Author Topic: MLB-Watching (2009) (Read 45918 times)

The Chief · « **Reply #250 on:** May 28, 2009, 07:24:45 pm »

Video of tirade?

PANatsFan · « **Reply #251 on:** May 28, 2009, 07:38:13 pm »

Quote from: PC on May 28, 2009, 07:21:46 pm

Zambrano was suspended for 6 games for his tirade earlier this week.

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/story/11796054

There should be special suspensions for starting pitchers. In this case, Zambrano misses one start. If a position player is suspended for 6 games, he misses 6 games! Starting pitchers should miss starts, not games. They should be suspended for the number of games a position player would be suspended for, in the same case, multiplied by 5.

It's 6 games' pay. I doubt throwing a baseball would get a position player 6 games.

ronnynat · « **Reply #252 on:** May 28, 2009, 08:25:39 pm »

Man, I really like Reimold. He just hit another homer.

hammondsnats · « **Reply #253 on:** May 28, 2009, 09:25:54 pm »

Quote from: ronnynat on May 28, 2009, 08:25:39 pm

Man, I really like Reimold. He just hit another homer.

stud.

tomterp · « **Reply #254 on:** May 28, 2009, 09:33:41 pm »

Quote from: PC on May 28, 2009, 07:21:46 pm

Zambrano was suspended for 6 games for his tirade earlier this week.

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/story/11796054

There should be special suspensions for starting pitchers. In this case, Zambrano misses one start. If a position player is suspended for 6 games, he misses 6 games! Starting pitchers should miss starts, not games. They should be suspended for the number of games a position player would be suspended for, in the same case, multiplied by 5.

Agreed.

A start to a pitcher is equivalent to 4 or 5 starts by a position player, in terms of importance to his team.

Suspensions against pitchers have to be longer, to make sure they have to miss a start, than do suspensions against position players, which can be for 3 games and still have some detrimental effect on the team.

So what's the effect of that? The pitcher misses out on 6/182 of his annual wage, while the position player misses 3/183, or only half the financial penalty. Therefore, the pitcher is getting screwed.

NatsAddict · « **Reply #255 on:** May 29, 2009, 08:39:17 am »

Quote from: PC on May 28, 2009, 07:21:46 pm

There should be special suspensions for starting pitchers. In this case, Zambrano misses one start. If a position player is suspended for 6 games, he misses 6 games! Starting pitchers should miss starts, not games. They should be suspended for the number of games a position player would be suspended for, in the same case, multiplied by 5.

The MLBPA would never approve. Zambrano would lose a huge portion of his salary under that scenario.

But the point is well taken. There have been some short suspensions for pitchers in which they've never missed a start.

HalfSmokes · « **Reply #256 on:** May 29, 2009, 08:44:55 am »

Quote from: NatsAddict on May 29, 2009, 08:39:17 am

The MLBPA would never approve. Zambrano would lose a huge portion of his salary under that scenario.

But the point is well taken. There have been some short suspensions for pitchers in which they've never missed a start.

It would be easier if they could just say, you're suspended for two days, however, you cannot pitch untill 10 days from now.

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #257 on:** May 29, 2009, 09:16:20 am »

Quote from: ronnynat on May 28, 2009, 08:25:39 pm

Man, I really like Reimold. He just hit another homer.

In 2007, we had a prospect draft for my AL-only roto keeper league. 2 picks. I got Ellsbury with my first, and then, with the last pick in the draft, I got Reimold. He should have been up a year or two ago if he did not get hurt (oblique) and miss most of 2007. The thing about him is he is a better on base guy than he's shown, can steal a little, and is athletic enough to be a good outfielder.

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #258 on:** May 29, 2009, 06:55:33 pm »

The Rockies fired Clint Hurdle. And he took them to a WS a few years ago.

what has Acta ever done for us?

NatsAddict · « **Reply #259 on:** May 29, 2009, 08:21:34 pm »

Quote from: sportsfan882 on May 29, 2009, 06:55:33 pm

The Rockies fired Clint Hurdle. And he took them to a WS a few years ago.

what has Acta ever done for us?

