Tex and the Nats...

[cmdterps44]

yea that offer or 10yr200m is 20 per year! beats that!

so easy when its not your money

[spidernat]

we can beat that offer.  8 years 164ish for starters.

Now that a number has been leaked the Lerners will make a "serious' offer of 8/148 to show they are "willing" to spend and pacify the doubters.

[cmdterps44]

yea if they throw money out like that thers two ways this argument can go

"Show how serious they are about this and want to rebuild"

or

"Pretending to be serious players to not get hate from us"

lol

[Minty Fresh]

freak it.  You want him bad enough?  Go 10/200 like he said he was looking for. 

Hell, it's not my money.

[HalfSmokes]

freak it.  You want him bad enough?  Go 10/200 like he said he was looking for. 

Hell, it's not my money.

The only think I worry about is no team has one it all with one player making over 15% of the team's payroll. (at least that was true up to a few years ago and I can't think of a team that won in the past few years to change that) If we get him and increase our payroll to match great; if we get him and use that as an excuse to trade away rather than resign guys in arbitration (Zimmerman particullarly) then I'd rather get someone cheaper.

[blue911]

The only think I worry about is no team has one it all with one player making over 15% of the team's payroll. (at least that was true up to a few years ago and I can't think of a team that won in the past few years to change that) If we get him and increase our payroll to match great; if we get him and use that as an excuse to trade away rather than resign guys in arbitration (Zimmerman particullarly) then I'd rather get someone cheaper.

This is true but after the '09 season, the Nats lose $18.5M in salaries from Johnson,Young and Kearns. So front load the contract for the first three years,then back it down over the remaing 7. That way you aren't interfering with signing "homegrown" talent, Zimmerman,Lannan, etc...

[hammondsnats]

ted lerner is top 150 richest man in america and one of the richest sports owners.  he can afford to spend the money. 

[blue911]

ted lerner is top 150 richest man in america and one of the richest sports owners.  he can afford to spend the money. 

So when the mortgage industry collapses a real estate baron is exempt? What are you, a wiseguy?

[HalfSmokes]

ted lerner is top 150 richest man in america and one of the richest sports owners.  he can afford to spend the money. 

Name me one winning franchise where the team looses money. The owners are in to at leasst break even.

[tomterp]

So when the mortgage industry collapses a real estate baron is exempt? What are you, a wiseguy?

There's nobody feeling like spending a lot of money these days.  Real estate is getting hammered just like everything else.  All investments aside from T-Bills are declining in value.

[HalfSmokes]

There's nobody feeling like spending a lot of money these days.  Real estate is getting hammered just like everything else.  All investments aside from T-Bills are declining in value.

VA munis are actually doing pretty well, for now at least

[blue911]

The Lerners have probably lost more money in the last three months than all of us combined will earn in our lifetimes. And it's stupid to say they have money, when you don't know how the corporate Nationals are structured.

[hammondsnats]

The Lerners have probably lost more money in the last three months than all of us combined will earn in our lifetimes. And it's stupid to say they have money, when you don't know how the corporate Nationals are structured.

no it's not stupid they have plenty of money.

[blue911]

no it's not stupid they have plenty of money.

Do you know how the Nationals are financially structured?

[hammondsnats]

Do you know how the Nationals are financially structured?

not per say, but i can take a stab. 

[blue911]

not per say, but i can take a stab. 

Stab away.

[ronnynat]

Stab away.

Yeah, I wanna see this.

[HalfSmokes]

Its a Deleware limited partnership, at least part of it.

THIS IS NOT A STATEMENT OF GOOD STANDING
 
File Number: 4144719 Incorporation Date / Formation Date: 04/24/2006
(mm/dd/yyyy)
Entity Name: WASHINGTON NATIONALS LP
Entity Kind: LIMITED PARTNERSHIP (LP) Entity Type: GENERAL
Residency: DOMESTIC State: DE
   
REGISTERED AGENT INFORMATION
   
Name: NATIONAL CORPORATE RESEARCH, LTD.
Address: 615 SOUTH DUPONT HWY
City: DOVER County: KENT
State: DE Postal Code: 19901
Phone: (302)734-1450
   
 

there is also an associated llc

http://www.lernerenterprises.com/newsArchives/natsLernerNamed.html

[hammondsnats]

Stab away.

i'm too lazy now and need to get back to work but i'd love to at a later time. 

(cue the typical hammondsnats post) the bottom line for now though is they do have money and they better start spending

[tomterp]

i'm too lazy now and need to get back to work but i'd love to at a later time. 

Don't forget, I'm still waiting for my explanation on how you know the Nationals have a separate budget for minor league signings vs. major league salaries.  No butting in the response line.

[houston-nat]

How many major league teams are registered as a company in another state? I can see it now: "Chicago Cubs Inc. Des Moines, IA"

[hammondsnats]

Don't forget, I'm still waiting for my explanation on how you know the Nationals have a separate budget for minor league signings vs. major league salaries.  No butting in the response line.

haha okay i'll get to that first when i'm free but i read it somewhere they do a while back and from baseball people i have talked to it was of my understanding that they generally do have seperate budgets/or they don't let free agent signings affect their draft picking spending.

[HalfSmokes]

How many major league teams are registered as a company in another state? I can see it now: "Chicago Cubs Inc. Des Moines, IA"

My guess is that every team is registered in Deleware or Nevada for financial reasons

[spidernat]

It would be stupid and unprofessional of them not to have at least an idea of how much money they allocate for spending at each level of signings (FA, draft, international players).

haha okay i'll get to that first when i'm free but i read it somewhere they do a while back and from baseball people i have talked to it was of my understanding that they generally do have seperate budgets/or they don't let free agent signings affect their draft picking spending.

I think I read that a while back also hammonds. But then again, I suppose tomterp can provide personal emails from Kasten to prove that we read no such thing.

[tomterp]

I think I read that a while back also hammonds. But then again, I suppose tomterp can provide personal emails from Kasten to prove that we read no such thing.