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Offline houston-nat

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Re: 2009 MLB-Watching
« Reply #200 on: May 21, 2009, 06:05:16 pm »
he's better than Rizzo as a GM  8)
Dude, Jim Bowden thinks our future top prospect's name is "Steven Strasberg." Anybody is better than somebody who can't spell the #1 pick's name.

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Re: 2009 MLB-Watching
« Reply #201 on: May 21, 2009, 06:05:38 pm »
he's better than Rizzo as a GM  8)

The sad thing is that you actually believe that.

Offline sportsfan882

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« Reply #202 on: May 21, 2009, 06:16:57 pm »
The sad thing is that you actually believe that.
damn right. Bowden has done a lot of good things for this organization.

Rizzo has done okay with the draft but I'd prefer he stick to that area. We need a real GM.

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« Reply #203 on: May 21, 2009, 07:14:05 pm »
Peavy blocked the trade and rightfully so.

Offline JMW IV

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« Reply #204 on: May 23, 2009, 01:22:45 pm »
bowden has always been an embarassing joke as our gm, and everyone knows it, except sportsfan.

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« Reply #205 on: May 24, 2009, 10:28:07 am »
Peavy blocked the trade and rightfully so.

"Rightfully so" from the sense that he has the right to do so. 

I find it interesting that even Peavy himself hasn't closed the door to coming to the White Sox.  The deal is still on the table, pending a change of mind. 

The White Sox are not a very good team right now.  But they are not that far away from being a very competitive team.  Peavy acknowledged that himself. If he wants to play for a sure a sure-fire shot at a World Series this year, well, that's a crap shoot.  If he wants to stay in the NL, well, that's his preference.  If he wants to stay in San Diego, then he should tell the front office to stop negotiating trades. 

Peavy is effectively closing the door to a trade, at least for this year.  Maybe that's what he wants.  He has the contractually guaranteed power to do that.

Here in Chicago, the talk shows have debated whether adding Peavy makes the White Sox a contender, and the general consensus is -- no.  Its not enough.  But considering his long term contract status and that the other pieces the Sox need to contend are potentially in the minors or able to be gotten through the market via Kenny Williams' wild and wooly ways, Peavy would help the Sox be set. 

Because of the nature of the AL Central, and the basic framework of the team, I think the deal would have worked well for everyone involved.  Then again, I'm a dyed in the wool White Sox fan.  So I don't look at this objectively.  But the Sox have developed a great organization.  It could be a blessing in disguise.  Several of the minor-league players rumored to have been part of he deal -- Poreda, Jordan Danks -- are flourishing.  We may be better off to keep them.  But generally, Kenny Williams has succeeded when he's dealt prospects for established talent.  Its generally a safe bet. 

Offline sportsfan882

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Re: 2009 MLB-Watching
« Reply #206 on: May 24, 2009, 07:02:37 pm »
The Padres have won 9 games in a row.  :shock:  :?

Offline PC

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Re: 2009 MLB-Watching
« Reply #207 on: May 24, 2009, 08:20:22 pm »
I think Joe Mauer is juicing!

Offline sportsfan882

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Re: 2009 MLB-Watching
« Reply #208 on: May 24, 2009, 08:20:24 pm »
10 HRs in 78 ABs for Mauer... wtf

Offline ronnynat

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Re: 2009 MLB-Watching
« Reply #209 on: May 24, 2009, 08:31:10 pm »
I think Joe Mauer is juicing!

Haha. This is actually exactly what some people said was going to happen a few years ago. Makes sense.

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Re: 2009 MLB-Watching
« Reply #210 on: May 24, 2009, 08:33:45 pm »
darn right. Bowden has done a lot of good things for this organization.

Rizzo has done okay with the draft but I'd prefer he stick to that area. We need a real GM.


yea retreads are great, why should we give another guy a shot. Its not like most recent world series have been won by guys who were hired with no prior gm experience- oh wait

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« Reply #211 on: May 24, 2009, 08:34:57 pm »
10 HRs in 78 ABs? I don't believe it. He only hit 9 HRs last year in 536 ABs.

He is slugging .885. :?

Offline sportsfan882

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« Reply #212 on: May 24, 2009, 08:36:24 pm »

yea retreads are great, why should we give another guy a shot. Its not like most recent world series have been won by guys who were hired with no prior gm experience- oh wait
what has Rizzo shown that has proven that he is a capable GM?

