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Offline sportsfan882

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Re: Plan "B"
« Reply #2775 on: January 30, 2009, 06:43:02 pm »
Quote from: tomterp on January 30, 2009, 06:41:55 pm
Boz pointed out today that his career is very closely parallel to Reggie Jackson, and Harmon Killebrew, and that 5 more years of this 40/100 business and he's looking at the HOF.
not a chance in hell will Adam Dunn ever be in the hall of fame.
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Offline sportsfan882

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Re: Plan "B"
« Reply #2776 on: January 30, 2009, 06:44:05 pm »
Quote from: hammondsnats on January 30, 2009, 06:40:16 pm
Haha dude i'm sorry i have to call you out on this one.  First dunn was a second-tier, now he's a third-tier?  Just like that?  And I gotta agree with Boz, I think because of how long this has dragged on, the more likely his price has dropped. 

I said give him a three-year deal, I still think it's a wise move.  I would be flat out shocked if he got more than three years (in fact, he may only get a two-year deal).
3 years would be a disaster. 2 would be manageable but would still suck. 1 year would be okay.

Second-tier, third-tier. Same thing. He's not even close to being a first-tier talent.

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Offline hammondsnats

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Re: Plan "B"
« Reply #2777 on: January 30, 2009, 06:53:06 pm »
MrMadison, I know what you're saying. 

Honestly, I don't care how much the team spends and really what they spend it on (but I see it as a way to get better in some cases), as long as we win or at least show tremendous progress.  That's what any fan should want.  Last year we didn't win and didn't show much progress.  Not at all.  And we're looking for a piece to really boost this line-up, that we just don't have. 

I don't know how magically we can all of a sudden be that much better next season.  I've stated I think we'll be a little better, b/c we had bad luck with injuries and relied on a lot of AAAA and young guys.  But we're still going to be relying on young guys, this is their time to shine, and a lot of players who have proven to be injury-prone.  (thank god not as many AAAA players) 

With the team we have in place now and I'm thinking (ballpark) we'll be (at worst) 66-95, (at best)72-89, so possibly 69-92. 
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Offline hammondsnats

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Re: Plan "B"
« Reply #2778 on: January 30, 2009, 06:54:19 pm »
Quote from: sportsfan882 on January 30, 2009, 06:44:05 pm
3 years would be a disaster. 2 would be manageable but would still suck. 1 year would be okay.

Again it's a matter of your opinion vs. others.  You can't bash others for having an opinion.  YOU think it's stupid.  SOME AGREE, OTHERS DON'T. 
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Offline spidernat

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Re: Plan "B"
« Reply #2779 on: January 30, 2009, 10:16:59 pm »
Quote from: sportsfan882 on January 30, 2009, 06:43:02 pm
not a chance in hell will Adam Dunn ever be in the hall of fame.

The hate dripping from sportsfan regarding Dunn is funny and puzzling at the same time.    :icon_mrgreen:
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Offline PatsNats28

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Re: Plan "B"
« Reply #2780 on: January 31, 2009, 12:09:16 am »
The almighty Bill Simmons thinks we should go for Manny.

"See, another team that should sign him - the Nats. People in DC do not care about that team. At all. Manny doesn't make them more interesting????? They're willing to give Tex 170 million - a guy who has played on bad teams for nearly his entire career - but Manny isn't worth $75m for three? He wouldn't sell tickets? He wouldn't hit?"

Not exactly right, but I still love his columns and that's the first time I've seen him mention the Nats.
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Offline blue911

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Re: Plan "B"
« Reply #2781 on: January 31, 2009, 07:11:51 am »
Quote from: SoxNats08 on January 31, 2009, 12:09:16 am
The almighty Bill Simmons thinks we should go for Manny.

"See, another team that should sign him - the Nats. People in DC do not care about that team. At all. Manny doesn't make them more interesting????? They're willing to give Tex 170 million - a guy who has played on bad teams for nearly his entire career - but Manny isn't worth $75m for three? He wouldn't sell tickets? He wouldn't hit?"

Not exactly right, but I still love his columns and that's the first time I've seen him mention the Nats.

Isn't Bill Simmons that homosexual that runs around telling you to lose weight?
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Offline DCFan

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Re: Plan "B"
« Reply #2782 on: January 31, 2009, 07:18:38 am »
Quote from: blue911 on January 31, 2009, 07:11:51 am
Isn't Bill Simmons that homosexual that runs around telling you to lose weight?

No, that's a different homosexual.  :icon_mrgreen:
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Offline Nat of the Living Dead

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Re: Plan "B"
« Reply #2783 on: January 31, 2009, 07:58:29 am »
Quote from: SoxNats08 on January 31, 2009, 12:09:16 am
The almighty Bill Simmons thinks we should go for Manny.

"See, another team that should sign him - the Nats. People in DC do not care about that team. At all. Manny doesn't make them more interesting????? They're willing to give Tex 170 million - a guy who has played on bad teams for nearly his entire career - but Manny isn't worth $75m for three? He wouldn't sell tickets? He wouldn't hit?"

Not exactly right, but I still love his columns and that's the first time I've seen him mention the Nats.

That's funny because no one in DC cares about Bill Simmons. At all.