Took us to the whine cellar.

PatsNats28 · « **Reply #260 on:** May 29, 2009, 10:41:36 pm »

Quote from: sportsfan882 on May 29, 2009, 06:55:33 pm

The Rockies fired Clint Hurdle. And he took them to a WS a few years ago.

what has Acta ever done for us?

Acta NEEDS to go. Seriously.

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #261 on:** May 29, 2009, 10:54:12 pm »

42,704 in attendance for Wieters' debut in Baltimore.

wow, that's like twice what they normally would have drawn.

I bet we don't draw that much for SS's debut.

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #262 on:** May 31, 2009, 12:22:06 pm »

Quote from: sportsfan882 on May 29, 2009, 10:54:12 pm

42,704 in attendance for Wieters' debut in Baltimore.

wow, that's like twice what they normally would have drawn.

I bet we don't draw that much for SS's debut.

That may be a fairly safe bet because I don't think Nats Park's capacity is that big (but I might be wrong about the capacity).

I went up there last night. When Wieters was up, there a lot of positioning on the RF flag court in case he launched one there. Granderson could have caught his triple.

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #263 on:** May 31, 2009, 05:47:22 pm »

I'm so envious of the Texas Rangers and their fans. Why can't we do what they are doing?

DPMOmaha · « **Reply #264 on:** May 31, 2009, 09:50:21 pm »

They struggled for several years after those couple when they made the playoffs. Their pitching was a mess and have finally addressed it a bit. Fleecing the Reds for Hamilton didn't hurt either, but they've always been able to score. They were never as bad as we are right now, but the situations really aren't that dissimilar.

HalfSmokes · « **Reply #265 on:** May 31, 2009, 09:56:46 pm »

Quote from: DPMOmaha on May 31, 2009, 09:50:21 pm

They struggled for several years after those couple when they made the playoffs. Their pitching was a mess and have finally addressed it a bit. Fleecing the Reds for Hamilton didn't hurt either, but they've always been able to score. They were never as bad as we are right now, but the situations really aren't that dissimilar.

I can't wait for Smoak to debut, once again demonstrating the ineptness of our front office. He's currently hitting .325 with a .947 OPS

blue911 · « **Reply #266 on:** June 03, 2009, 06:20:00 pm »

Rangers placed Vincente Padilla on waivers

ronnynat · « **Reply #267 on:** June 03, 2009, 08:23:27 pm »

No-hitter through 5 for Beckett. He's dominating.

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #268 on:** June 03, 2009, 08:24:51 pm »

That last pitch was nasty.

Detroit is such and under-performing team.

ronnynat · « **Reply #269 on:** June 03, 2009, 08:39:54 pm »

I don't know how anyone hits his fastball when it's moving like that.

The Chief · « **Reply #270 on:** June 03, 2009, 08:49:30 pm »

Quote from: ronnynat on June 03, 2009, 08:39:54 pm

I don't know how anyone hits his fastball when it's moving like that.

Obviously they don't

ronnynat · « **Reply #271 on:** June 03, 2009, 08:57:13 pm »

Damn. Good try, though.

DPMOmaha · « **Reply #272 on:** June 03, 2009, 09:44:46 pm »

Mets/Pirates were washed out. That means we'll miss the Johan this weekend as the Mets shuffle their rotation.

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #273 on:** June 03, 2009, 09:53:47 pm »

Quote from: DPMOmaha on June 03, 2009, 09:44:46 pm

Mets/Pirates were washed out. That means we'll miss the Johan this weekend as the Mets shuffle their rotation.

we get to face the Vindicator instead

Obed_Marsh · « **Reply #274 on:** June 03, 2009, 11:58:49 pm »

Quote from: HalfSmokes on May 31, 2009, 09:56:46 pm

I can't wait for Smoak to debut, once again demonstrating the ineptness of our front office. He's currently hitting .325 with a .947 OPS

The FO has won. You are now rooting for failure.