Author Topic: Following the Minor League Teams (2009) (Read 191553 times)

hammondsnats · « **Reply #450 on:** April 23, 2009, 08:15:08 pm »

so it sounds like mcgeary had a really rough inning?

JMUalumni · « **Reply #451 on:** April 23, 2009, 08:15:31 pm »

Ah darnit, McGeary hadn't faced more than 5 batters until this inning. Then he let up two singles. On the next batter he got ahead in the count, but then threw three balls. He had a full count and threw a breaking ball for a strike (according to Hagerstown announcer), but the ump called ball to load the bases. The next batter hit a three RBI single, and while the announcer wasn't clear, it sounded like some shoddy defense lacking in fundamentals. Now the Suns are down, 0-3.

The only thing McGeary did wrong, was walk the batter. Every batter that has gotten a hit off of him, has done so through the infield defense.

hammondsnats · « **Reply #452 on:** April 23, 2009, 08:19:04 pm »

sounds like some tough luck for our top pitching prospects today. actually sounds like the defense behind them is the reason we're down in both games.

JMUalumni · « **Reply #453 on:** April 23, 2009, 08:19:53 pm »

Quote from: hammondsnats on April 23, 2009, 08:08:21 pm

trust me ... he was really good today. the announcer keeps talking about how money he was and two errors today - one by his catcher and one by the second baseman - prolonged two innings (and increasing his pitch count) w/ the martinez error resulting in two runs whereas his line should be 5 innings, 5 hits and just 1 er. it was a good start for him tonight.

Any idea what his pitch count was at. It concerns me that he hasn't made it past the fifth inning yet this year.

Quote from: hammondsnats on April 23, 2009, 08:19:04 pm

sounds like some tough luck for our top pitching prospects today. actually sounds like the defense behind them is the reason we're down in both games.

Yep, a lack of middle infield defense is killing this organization from top to bottom.

NFA Brian · « **Reply #454 on:** April 23, 2009, 08:21:54 pm »

I have heard from folks around the teams that the defense has been poor and the cold weather playing havoc with the offense getting on track

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #455 on:** April 23, 2009, 08:23:23 pm »

Quote from: hammondsnats on April 23, 2009, 08:13:04 pm

mcgeary dagger

why the hell do all our pitchers in our system always fall apart in the middle innings?

PANatsFan · « **Reply #456 on:** April 23, 2009, 08:23:24 pm »

Quote from: NFA Brian on April 23, 2009, 07:50:03 pm

Sore left hamate bone (wrist). Same injury he had in the spring.

Damn - I was thinking he'd need surgery.

JMUalumni · « **Reply #457 on:** April 23, 2009, 08:24:19 pm »

Quote from: NFA Brian on April 23, 2009, 08:21:54 pm

I have heard from folks around the teams that the defense has been poor and the cold weather playing havoc with the offense getting on track

I have to think that they are going to address the middle infield positions this year in the draft in the top 10 rounds. With Desmond's injury and the fallout related to Alvarez, we are basically losing (maybe not for Desmond) two of our top prospects for 2B/SS. Drafting Espinosa was a good start, but it seems like they need to continue going after guys like that this year as well.

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #458 on:** April 23, 2009, 08:26:10 pm »

At least Potomac is raking tonight. 7 runs through 3 innings.

Rooney is 2/2 with a HR and 3 RBIs.

Burgess is 1/1 with a Single, 2 RBIs, and a walk.

Marrerro is 1/1 with a Single, Run, and a walk.

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #459 on:** April 23, 2009, 08:26:52 pm »

Quote from: JMUalumni on April 23, 2009, 08:24:19 pm

I have to think that they are going to address the middle infield positions this year in the draft in the top 10 rounds. With Desmond's injury and the fallout related to Alvarez, we are basically losing (maybe not for Desmond) two of our top prospects for 2B/SS. Drafting Espinosa was a good start, but it seems like they need to continue going after guys like that this year as well.

I was so sad when the Sox took Gordon Beckham one pick ahead of us last year. we could have had him instead of Crow

JMUalumni · « **Reply #460 on:** April 23, 2009, 08:26:58 pm »

McGeary is slowly losing control of the game.

He is done, still responsible for one more runner. He didn't get help from the Ump or from his defense. Just one extra base hit that got stuck in the corner. Mostly rotten luck, but still the fault has to be placed on his shoulders. He didn't have his best stuff with him today, that is for sure.

5.0 IP, 5 ER, 6 H, 2 BB, 2 SO

10 groundouts, 1 flyout

JMUalumni · « **Reply #461 on:** April 23, 2009, 08:35:00 pm »

Quote from: sportsfan882 on April 23, 2009, 08:26:10 pm

At least Potomac is raking tonight. 7 runs through 3 innings.

Rooney is 2/2 with a HR and 3 RBIs.

Burgess is 1/1 with a Single, 2 RBIs, and a walk.

Marrerro is 1/1 with a Single, Run, and a walk.

Jewett finally used some sense and placed Plasencia at the leadoff spot. Now if he would only take King out of the 3 hole and stops calling crazy double steals, the line up might actually be effective on a nightly basis.

hammondsnats · « **Reply #462 on:** April 23, 2009, 08:37:46 pm »

Quote from: sportsfan882 on April 23, 2009, 08:23:23 pm

why the hell do all our pitchers in our system always fall apart in the middle innings?

as i said detwiler was fine tonight, i'm happy with his start. it sucks mcgeary fell apart later on in the game. i still have faith in both of them.

Quote from: JMUalumni on April 23, 2009, 08:19:53 pm

Any idea what his pitch count was at. It concerns me that he hasn't made it past the fifth inning yet this year.

not sure. he was throwing a lot of strikes, faced 22 batters (3 or 4 i believe extra b/c of the errors), walked just two. i'm sure he would've gone 5+ or 6 tonight if it weren't for martinez.