Small world.
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Offline PANatsFan

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Re: Plan "B"
« Reply #2784 on: January 31, 2009, 09:08:02 am »
*singsong* Blue forgot to hyphenate */singsong*
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Offline PANatsFan

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Re: Plan "B"
« Reply #2785 on: January 31, 2009, 09:08:47 am »
Quote from: spidernat on January 30, 2009, 10:16:59 pm
The hate dripping from sportsfan regarding Dunn is funny and puzzling at the same time.    :icon_mrgreen:

I think Adam Dunn snuck into his sportsfans house, stole all his trick coins, and then ate his baseball cards.
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Offline spidernat

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Re: Plan "B"
« Reply #2786 on: January 31, 2009, 09:46:29 am »
Quote from: PANatsFan on January 31, 2009, 09:08:02 am
*singsong* Blue forgot to hyphenate */singsong*

Can anything be said without you being offended PA-Nats-Fan?
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Offline blue911

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Re: Plan "B"
« Reply #2787 on: January 31, 2009, 09:50:04 am »
Quote from: spidernat on January 31, 2009, 09:46:29 am
Can any be said without you being offended PA-Nats-Fan?

Really, it's not like I called him a cock sucker. Now that would be offensive.
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Offline spidernat

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Re: Plan "B"
« Reply #2788 on: January 31, 2009, 09:52:21 am »
Quote from: blue911 on January 31, 2009, 09:50:04 am
Really, it's not like I called him a cock sucker. Now that would be offensive.


Perfectly legal since it was not a compound word. 
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Offline PANatsFan

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Re: Plan "B"
« Reply #2789 on: January 31, 2009, 10:05:46 am »
Quote from: blue911 on January 31, 2009, 09:50:04 am
Really, it's not like I called him a cock sucker. Now that would be offensive.

Yeah, we'll it's a good thing we can't see spidernat's face, I hear that's offensive (he shoots, he SCORES!)
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Offline spidernat

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Re: Plan "B"
« Reply #2790 on: January 31, 2009, 12:10:49 pm »
Quote from: PANatsFan on January 31, 2009, 10:05:46 am
Yeah, we'll it's a good thing we can't see spidernat's face, I hear that's offensive (he shoots, he SCORES!)

I have a unibrow so that serves as the hyphen.


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Offline wpa2629

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Re: Plan "B"
« Reply #2791 on: January 31, 2009, 12:17:41 pm »
Quote from: spidernat on January 31, 2009, 12:10:49 pm
I have a unibrow so that serves as the hyphen.




lol
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Offline PANatsFan

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Re: Plan "B"
« Reply #2792 on: January 31, 2009, 02:26:35 pm »
Quote from: spidernat on January 31, 2009, 12:10:49 pm
I have a unibrow so that serves as the hyphen.




:clap:
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Offline UMDNats

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Re: Plan "B"
« Reply #2793 on: January 31, 2009, 04:47:11 pm »
Quote from: Nat of the LivingDead on January 31, 2009, 07:58:29 am
That's funny because no one in DC cares about Bill Simmons. At all.

Small world.

I do. He's funny as hell. I don't read him for his serious thoughts,  but rather for his humor.

And he has a completely correct point about Manny. Manny would sell tickets. Would it help the team in the long run? No, but it would sell tickets.
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Offline DCFan

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Re: Plan "B"
« Reply #2794 on: January 31, 2009, 04:52:28 pm »
Quote from: UMDNats on January 31, 2009, 04:47:11 pm
And he has a completely correct point about Manny. Manny would sell tickets. Would it help the team in the long run? No, but it would sell tickets.

Which we'll need this year to balance out the Phillies and Mets hordes that will overrun our park.
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Offline Nat of the Living Dead

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Re: Plan "B"
« Reply #2795 on: January 31, 2009, 05:14:05 pm »
Quote from: UMDNats on January 31, 2009, 04:47:11 pm
Manny would sell tickets. Would it help the team in the long run? No, but it would sell tickets.

Big deal. No fan really cares about how many tickets actually sell until they need a talking point.
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Offline spidernat

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Re: Plan "B"
« Reply #2796 on: January 31, 2009, 05:20:08 pm »
But if tickets don't sell, the owners can claim they don't have money to spend to improve the squad.
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Offline sportsfan882

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Re: Plan "B"
« Reply #2797 on: January 31, 2009, 05:22:35 pm »
Quote from: spidernat on January 31, 2009, 05:20:08 pm
But if tickets don't sell, the owners can claim they don't have money to spend to improve the squad.
That's irrelevant. They have plenty of money regardless of how the attendance goes.
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Offline Nat of the Living Dead

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Re: Plan "B"
« Reply #2798 on: January 31, 2009, 05:24:41 pm »
Quote from: spidernat on January 31, 2009, 05:20:08 pm
But if tickets don't sell, the owners can claim they don't have money to spend to improve the squad.

Well, that should make you happy shouldn't it? You'd never run out of talking points! :lol:
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Offline UMDNats

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Re: Plan "B"
« Reply #2799 on: January 31, 2009, 05:24:48 pm »
Quote from: Nat of the LivingDead on January 31, 2009, 05:14:05 pm
Big deal. No fan really cares about how many tickets actually sell until they need a talking point.

I agree, I'm just saying, your need  to hate on Simmons doesn't really make any sense, considering his argument (it would sell tickets) is true..
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