I agree that going with a fresh hire is a good idea but I don't know if Rizzo is the man for the job. Obviously Kasten/Lerners feel the same way because they haven't given him the job yet.

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Re: 2009 MLB-Watching
« Reply #213 on: May 24, 2009, 08:40:38 pm »
10 HRs in 78 ABs? I don't believe it. He only hit 9 HRs last year in 536 ABs.

He is slugging .885. :?

He hasn't gained power, though. He just adjusted his swing. It's not unheard of. Especially when you're talking about a hitter with such a great eye.

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Re: 2009 MLB-Watching
« Reply #214 on: May 24, 2009, 08:43:21 pm »
what has Rizzo shown that has proven that he is a capable GM?

I agree that going with a fresh hire is a good idea but I don't know if Rizzo is the man for the job. Obviously Kasten/Lerners feel the same way because they haven't given him the job yet.

what has any non gm does as a gm? By definition, no fresh hire will have accomplishments as a gm

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« Reply #215 on: May 24, 2009, 08:49:25 pm »
what has any non gm does as a gm? By definition, no fresh hire will have accomplishments as a gm
still, what makes you think Rizzo is the guy?

I think he is a good Scouting director but I don't know if he is fit for GM.

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« Reply #216 on: May 24, 2009, 08:52:18 pm »
still, what makes you think Rizzo is the guy?

I think he is a good Scouting director but I don't know if he is fit for GM.

because what we need now is a guy with an eye towards scouting, our team will obviously be built through the farm.  who would you prefer, and what have they 'proven'?

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Re: 2009 MLB-Watching
« Reply #217 on: May 24, 2009, 10:26:03 pm »
I think Justin Morneau is juicing too! :lol:

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« Reply #218 on: May 25, 2009, 05:15:10 pm »
Joe Mauer came in off the bench in the bottom of the 9th and hit a HR off of Papelbon today. :?

He's now got 11 HRs and a .444 BA in 81 ABs. He's slugging .914.

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Re: 2009 MLB-Watching
« Reply #219 on: May 25, 2009, 05:18:26 pm »
Joe Mauer came in off the bench in the bottom of the 9th and hit a HR off of Papelbon today. :?

He's now got 11 HRs and a .444 BA in 81 ABs. He's slugging .914.

Shouldn't this be in the juicers thread?

Offline sportsfan882

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« Reply #220 on: May 25, 2009, 05:20:39 pm »
Shouldn't this be in the juicers thread?
:clap: :clap:

Offline sportsfan882

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Re: 2009 MLB-Watching
« Reply #221 on: May 25, 2009, 06:40:53 pm »
The Padres have far less talent than the Nationals but they have players and coaches who know how to win. It's that simple. They do what it takes to win despite having less talent that most teams in baseball.

9 wins in a row and they just came back from a 7-1 deficit against Arizona to tie it in the 9th.

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« Reply #222 on: May 25, 2009, 09:59:46 pm »
The Padres have far less talent than the Nationals but they have players and coaches who know how to win. It's that simple. They do what it takes to win despite having less talent that most teams in baseball.

9 wins in a row and they just came back from a 7-1 deficit against Arizona to tie it in the 9th.

they have a better bullpen, a legitimate ace, and one of the best hitting first basemen in baseball.

we have a slugging outfielder and a great third baseman, but a joke of a bullpen and no ace

Offline KnorrForYourMoney

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Re: 2009 MLB-Watching
« Reply #223 on: May 25, 2009, 10:37:09 pm »

yea retreads are great, why should we give another guy a shot. Its not like most recent world series have been won by guys who were hired with no prior gm experience- oh wait
Pat Gillick was a "retread."

Offline sportsfan882

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« Reply #224 on: May 25, 2009, 10:40:01 pm »
they have a better bullpen, a legitimate ace, and one of the best hitting first basemen in baseball.

we have a slugging outfielder and a great third baseman, but a joke of a bullpen and no ace
But if you look at both teams' rosters we have the better team. We just don't understand how to win and we have a bullcrap manager/GM.

Padres have two good starters (Young and Peavy) and a horrid lineup other than Adrian Gonzalez.