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Re: 2023-24 free agency, trades, and signings
« Reply #450 on: January 10, 2024, 08:23:49 am »


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Re: 2023-24 free agency, trades, and signings
« Reply #452 on: January 12, 2024, 07:03:37 am »
Not free agency but Juan Soto gets $31 million.  $20.5 for Pete Alonso. 

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Re: 2023-24 free agency, trades, and signings
« Reply #453 on: January 12, 2024, 08:19:25 am »
22 players did not reach agreements with their clubs. Figures exchanged. Biggest gaps between player and team:

Adolis Garcia - $6.9 MM vs. $5 MM ($1.9 million gap)
Vladi Jr. - $19.9MM vs. $18.05MM (darn close to $1.9 MM)
Luis Arraez - $12MM vs. $10.6MM ($1.4MM)
Jonathan India - $4 million vs. $3.2 MM ($800K)
Alec Bohm - $4MM vs. $3.4MM ($600K)
Ryan O'Hearn - $3.8MM vs. $3.2MM ($600K)

Vladi Jr. and Arraez are the only submissions over $10 million. India is interesting because he may not have a starting job in Cinci. Harold Ramirez is $500K apart from the Rays ($4.3MM vs. $3.8MM). Both India and Ramirez have been rumored to be on the trade market. Orioles lead with 5 cases, followed by the Marlins with 3.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2024/01/requested-salary-figures-for-22-players-who-didnt-reach-agreements-by-arbitration-filing-deadline.html

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Re: 2023-24 free agency, trades, and signings
« Reply #454 on: January 12, 2024, 10:06:27 am »
22 players did not reach agreements with their clubs. Figures exchanged. Biggest gaps between player and team:

Adolis Garcia - $6.9 MM vs. $5 MM ($1.9 million gap)
Vladi Jr. - $19.9MM vs. $18.05MM (darn close to $1.9 MM)
Luis Arraez - $12MM vs. $10.6MM ($1.4MM)
Jonathan India - $4 million vs. $3.2 MM ($800K)
Alec Bohm - $4MM vs. $3.4MM ($600K)
Ryan O'Hearn - $3.8MM vs. $3.2MM ($600K)

Vladi Jr. and Arraez are the only submissions over $10 million. India is interesting because he may not have a starting job in Cinci. Harold Ramirez is $500K apart from the Rays ($4.3MM vs. $3.8MM). Both India and Ramirez have been rumored to be on the trade market. Orioles lead with 5 cases, followed by the Marlins with 3.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2024/01/requested-salary-figures-for-22-players-who-didnt-reach-agreements-by-arbitration-filing-deadline.html


Texas really wants to hold the line on Garcia after his postseason? OK

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Re: 2023-24 free agency, trades, and signings
« Reply #455 on: January 12, 2024, 02:11:29 pm »
https://blogs.fangraphs.com/examining-landing-spots-for-rhys-hoskins/

It's Baumann, so worth a read because Baumann always has a few turns of phrases. This one doesn't have as many that stand out as he usually does. He goes through the 60 1B/DH slots in the majors, finds about 17 that are plausibly open for a RH hitter, and starts to ID potential landing spots. Lumps the Nats, Pirates, and Rays as a group that have potential fits but are unlikely to sign him unless the price drops well below 8 figures. The 4 he thinks have the best fit and might pursue him are the Cubs and Rangers, plus more intriguing spots with the Brewers and Mets. Cubs still have space even after the Busch trade because Morel can play in the field, Rangers need to replace Garver, and the Brewers probably could use an upgrade from Jake Bauers. As for the last option?
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The last option that intrigues me is a little sacrilegious. But the Mets are already way over the last meaningful tax threshold, their current plan at DH is DJ Stewart in some kind of a platoon situation, and Alonso’s name has been swirling in trade rumors for a year. Come on. You’re not at least a little intrigued by the possibility of a Rhys Hoskins heel turn?

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Re: 2023-24 free agency, trades, and signings
« Reply #456 on: January 19, 2024, 03:03:13 pm »
Josh Hader to the Astros - 5/$95 million. Coming off a dominant season in SD.

no deferrals, no trade clause.

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Re: 2023-24 free agency, trades, and signings
« Reply #457 on: January 19, 2024, 03:27:09 pm »
Josh Hader to the Astros - 5/$95 million. Coming off a dominant season in SD.

no deferrals, no trade clause.
A contract like that, they should have sent out wedding announcements beforehand.

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Re: 2023-24 free agency, trades, and signings
« Reply #458 on: January 19, 2024, 04:38:30 pm »
Josh Hader to the Astros - 5/$95 million. Coming off a dominant season in SD.

no deferrals, no trade clause.

