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Offline natsfan4evr

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #2750 on: December 19, 2008, 09:28:54 am »
Is this the day we see Tex in a nats jersey?
If so, how soon will they go up for purchase?

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #2751 on: December 19, 2008, 09:32:09 am »
You think so?  I thought they were roughly equal at the plate, which was decent but nothing to write home about, yet Kotchman was a much better fielder whereas Morales was bad.

Really Kotchman and Morales are pretty equal at the plate like you said, Kotchman does have better D but if you look at it as if Tex never was on the Angels and swap Kotchman with Morales it really isn't much of a loss there about the same age and somewhat the same player. The Angels will be fine.

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #2752 on: December 19, 2008, 09:33:02 am »
Mike DiGiovanna reports that the Red Sox offer was better than the Angels'.

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The Red Sox were believed to have offered Teixeira an eight-year deal in the $175-million range, and a source who is familiar with negotiations but is not authorized to speak about them on the record said it was "significantly" better than the Angels' offer

http://www.latimes.com/sports/baseball/mlb/angels/la-sp-teixeira19-2008dec19,0,2549148.story?track=rss

Good Ol' Joel Sherman is up to his usual Nats bashing!

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And just an aside on Teixeira: I woke up this morning to see quotes from Red Sox owner John Henry that Boston is out of the bidding on the switch-hitting first baseman because the price is too high. If that is true -- and let's wait before we say anything definitive -- I would assume that the only organization that has shown an inclination to blow Teixeira away financially is Washington (unless the Angels really are willing to go way further to retain Teixeira then previously imagined). And, boy, would it say bad things about both parties if the Nats really did something in the 10-year, $200 million range for Teixeira.

Teixeira is a wonderful player. But his addition still does nothing in the short term to move the Nationals closer to first place than last place. This would be like hanging a Picasso in a shed. The Nats would be so much better off using this kind of money to assure that they will sign the first overall pick in next year's draft, beefing up their scouting all over the planet, and signing a few lower-end free agents to help get through the year with a higher level of competence. Teixeira is the kind of investment you make as a finishing piece to winning. Instead, by the time Washington would be ready to win, Teixeira likely will be in his thirties, out of his prime and starting a production slide.

http://blogs.nypost.com/sports/st/archives/2008/12/3_up_sheets_tei.html#more

Offline wpa2629

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #2753 on: December 19, 2008, 09:36:55 am »
ny post -- how surprising -- afterall , how dare the Nats want to be competitive and get a marquis player -- we're suppose to be the FARM SYSTEM for the yankees and/or mets or sox ... shame on the Nats upsetting the apple cart .... stupid elitist snob delusional new yorkers

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #2754 on: December 19, 2008, 09:38:39 am »
ny post -- how surprising -- afterall , how dare the Nats want to be competitive and get a marquis player -- we're suppose to be the FARM SYSTEM for the yankees and/or mets or sox ... shame on the Nats upsetting the apple cart .... stupid elitist snob delusional new yorkers

All I have to see is lets see how those Yankee Suites sell when there are no Wall Street bonuses to fill them.

Offline natsfan4evr

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #2755 on: December 19, 2008, 09:43:23 am »
The Orioles didn't even have anywhere near the amount of injuries we had last season, yet they finished at 68-93.
The OH people need to get off their high horse

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #2756 on: December 19, 2008, 09:44:33 am »
Mike DiGiovanna reports that the Red Sox offer was better than the Angels'.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/baseball/mlb/angels/la-sp-teixeira19-2008dec19,0,2549148.story?track=rss

Good Ol' Joel Sherman is up to his usual Nats bashing!

http://blogs.nypost.com/sports/st/archives/2008/12/3_up_sheets_tei.html#more

Haha, I saw Ray D lashed into him.  I did too!  Go get 'em guys!!

Offline natsfan4evr

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #2757 on: December 19, 2008, 09:54:53 am »
Down to us and the O's

Cashman now confirms he doesn't have the high offer either.
http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2008/12/teixeira_talk_r.html

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #2758 on: December 19, 2008, 09:59:22 am »
I think its much more likely the numbers are in the same ballpark and the 'no mas' has more to do with a no trade clause or an opt out
I think the hangup for the Sox is the length of the contract - 10 years.  Apparently they don't want to go beyond 8.

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #2759 on: December 19, 2008, 10:04:00 am »
Holy crap ... the suspense is killing me!

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #2760 on: December 19, 2008, 10:08:19 am »
The Red Sox haven't given up on the idea of signing Mark Teixeira, according to multiple baseball sources.

They are just taking a break from the bidding.

Though Boston's chances to land the multitalented free-agent slugger may have diminished slightly after the sides failed to make progress in their high-powered Texas meeting Thursday night, few baseball people believe the Red Sox are completely out of the picture.

At least a half-dozen baseball executives with some knowledge of the process suggested to SI.com that the Red Sox remain interested in Teixeira and are merely intent on sticking to their last proposal (which one source pegged at close to but probably not more than $180 million for eight years). While none of these people were in the room in Dallas where Red Sox owner John Henry and general manager Theo Epstein met with Teixeira and his agent, Scott Boras, they all have some peripheral knowledge of the negotiations.

Several of these baseball executives suggested Henry and Epstein could merely be engaging in a game of poker with Boras, and all said they believed the Red Sox still would like to land Teixeira, the biggest free-agent prize among everyday players.

Henry e-mailed reporters late Thursday and said, "We met with Mr. Teixeira and were very much impressed by him. After hearing about the other offers, however, it seems clear that we are not going to be a factor.''

