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Offline sportsfan882

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Re: Plan "B"
« Reply #125 on: December 23, 2008, 06:02:44 pm »
Quote from: hammondsnats on December 23, 2008, 05:59:04 pm
If we traded Milledge I'd give up on the Nats.  We contsantly give Kearns chances when he has proved he does not deserve a starting spot.  And we'd give up one of our best young players, who put up the best numbers even after missing a month and playing CF for the first time in his career.

I really need to take some time to think and collect my thoughts before my next post.  I knew this day was coming, but from what is being reported in some blogs/media sources that we may not spend any of that "Teix money" in other areas to go along with the realization that we are going to have another 90-loss season ... ahhhh my head is going to explode. 

Oh and Chris, I'm off to Modells and I was going to get you a Teix Nats jersey, but seeing how we didn't sign him, I guess I don't have to worry about a present for you.  Unless you want a Nats 2008 AAAA card collection set (featuring your favorite Nats: Langerhans, Speigner, Orr, and more!)
Damn.. I remember the days when Hammondsnats was one of the most optimistic posters on here. These are sad times in NatsLand.  :'(
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Offline spidernat

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Re: Plan "B"
« Reply #126 on: December 23, 2008, 06:02:58 pm »
Quote from: hammondsnats on December 23, 2008, 05:59:04 pm

Oh and Chris, I'm off to Modells and I was going to get you a Teix Nats jersey, but seeing how we didn't sign him, I guess I don't have to worry about a present for you.  Unless you want a Nats 2008 AAAA card collection set (featuring your favorite Nats: Langerhans, Speigner, Orr, and more!)

He's leaving with a bang! That was the post of the month.



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Offline spidernat

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Re: Plan "B"
« Reply #127 on: December 23, 2008, 06:05:32 pm »
Quote from: sportsfan882 on December 23, 2008, 06:02:44 pm
Damn.. I remember the days when Hammondsnats was one of the most optimistic posters on here. These are sad times in NatsLand.  :'(

Good old hammondsnats will be back once pitchers and catchers report (in only about 7 weeks).
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Offline tomterp

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Re: Plan "B"
« Reply #128 on: December 23, 2008, 06:05:44 pm »
Quote from: spidernat on December 23, 2008, 05:53:30 pm
I'd hate to see what would happen if we traded away Lannan, Balester, Zimmermann and Milledge.  :shock:

Well, those guys would presumably bring value in return.
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Offline PANatsFan

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Re: Plan "B"
« Reply #129 on: December 23, 2008, 06:06:22 pm »
Quote from: tomterp on December 23, 2008, 06:05:44 pm
Well, those guys would presumably bring value in return.

freak, let's trade one or two of them and get some Major League players. I'm tired of potential. Ask Pirates fans about it.
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Offline spidernat

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Re: Plan "B"
« Reply #130 on: December 23, 2008, 06:06:50 pm »
Quote from: tomterp on December 23, 2008, 06:05:44 pm
Well, those guys would presumably bring value in return.

No question but some people get attached to our minor leaguers and would be up in arms over it.
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Offline tomterp

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Re: Plan "B"
« Reply #131 on: December 23, 2008, 06:09:36 pm »
Quote from: spidernat on December 23, 2008, 06:06:50 pm
No question but some people get attached to our minor leaguers and would be up in arms over it.

Yeah, we know our guys better than we know theirs, but I'm not opposed to a deal that improves the team over the intermediate to long term.
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Offline cmdterps44

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« Reply #132 on: December 23, 2008, 06:11:17 pm »
Quote from: spidernat on December 23, 2008, 06:06:50 pm
No question but some people get attached to our minor leaguers and would be up in arms over it.

There no longer minor leaguers, except for Zimmermann of course. They play in the majors. If they were to be traded, it would suck. I dont see why you cant like players and wouldnt want them to get traded but I know that wouldn't hold back anyone if we were going to get someone outstanding in return.

Look at Rauch, i was pissed we traded him, he was one of my favorites. We got EB and than traded for Willingham and Olsen, two more great players.. Definitely worth it. (plus i like willingham and olsen lol)
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Offline ronnynat

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Re: Plan "B"
« Reply #133 on: December 23, 2008, 06:13:16 pm »
I'm wondering what teams offered us for Zimmermann. (That's why I posted that Bowden quote before.)
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Offline cmdterps44

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« Reply #134 on: December 23, 2008, 06:14:33 pm »
Would you trade Zimmermann for an outstanding 1b of your choice? (realistically here)
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Offline ronnynat

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Re: Plan "B"
« Reply #135 on: December 23, 2008, 06:15:10 pm »
Quote from: cmdterps44 on December 23, 2008, 06:14:33 pm
Would you trade Zimmermann for an outstanding 1b of your choice? (realistically here)

Zimmermann for Gonzalez or Fielder? Absolutely. :D
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Offline cmdterps44

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« Reply #136 on: December 23, 2008, 06:16:10 pm »
Quote from: ronnynat on December 23, 2008, 06:15:10 pm
Zimmermann for Gonzalez or Fielder? Absolutely. :D

I was thinking of that, those two are definitely worth it... but Id still like to see what Zimmermann can do before we trade it away (but then again thats the risk of trading)
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Offline KnorrForYourMoney

