Tex and the Nats...

[ronnynat]

So when the red sox president says we're "not a factor" he actually means -- what exactly?

"We're not paying Tex $30 mil a year, Boras!"

[wpa2629]

It's a ploy to try to get Boras to lower the price. The Sox owner knows that Tex won't sign with us or Baltimore. He knows Boras/Tex will have to come back to Boston eventually.

Why? Boros' clients take the most money -- that's why Pudge ended up in DETROIT -- not boston, not new york - DETROIT -- the fact of the matter remains that the Sox FO have said that they are NOT a factor - Boros himself confirmed that Tex made it clear where he stood and that he was eliminating teams -- the only people propping up the idea that this is a poker move is the boston media ...

[spidernat]

Dude, what's going on w/ you today?

I like the new PANatsFan a lot better. He seems to have found his sack.

Why is it so difficult for people to accept that what the Angels said about being used to drive up the price can also be true, and more than likely IS, about us being used?

[PANatsFan]

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081220&content_id=3724474

Bobby Lodson says a lot with very little content. The screwjob will be revealed soon enough.

[PANatsFan]

Dude, what's going on w/ you today?

Everything I've said is true. I've worked like 21 days straight and I'm starting to lose it

[Natskins]

So when the red sox president says we're "not a factor" he actually means -- what exactly?

His exact words were "We met with Mr. Teixeira and were very much impressed with him. After hearing about his other offers, however, it seems clear that we are not going to be a factor."

"IT SEEMS CLEAR that we are not going to be a factor"  "AFTER HEARING ABOUT HIS OTHER OFFERS."

What this means is, "Ok, Boros, if these other supposed offers you have are so fantastic, then go take one of them." This is known as calling someone's bluff.

[wpa2629]

I like the new PANatsFan a lot better. He seems to have found his sack.

Why is it so difficult for people to accept that what the Angels said about being used to drive up the price can also be true, and more than likely IS, about us being used?

Which is certainly possible -- I don't dispute that at all --  but it appears that it's not going to work for boston -- they're not going to bite -- if Tex wants to go there, he'll have to take less than at least what Washington is offering -- which is not Boros' mo ... and it would appear that PA is banking on a home town discount -  at this point, it seems like it's more about Washington bidding against themselves ...

[sportsfan882]

His exact words were "We met with Mr. Teixeira and were very much impressed with him. After hearing about his other offers, however, it seems clear that we are not going to be a factor."

"IT SEEMS CLEAR that we are not going to be a factor"  "AFTER HEARING ABOUT HIS OTHER OFFERS."

What this means is, "Ok, Boros, if these other supposed offers you have are so fantastic, then go take one of them." This is known as calling someone's bluff.

QFT. That's exactly what's happening.

[spidernat]

His exact words were "We met with Mr. Teixeira and were very much impressed with him. After hearing about his other offers, however, it seems clear that we are not going to be a factor."

"IT SEEMS CLEAR that we are not going to be a factor"  "AFTER HEARING ABOUT HIS OTHER OFFERS."

What this means is, "Ok, Boros, if these other supposed offers you have are so fantastic, then go take one of them." This is known as calling someone's bluff.

QFT    Some people can't accept the reality that we are not a prime destination for FA's at this time.

[PANatsFan]

Which is certainly possible -- I don't dispute that at all --  but it appears that it's not going to work for boston -- they're not going to bite -- if Tex wants to go there, he'll have to take less than at least what Washington is offering -- which is not Boros' mo ... and it would appear that PA is banking on a home town discount -  at this point, it seems like it's more about Washington bidding against themselves ...

If Tex lowballs us, the Player's Union will have his head.

[ronnynat]

His exact words were "We met with Mr. Teixeira and were very much impressed with him. After hearing about his other offers, however, it seems clear that we are not going to be a factor."

"IT SEEMS CLEAR that we are not going to be a factor"  "AFTER HEARING ABOUT HIS OTHER OFFERS."

What this means is, "Ok, Boros, if these other supposed offers you have are so fantastic, then go take one of them." This is known as calling someone's bluff.

Exactly.

Are you guys spelling "Boras" wrong on purpose? If so, why "Boros"?

[DCFan]

Has Boras and/or Tex gone and met with any other teams besides the Red Sox?

When Tex was in Severna Park visiting his parents, he came down to DC to meet with Lerner.  And then Cashman flew down to DC for his own sitdown with Tex.

[wpa2629]

His exact words were "We met with Mr. Teixeira and were very much impressed with him. After hearing about his other offers, however, it seems clear that we are not going to be a factor."