Several subsequent headlines indicated the Red Sox had pulled out of the Teixeira sweepstakes. But the executives suggested all Henry meant is that he is sticking to his number and is not intending to bid higher. In other words, he is calling Boras' perceived bluff but remaining in the high-stakes game.

The Red Sox were perceived by many as the leading contender for Teixeira heading into the Dallas meeting, ahead of the Angels, Yankees, Nationals and Orioles.


The talking heads just can't accept the fact that Tex is not going to a media approved destination

Offline Natskins

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #2761 on: December 19, 2008, 10:10:27 am »
Down to us and the O's

Cashman now confirms he doesn't have the high offer either.
http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2008/12/teixeira_talk_r.html

How did you get "down to us and the O's" out of that article? That's not how I read it at all. I think the Sox are far from out of this thing, and I haven't heard anything to suggest the O's are still alive.

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #2762 on: December 19, 2008, 10:11:34 am »
The talking heads just can't accept the fact that Tex is not going to a media approved destination
They have had a terrible week so far.
First, they blew the Furcal story. Now it looks like they were wrong about Tex.
Maybe their "sources" aren't so reliable after all?

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #2763 on: December 19, 2008, 10:12:56 am »
How did you get "down to us and the O's" out of that article? That's not how I read it at all. I think the Sox are far from out of this thing, and I haven't heard anything to suggest the O's are still alive.
Well it says the Sox were outbid, but it wasn't by the Yankees or Angels
Who is left? Us and the O's

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #2764 on: December 19, 2008, 10:13:26 am »
The Red Sox haven't given up on the idea of signing Mark Teixeira, according to multiple baseball sources.
You got a link for all this?

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Offline DPMOmaha

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #2766 on: December 19, 2008, 10:16:33 am »
They have had a terrible week so far.
First, they blew the Furcal story. Now it looks like they were wrong about Tex.
Maybe their "sources" aren't so reliable after all?
Yeah, but that Furcal story was all screwed up.  The information they had when they went to bed was right and then there were some shady dealings and when everyone woke up in the morning everyone looked around and asked,
"Hey, has anyone seen Rafael?"  
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He's where?"  
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Los Angeles?"  
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"What happened to Atlanta?"  

I don't pin that one on the media.  This one, I don't believe that anyone, except for this random guy in Maine, really knows what's going on.  Heck, I'm not convinced Tex even knows whats going on.

Offline natsfan4evr

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #2767 on: December 19, 2008, 10:17:52 am »
Yeah, but that Furcal story was all screwed up.  The information they had when they went to bed was right and then there were some shady dealings and when everyone woke up in the morning everyone looked around and asked,
"Hey, has anyone seen Rafael?  
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He's where?  
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Los Angeles?  
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What happened to Atlanta?"  

I don't pin that one on the media.  This one, I don't believe that anyone, except for this random guy in Maine, really knows what's going on.  Heck, I'm not convinced Tex even knows whats going on.
Thankfully there isn't a midnight deadline.
You know how bad we get at those.

Offline Natskins

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #2768 on: December 19, 2008, 10:19:33 am »
Well it says the Sox were outbid, but it wasn't by the Yankees or Angels
Who is left? Us and the O's

Yeah, but you have to read between the lines.

The Sox were outbid, but that doesn't mean they're out of the race. Boston saying they're out of the running is their way of calling Boras' bluff. And the Angels don't exactly deny anything. All they said is that the developments are "interesting." And Cashman said it wasn't the Yankees...but even he could be lying.

All reports also suggest that the O's' offer is nowhere near the offers of the Nats, Sox, or Angels.

It's possible too that Tex would take less money to go to Boston, as long as the money is fairly close. It's a poker game that's going on, that's all.

Offline HalfSmokes

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #2769 on: December 19, 2008, 10:22:21 am »
Why do I get the sinking feeling that we're only in this to make some other team pay more?

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #2770 on: December 19, 2008, 10:27:40 am »
Why do I get the sinking feeling that we're only in this to make some other team pay more?
The quid pro quo to sign Strasburg?  ;)

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #2771 on: December 19, 2008, 10:27:52 am »
Nick Cafardo is on First Take
He says no one has trumped The Red Sox offer.
He says they are calling Boras' bluff

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #2772 on: December 19, 2008, 10:29:28 am »
Why do I get the sinking feeling that we're only in this to make some other team pay more?

That's sure how I felt yesterday. To be completely honest, I think Tex wants to go to Boston, and Boston wants Tex. And the two sides are trying to get the best deal they can for themselves. So yeah, perhaps we are just a pawn.

But on the positive side, if the Sox really do refuse to budge an inch, and our offer blows theirs out of the water, he may be left with no choice but to come here. So that's kinda what I'm pulling for at this point.

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #2773 on: December 19, 2008, 10:30:25 am »
Nick Cafardo is on First Take
He says no one has trumped The Red Sox offer.
He says they are calling Boras' bluff

well, we'll see if Boras folds.

who's gonna blink first?

Offline HalfSmokes

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #2774 on: December 19, 2008, 10:33:26 am »
That's sure how I felt yesterday. To be completely honest, I think Tex wants to go to Boston, and Boston wants Tex. And the two sides are trying to get the best deal they can for themselves. So yeah, perhaps we are just a pawn.

But on the positive side, if the Sox really do refuse to budge an inch, and our offer blows theirs out of the water, he may be left with no choice but to come here. So that's kinda what I'm pulling for at this point.

Essentially we're rooting for MLBPA pressure to work in our favor?