Author Topic: MLB-Watching (2009) (Read 45765 times)

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #225 on:** May 27, 2009, 12:15:11 am »

sheet, the Padres are about to come back again.

they trailed 6-2 going into the 8th and now they have the bases loaded in the 9th and no outs down 6-4.

they are determined to not lose. going for their 11th victory in a row.

what guts and heart shown by that team.

edit: they lost 6-5. good run though

JMUalumni · « **Reply #226 on:** May 27, 2009, 11:17:51 am »

Wieters is making his MLB debut this Friday.

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #227 on:** May 27, 2009, 11:33:14 am »

Quote from: JMUalumni on May 27, 2009, 11:17:51 am

Wieters is making his MLB debut this Friday.

And hitting 8th. They can afford to trot out Cesar at SS everyday and not care if he gets a hit. When Scott comes back this week, their bench will be Wigginton, Pie, Zaun, and Andino. Plus you are starting to see the Bergesons, Hernandezes, Tillmans, etc... coming up. That team could have a nice June / July run before they trade vets.

hammondsnats · « **Reply #228 on:** May 27, 2009, 02:40:20 pm »

haha of course rich hill is getting pwned by the blue jays and we could barely do any damage against him.

The Chief · « **Reply #229 on:** May 27, 2009, 02:45:08 pm »

Quote from: hammondsnats on May 27, 2009, 02:40:20 pm

haha of course rich hill is getting pwned by the blue jays and we could barely do any damage against him.

What kind of comparison is that? The Blue Jays are WAY better than we are.

hammondsnats · « **Reply #230 on:** May 27, 2009, 03:00:29 pm »

Quote from: The Chief on May 27, 2009, 02:45:08 pm

What kind of comparison is that? The Blue Jays are WAY better than we are.

their offense isn't that much better. but still they scored 7 runs in less than 4 innings off him.

The Chief · « **Reply #231 on:** May 27, 2009, 03:02:50 pm »

Quote from: hammondsnats on May 27, 2009, 03:00:29 pm

their offense isn't that much better. but still they scored 7 runs in less than 4 innings off him.

I disagree. Look at who they've been playing, and look at who we've been playing. And they're still 20+ runs up on us.

I repeat - this is not a valid comparison. The Blue Jays are WAY better than we are.

You're also forgetting that they see the O's a lot more than we do.

hammondsnats · « **Reply #232 on:** May 27, 2009, 03:18:44 pm »

Quote from: The Chief on May 27, 2009, 03:02:50 pm

I disagree. Look at who they've been playing, and look at who we've been playing. And they're still 20+ runs up on us.

I repeat - this is not a valid comparison. The Blue Jays are WAY better than we are.

You're also forgetting that they see the O's a lot more than we do.

but the nats have seen rich hill as he's been an NL pitcher.

I'm not saying we're better than the Jays; we're not. It's a shame though we couldn't pile more than 2 runs against Hill in almost 6 innings of work.

The Chief · « **Reply #233 on:** May 27, 2009, 03:19:11 pm »

Quote from: hammondsnats on May 27, 2009, 03:18:44 pm

but the nats have seen rich hill as he's been an NL pitcher.

I'm not saying we're better than the Jays; we're not. It's a shame though we couldn't pile more than 2 runs against Hill in almost 6 innings of work.

It's Nieves' fault

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #234 on:** May 27, 2009, 05:08:43 pm »

The Blue Jays are awful. They had lost like 7 in a row prior to this game. Don't pay any attention to their fluke start to the season.

They will finish 3rd or 4th in the division behind Boston and New York (and maybe TB).

The Chief · « **Reply #235 on:** May 28, 2009, 12:42:59 pm »

NEWS FLASH

We are the worst team in baseball by a wide margin. Just because any other team hangs some runs on Hill doesn't mean we should be able to. There's a reason we're so bad.

What are you all dense?

HalfSmokes · « **Reply #236 on:** May 28, 2009, 12:45:12 pm »

Quote from: The Chief on May 28, 2009, 12:42:59 pm

NEWS FLASH

We are the worst team in baseball by a wide margin. Just because any other team hangs some runs on Hill doesn't mean we should be able to. There's a reason we're so bad.

What are you all dense?

we have a decent offense, we should be able to hang runs on him. the problem is they should be able to hang more runs on us

The Chief · « **Reply #237 on:** May 28, 2009, 12:46:57 pm »

Quote from: HalfSmokes on May 28, 2009, 12:45:12 pm

we have a decent offense, we should be able to hang runs on him. the problem is they should be able to hang more runs on us

Our offense has lost it's potency in recent weeks and everyone knows it. Whether it be missing pieces or just a slump, it doesn't really matter - comparing this team to any other team in baseball and saying "we should be able to do it because they did it!" is just plain stupid.