"IT SEEMS CLEAR that we are not going to be a factor"  "AFTER HEARING ABOUT HIS OTHER OFFERS."



What this means is, "Ok, Boros, if these other supposed offers you have are so fantastic, then go take one of them." This is known as calling someone's bluff.

I read it as it's CLEAR WE'RE NOT A FACTOR ... it's been widely reported that Washington has the highest offer (along with the Angels) on the table -- Boston is making it clear that if Tex wants to come there, he'll have to take less money -- I don't see a Boros client doing that -

Look, I agree that it's a long shot that he comes here -- but I don't see boston as nearly the "lock" that everyone else does ...

[wpa2629]

QFT    Some people can't accept the reality that we are not a prime destination for FA's at this time.

Who's saying we're a prime destination for a free agent?  My point  -- is that it appears clear that if Tex wants to play for Boston, he'll have to take less money to do so -- and I don't see a Boras client doing that...

[Natskins]

Look, I agree that it's a long shot that he comes here -- but I don't see boston as nearly the "lock" that everyone else does ...

It may not be a lock that he goes to Boston, but you're fooling yourself if you think Henry's comment means they're out of the mix. The Angels are the only team to officially pull out.

[Nando03]

You know.  I wish that his family would just say, "You know it's only 20 miles further then Camden Yards and that New Stadium in DC is sooo much nicer.  We should take their super offer which is more then all the others and be the "spark" that turned that franchise into a contender year in and year out."

[wpa2629]

It may not be a lock that he goes to Boston, but you're fooling yourself if you think Henry's comment means they're out of the mix. The Angels are the only team to officially pull out.

maybe they are in the mix -- and if Tex goes there, it's because he took less money than was offered elsewhere -- it's certainly possible -- but it would go against everything boras stand for

[ronnynat]

You know.  I wish that his family would just say, "You know it's only 20 miles further then Camden Yards and that New Stadium in DC is sooo much nicer.  We should take their super offer which is more then all the others and be the "spark" that turned that franchise into a contender year in and year out."

I'd buy that family a round or two of drinks.

[DCFan]

It may not be a lock that he goes to Boston, but you're fooling yourself if you think Henry's comment means they're out of the mix. The Angels are the only team to officially pull out.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ti-teixeira122108&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Angels withdraw offer to Teixeira

By Tim Brown, Yahoo! Sports 1 hour, 49 minutes ago

Yahoo! Sports

The Los Angeles Angels on Sunday afternoon withdrew their offer to free-agent slugger Mark Teixeira and do not intend to continue negotiations with his agent, according to a source close to the negotiations.

Believed to have offered about $160 million over eight seasons, the Angels became the second team in recent days to declare the price on Teixeira to be too steep. The Boston Red Sox reached a similar decision Thursday night after meeting with Teixeira and agent Scott Boras. Team owner John Henry issued a statement that concluded, “ … we are not going to be a factor,” though evidence suggests negotiations are not dead.

Sources close to the process said Angels owner Arte Moreno concluded that Teixeira did not intend to play for the Angels and that his team was being used to drive up the price for the other interested clubs.

Also, a source said the Red Sox have not spoken to Boras since Thursday night, when Henry issued his statement.

[wpa2629]

I'd buy that family a round or two of drinks.

Me too

[Nando03]

I'd buy that family a round or two of drinks.

Put me down for that too.  Plus dinner. LOL

[BerkeleyNat]

This Tex stuff is getting crazy. I just wish that he would make up his damn mind sometime soon. I have a bad feeling that by the time this thing is done, they'll be no one left for our plan "B" if we don't get Tex.

[Bags]

maybe they are in the mix -- and if Tex goes there, it's because he took less money than was offered elsewhere -- it's certainly possible -- but it would go against everything boras stand for

I saw a Boras comment that was posted somewhere recently in which he said roughly half of his clients don't take the highest bid.  Now whether that's true or not, I have no idea, although I'm sure if someone called him on it, he would be ready to produce some examples in an attempt to back it up. 
 

[PANatsFan]

I saw a Boras comment that was posted somewhere recently in which he said roughly half of his clients don't take the highest bid.  Now whether that's true or not, I have no idea, although I'm sure if someone called him on it, he would be ready to produce some examples in an attempt to back it up. 
 

There's mitigating factors like no-trade's, opt-out's, and average yearly salaries.

[natsdad]

Noe that that the Baltimore Hilton is blocking the view of downtown Baltimore the DC Stadium may be nicer or at least equal.