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Re: Plan "B"
« Reply #137 on: December 23, 2008, 06:16:23 pm »
Quote from: cmdterps44 on December 23, 2008, 06:14:33 pm
Would you trade Zimmermann for an outstanding 1b of your choice? (realistically here)
That's tough.  1B is a position with a lot of talent out there, but it's hard to argue against a deal like Zimmermann (and some throw-ins, possibly) for a great young 1B like Joey Votto, Adrian Gonzalez, Lars Anderson, etc.
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Offline cmdterps44

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« Reply #138 on: December 23, 2008, 06:18:04 pm »
btw, Is Gonzalez off limits? I would reallllllly love seeing him here haha. (in a non man love way, his numbers are incredible, especially for a team like the padres)
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Offline ronnynat

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« Reply #139 on: December 23, 2008, 06:19:54 pm »
Quote from: ACTAvation Energy on December 23, 2008, 06:16:23 pm
That's tough.  1B is a position with a lot of talent out there, but it's hard to argue against a deal like Zimmermann (and some throw-ins, possibly) for a great young 1B like Joey Votto, Adrian Gonzalez, Lars Anderson, etc.

I'd never trade him for Votto. I think Zimmermann's more valuable than that. I'd trade Balester for Votto, though.
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Offline KnorrForYourMoney

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Re: Plan "B"
« Reply #140 on: December 23, 2008, 06:20:20 pm »
Quote from: cmdterps44 on December 23, 2008, 06:18:04 pm
btw, Is Gonzalez off limits? I would reallllllly love seeing him here haha. (in a non man love way, his numbers are incredible, especially for a team like the padres)
Gonzalez is amazing.  Probably as good as Teixeira if not better.

It's just speculated that he could be traded because the Padres are thought to be in somewhat of a firesale.  Idk that they'd trade a franchise player like Gonzalez, though.

If I were JimBo, I'd throw the kitchen sink at them to land Gonzalez.
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Offline ronnynat

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Re: Plan "B"
« Reply #141 on: December 23, 2008, 06:20:55 pm »
We're back to fantasy trades again. :lol:  :?
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Offline KnorrForYourMoney

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Re: Plan "B"
« Reply #142 on: December 23, 2008, 06:21:19 pm »
Quote from: ronnynat on December 23, 2008, 06:19:54 pm
I'd never trade him for Votto. I think Zimmermann's more valuable than that. I'd trade Balester for Votto, though.
Votto didn't have that good of a year, but I have a lot of (possibly blind) faith that he'll become a really good player.
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Offline cmdterps44

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« Reply #143 on: December 23, 2008, 06:22:06 pm »
Quote from: ACTAvation Energy on December 23, 2008, 06:20:20 pm
Gonzalez is amazing.  Probably as good as Teixeira if not better.

If I were JimBo, I'd throw the kitchen sink at them to land Gonzalez.

Hell yes. Seeing what he can accomplish for them, he can definitely do for us and with the likes of more upcoming talent.
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Offline cmdterps44

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« Reply #144 on: December 23, 2008, 06:23:07 pm »
Quote from: ronnynat on December 23, 2008, 06:20:55 pm
We're back to fantasy trades again. :lol:  :?

Seems this is the only thing that can get us through anything. A realistic race for an outstanding player came to disappoint so its back to crappy square one
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Offline Air Zimmerman

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Re: Plan "B"
« Reply #145 on: December 23, 2008, 06:31:40 pm »
Quote from: hammondsnats on December 23, 2008, 05:59:04 pm
If we traded Milledge I'd give up on the Nats.  We contsantly give Kearns chances when he has proved he does not deserve a starting spot.  And we'd give up one of our best young players, who put up the best numbers even after missing a month and playing CF for the first time in his career.

I AGREE. we need to give Lastings more than a year to prove himself. trading Milledge would be a major mistake, he's still maturing. he has all of the tools to be a legend in the making. last year he showed glimpses of greatness and i think those glimpses will soon translate into consistency. i still have faith he can fulfill the initial potential he had with the Mets.

*he does need some serious work in CF though if that's going to be his permanent position.
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Offline cmdterps44

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Re: Plan "B"
« Reply #146 on: December 23, 2008, 06:33:10 pm »
Quote from: Air Zimmerman on December 23, 2008, 06:31:40 pm
I AGREE. we need to give Lastings more than a year to prove himself. trading Milledge would be a major mistake, he's still maturing. he has all of the tools to be a legend in the making. last year he showed glimpses of greatness and i think those glimpses will soon translate into consistency. i still have faith he can fulfill the initial potential he had with the Mets.

*he does need some serious work in CF though if that's going to be his permanent position.


:clap: agree
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Offline UMDNats

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Re: Plan "B"
« Reply #147 on: December 23, 2008, 06:38:09 pm »
Trading Milledge would be a big mistake, IMO.
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Offline KnorrForYourMoney

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Re: Plan "B"
« Reply #148 on: December 23, 2008, 06:45:31 pm »
Oh goodness, I wasn't aware that Lastings Milledge was the best position player of our time.

Glad I'm in the know, now!
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Offline Nat of the Living Dead

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Re: Plan "B"
« Reply #149 on: December 23, 2008, 06:46:11 pm »
Quote from: spidernat on December 23, 2008, 06:05:32 pm
Good old hammondsnats will be back once pitchers and catchers report (in only about 7 weeks).

Damn. I said within two weeks hammonds would be back on his crusade. Who could of guessed it would only be two hours?
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