HalfSmokes · « **Reply #238 on:** May 28, 2009, 01:43:09 pm »

Quote from: The Chief on May 28, 2009, 12:46:57 pm

Our offense has lost it's potency in recent weeks and everyone knows it. Whether it be missing pieces or just a slump, it doesn't really matter - comparing this team to any other team in baseball and saying "we should be able to do it because they did it!" is just plain stupid.

well, we're fifth in the NL in runs per game, so saying that we can score runs on a pitcher because another team can seems reasonable to me

http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/NL/2009-standard-batting.shtml

The Chief · « **Reply #239 on:** May 28, 2009, 02:00:36 pm »

Try re-reading my post and think about that for a second.

HalfSmokes · « **Reply #240 on:** May 28, 2009, 02:02:53 pm »

Quote from: The Chief on May 28, 2009, 12:42:59 pm

Just because any other team hangs some runs on Hill doesn't mean we should be able to. There's a reason we're so bad.

That tends to imply a bad offense

The Chief · « **Reply #241 on:** May 28, 2009, 02:06:34 pm »

Alright, I'll spell it out for you as if you're 5:

Nationals != Blue Jays.

Performance in baseball is not formulaic.

HalfSmokes · « **Reply #242 on:** May 28, 2009, 02:12:14 pm »

Quote from: The Chief on May 28, 2009, 02:06:34 pm

Nationals != Blue Jays.

they're 10th in runs per game we're 14th, I apoligize for ignoring that massive difference

The Chief · « **Reply #243 on:** May 28, 2009, 02:28:56 pm »

Quote from: HalfSmokes on May 28, 2009, 02:12:14 pm

they're 10th in runs per game we're 14th, I apoligize for ignoring that massive difference

THE BLUE JAYS ARE A DIFFERENT SET OF HUMAN BEINGS THAN THE NATIONALS.

Are you freaking dense?

Your argument is fallacious in the extreme.

HalfSmokes · « **Reply #244 on:** May 28, 2009, 02:31:35 pm »

Quote from: The Chief on May 28, 2009, 02:28:56 pm

THE BLUE JAYS ARE A DIFFERENT SET OF HUMAN BEINGS THAN THE NATIONALS.

Are you freaking dense?

Your argument is fallacious in the extreme.

you're right numbers mean nothing in baseball baseball; runs per game don't indicate how an offense is performing or likely to perform.

blue911 · « **Reply #245 on:** May 28, 2009, 02:34:03 pm »

Quote from: The Chief on May 28, 2009, 02:28:56 pm

THE BLUE JAYS ARE A DIFFERENT SET OF HUMAN BEINGS THAN THE NATIONALS.

Are you freaking dense?

Your argument is fallacious in the extreme.

They're the same players. They just wear different uniforms. At least on XBox

The Chief · « **Reply #246 on:** May 28, 2009, 02:37:57 pm »

Quote from: HalfSmokes on May 28, 2009, 02:31:35 pm

you're right numbers mean nothing in baseball baseball; runs per game don't indicate how an offense is performing or likely to perform.

The funny thing is that even though you think you're being cute, what you said is both in agreement with what i'm saying, and is also exactly right. Averages are just that. An average of differing individual performances.

HalfSmokes · « **Reply #247 on:** May 28, 2009, 02:45:13 pm »

Quote from: The Chief on May 28, 2009, 02:37:57 pm

The funny thing is that even though you think you're being cute, what you said is both in agreement with what i'm saying, and is also exactly right. Averages are just that. An average of differing individual performances.

and in baseball they're are enough data points that they are predictive. You said that just because the blue jays lit up hill doesn't mean we can. I would say there is enough data for this year to say that we have comprable offenses, so the fact that they lit him up means we may be able to as well.

blue911 · « **Reply #248 on:** May 28, 2009, 02:49:51 pm »

Quote from: HalfSmokes on May 28, 2009, 02:45:13 pm

and in baseball they're are enough data points that they are predictive. You said that just because the blue jays lit up hill doesn't mean we can. I would say there is enough data for this year to say that we have comprable offenses, so the fact that they lit him up means we may be able to as well.

Except that the Blue jays play in a league that has a lot more breaking ball pitchers. The Nationals consistently look terrible against off-speed/breaking ball pitchers.

PC · « **Reply #249 on:** May 28, 2009, 07:21:46 pm »

Zambrano was suspended for 6 games for his tirade earlier this week.

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/story/11796054

There should be special suspensions for starting pitchers. In this case, Zambrano misses one start. If a position player is suspended for 6 games, he misses 6 games! Starting pitchers should miss starts, not games. They should be suspended for the number of games a position player would be suspended for, in the same case, multiplied by 5.