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #463 on:** April 23, 2009, 08:38:52 pm »

Quote from: hammondsnats on April 23, 2009, 08:37:46 pm

as i said detwiler was fine tonight, i'm happy with his start. it sucks mcgeary fell apart later on in the game. i still have faith in both of them.
not sure. he was throwing a lot of strikes, faced 22 batters (3 or 4 i believe extra b/c of the errors), walked just two. i'm sure he would've gone 5+ or 6 tonight if it weren't for martinez.

still not good enough from Detwiler. he was a 6th overall pick. he should be dominating by this point.

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #464 on:** April 23, 2009, 08:39:17 pm »

Quote from: JMUalumni on April 23, 2009, 08:35:00 pm

Jewett finally used some sense and placed Plasencia at the leadoff spot. Now if he would only take King out of the 3 hole and stops calling crazy double steals, the line up might actually be effective on a nightly basis.

looks like their crappy infield defense screwed Mandel in the early innings.

JMUalumni · « **Reply #465 on:** April 23, 2009, 08:42:02 pm »

Quote from: sportsfan882 on April 23, 2009, 08:39:17 pm

looks like their crappy infield defense screwed Mandel in the early innings.

Yeah, this is becoming a sickening trend. It is no wonder we have a scrub like Cintron playing on the major league team.

hammondsnats · « **Reply #466 on:** April 23, 2009, 08:42:52 pm »

Quote from: sportsfan882 on April 23, 2009, 08:38:52 pm

still not good enough from Detwiler. he was a 6th overall pick. he should be dominating by this point.

do you read? trust me man he pitched fine tonight. he would've have 5 innings w/ 1 earned run given up if martinez didn't botch a double play (for the 90th time). and he probably would've been sent out for the 6th. the announcer commented on how solid det was and i'm sure john stearns will say the same thing. you can't tell how a pitcher does from just looking at a box score.

hammondsnats · « **Reply #467 on:** April 23, 2009, 08:44:03 pm »

the lack of middle infielders is on jim bowden. he fell in love with toolsy outfielders and we don't have any middle infielders other than espinosa/desmond/the prospect formerly known as smiley who won't ever amount to anything.

JMUalumni · « **Reply #468 on:** April 23, 2009, 08:44:48 pm »

Burgess just cranked a 3 run shot. Now 2-2 for the night, with 5 RBIs and a walk.

Plasencia scored all three times he has been on base (one hit, two reached on errors), keep him at leadoff!

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #469 on:** April 23, 2009, 08:45:52 pm »

Quote from: hammondsnats on April 23, 2009, 08:42:52 pm

do you read? trust me man he pitched fine tonight. he would've have 5 innings w/ 1 earned run given up if martinez didn't botch a double play (for the 90th time). and he probably would've been sent out for the 6th. the announcer commented on how solid det was and i'm sure john stearns will say the same thing. you can't tell how a pitcher does from just looking at a box score.

okay but in the grand scheme he has still been very disappointing thus far. when you draft a college guy with the 6th overall pick you expect him to advance through your system quickly and pitch well at every level. Ross hasn't been terrible but he's been just kind of mediocre, both last year and so far this year. 4.50~ ERA

hammondsnats · « **Reply #470 on:** April 23, 2009, 08:46:15 pm »

Quote from: JMUalumni on April 23, 2009, 08:44:48 pm

Burgess just cranked a 3 run shot. Now 2-2 for the night, with 5 RBIs and a walk.

Plasencia scored all three times he has been on base (one hit, two reached on errors), keep him at leadoff!

hammondsnats · « **Reply #471 on:** April 23, 2009, 08:47:18 pm »

Quote from: sportsfan882 on April 23, 2009, 08:45:52 pm

okay but in the grand scheme he has still been very disappointing thus far. when you draft a college guy with the 6th overall pick you expect him to advance through your system quickly and pitch well at every level. Ross hasn't been terrible but he's been just kind of mediocre, both last year and so far this year. 4.50~ ERA

no crap. but tonight was a good start for the young man, that's all i've been trying to say. hopefully he can build on this one and continue to get better.

not everyone is gonna move up thru the system like john lannan/jordan zimmermann.

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #472 on:** April 23, 2009, 08:47:38 pm »

Quote from: JMUalumni on April 23, 2009, 08:44:48 pm

Burgess just cranked a 3 run shot. Now 2-2 for the night, with 5 RBIs and a walk.

Plasencia scored all three times he has been on base (one hit, two reached on errors), keep him at leadoff!

wow. So Burgess has 4 HRs in 54 ABs this year which is really good but his BA (.167) stinks. sounds like the same old from him. it'd be nice if he could even just hit like .260 or so.

JMUalumni · « **Reply #473 on:** April 23, 2009, 08:47:58 pm »

Quote from: hammondsnats on April 23, 2009, 08:44:03 pm

the lack of middle infielders is on jim bowden. he fell in love with toolsy outfielders and we don't have any middle infielders other than espinosa/desmond/the prospect formerly known as smiley who won't ever amount to anything.

Sure, put it on Bowden, but it doesn't change anything. I have noticed that many/most middle infielders in the MLB are from the Latin America countries. It would be good if the Nats could resurrect their scouting down there and actually sign some young middle infield talent, but I am not going to hold my breath. A good AFA signing down there or two would make me pretty happy.

hammondsnats · « **Reply #474 on:** April 23, 2009, 08:48:08 pm »

Quote from: sportsfan882 on April 23, 2009, 08:47:38 pm

wow. So Burgess has 4 HRs in 54 ABs this year which is really good but his BA (.167) stinks. sounds like the same old from him. it'd be nice if he could even just hit like .260 or so.

it's ryan howard.