Memories…


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« Reply #459 on: January 19, 2024, 07:14:23 pm »
Memories…



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Re: 2023-24 free agency, trades, and signings
« Reply #460 on: January 20, 2024, 06:10:19 pm »
Josh Hader to the Astros - 5/$95 million. Coming off a dominant season in SD.

no deferrals, no trade clause.
with Hader off the board, Robert "Luis" Stephenson signs for 3 yrs, $33 million with the Angels.
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2024/01/angels-to-sign-robert-stephenson.html

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Re: 2023-24 free agency, trades, and signings
« Reply #461 on: January 23, 2024, 11:11:24 pm »
Hoskins to the Brewers: 2/$34 million. Nats never had a chance

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Re: 2023-24 free agency, trades, and signings
« Reply #462 on: January 23, 2024, 11:35:09 pm »
Hoskins to the Brewers: 3/$34 million. Nats never had a chance

Might be 2/$34 million https://www.mlb.com/news/rhys-hoskins-brewers-free-agent-contract

Either way, well beyond what this team is willing to spend.

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« Reply #463 on: January 23, 2024, 11:44:48 pm »
You are right, 2 years. Would have been a good signing if we had an intent to compete next year

Passan says he can opt out after a year.

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« Reply #464 on: January 24, 2024, 06:35:13 am »
Hoskins to the Brewers: 2/$34 million. Nats never had a chance
That’s a bargain.  Nats didn’t have a chance because they don’t want to spend. 

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« Reply #465 on: January 24, 2024, 07:58:04 am »
Payroll is at an almost respectable $110 million. The only problem is that $50 million of that is Strasburg and Corbin. Without them, we'd be 29th in Payroll. It is nice to see the Orioles doing absolutely nothing to push their team over the top. 

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« Reply #466 on: January 24, 2024, 08:14:47 am »
That’s a bargain.  Nats didn’t have a chance because they don’t want to spend. 
I'm guessing that the expectation is he opts out if he has a healthy decent year, but has insurance in case that doesn't happen. For comparison, years ago Beltre's pillow contract with the Red Sox was only one year, so he was exposed if he didn't erupt and begin his ascent to the HoF.

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« Reply #467 on: January 24, 2024, 08:24:52 am »
Payroll is at an almost respectable $110 million. The only problem is that $50 million of that is Strasburg and Corbin. Without them, we'd be 29th in Payroll. It is nice to see the Orioles doing absolutely nothing to push their team over the top. 
I think it's $70 million to Stras and Corbin this year, not accounting for for deferrals. Counting those two at $68 million, Cot's has their projected year end 40 man payroll at $125 million ($118 million for active roster). You can expect those numbers to decrease when Gallo and Robles get traded or released.

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« Reply #468 on: January 24, 2024, 08:28:03 am »
I'm guessing that the expectation is he opts out if he has a healthy decent year, but has insurance in case that doesn't happen. For comparison, years ago Beltre's pillow contract with the Red Sox was only one year, so he was exposed if he didn't erupt and begin his ascent to the HoF.
Thats worth the gamble to me. Its even better for him if he has a great rebound year because the Nats can trade him, and thus, he can opt out and no qualifying offer to attach draft pick compensation to signing him next offseason.

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« Reply #469 on: January 24, 2024, 08:40:25 am »
That’s a bargain.  Nats didn’t have a chance because they don’t want to spend. 
There's also a high likelihood Hoskins preferred to play for a contender.

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« Reply #470 on: January 24, 2024, 09:01:03 am »
There's also a high likelihood Hoskins preferred to play for a contender.
Yes.  They will have to outbid teams for free agents. 

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« Reply #471 on: January 24, 2024, 09:31:31 am »
Thats worth the gamble to me. Its even better for him if he has a great rebound year because the Nats can trade him, and thus, he can opt out and no qualifying offer to attach draft pick compensation to signing him next offseason.
Assume you mean the Brewers can trade him mid-season in 2024 or 2025, but yes, that's an added bonus. Of course, if he's hitting in 2024, the Brewers are likely to be in contention in the Central.

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« Reply #472 on: January 24, 2024, 09:34:16 am »
Still a lot of bats out there for somebody to sign: Bellinger, Chapman, Pederson, Rosario, Belt, Votto, Soler, some others. I hope the signings over the past couple of days start everything moving.

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« Reply #473 on: January 24, 2024, 10:15:41 am »
Assume you mean the Brewers can trade him mid-season in 2024 or 2025, but yes, that's an added bonus. Of course, if he's hitting in 2024, the Brewers are likely to be in contention in the Central.
I meant if we had signed him.

I think the Brewers are going to try and compete for the division. Its not exactly a loaded one and they have one more year of Burnes.

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« Reply #474 on: January 24, 2024, 10:21:05 am »
Still a lot of bats out there for somebody to sign: Bellinger, Chapman, Pederson, Rosario, Belt, Votto, Soler, some others. I hope the signings over the past couple of days start everything moving.

Seems like we're done at this point. I know Rizzo has mentioned going after a starter,  but we have about 7 starters competing for 5 slots right now so I don't see it happening.