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« Topic Start: March 07, 2023, 03:58:28 PM »
The QB action is heating up:
- Giants reportedly closing in a four-year deal with Danny Football
- Rodgers talking to the Jets
- Carr to NoLa
- Lamar gets a franchise tag
- Stephen A says Tua's health is creating speculation of Tom Brady coming back (again)
- Commanders........

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« Reply #1: March 07, 2023, 05:31:50 PM »
4/$160 for Daniel Jones. Saquon gets tagged as well.

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« Reply #2: March 07, 2023, 06:04:20 PM »
4/$160 for Daniel Jones. Saquon gets tagged as well.
LOL. Did Jerry Jones take over the Giants.

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« Reply #3: March 07, 2023, 06:19:43 PM »

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« Reply #4: March 07, 2023, 06:22:13 PM »
LOL. Did Jerry Jones take over the Giants.

David Carr just got 4/$150 million. Geno Smith got 3/$105 million. QBs are expensive. Jones was the #12 QB in the NFL last year per Pro Football Network's power rankings.  Smith was 10th but is much older. Carr was 17th.

Only $94 million of Jones' deal is guaranteed. And his first year cap hit is $19 million.

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« Reply #5: March 07, 2023, 06:47:40 PM »
David Carr just got 4/$150 million. Geno Smith got 3/$105 million. QBs are expensive. Jones was the #12 QB in the NFL last year per Pro Football Network's power rankings.  Smith was 10th but is much older. Carr was 17th.

Only $94 million of Jones' deal is guaranteed. And his first year cap hit is $19 million.
They have lots of holes on the team that will be harder to fill going forward.  Signing a running back who has been hurt a lot is not smart either. Res are a dime a dozen.

 Just because other teams are making dumb QB deals doesn't mean it makes sense.  At least with NO they are in a terrible division and Carr will be the best QB there by far. Here is another ranking.  #18.  I think its fair to say he is in the middle of the pack even with improved play.

https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-qb-index-ranking-all-32-teams-primary-starting-quarterbacks-at-the-end-of-th

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« Reply #6: March 07, 2023, 09:09:28 PM »
I can understand signing Jones. I don’t understand tagging Barkley. RBs with big contracts usually don’t work out.

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« Reply #7: March 07, 2023, 09:25:48 PM »
Not totally sold on Jones but agree on Barkley.  Just think even if you have a top ten guy, which I think DAK is, it’s hard to justify that money unless he comes up big in the playoffs. Should only be 4 or 5 QBs getting that money. Jones was exposed by the Eagles in the playoffs. The same Eagles D that was shredded by Mahomes. Geno Smiith getting all that money is also crazy for a team that is not close.

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« Reply #8: March 10, 2023, 05:36:59 PM »
Per Ian Rappaport, Bears sending the #1 to Carolina for a boatload of picks/players.

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« Reply #9: March 10, 2023, 06:22:50 PM »
:shock: this just doesn’t seem like the right qb class to go all in for

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« Reply #10: March 10, 2023, 06:40:39 PM »
:shock: this just doesn’t seem like the right qb class to go all in for
Even when people think it’s a great QB class it’s still something of a crap shoot. I think a bunch of the NFL top QBs were NOT top five picks. Mahomes. Hurts.  Josh Allen. DAK. Plenty of duds over the years.

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« Reply #11: March 10, 2023, 06:49:07 PM »
People are gaga over stroud, young and the guy from Florida. 


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« Reply #12: March 10, 2023, 06:49:35 PM »
Even when people think it’s a great QB class it’s still something of a crap shoot. I think a bunch of the NFL top QBs were NOT top five picks. Mahomes. Hurts.  Josh Allen. DAK. Plenty of duds over the years.

Zach Wilson checking in.

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« Reply #13: March 10, 2023, 06:54:38 PM »
Zach Wilson checking in.
Wentz and RG III were one heat wonders basically.  Going back further Jamarcus Russell and Ryan Leaf. I guess teams figure they can flag guys now with those social problems. Going back further Akili Smith and Tim Couch in the same draft.

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« Reply #14: March 10, 2023, 06:56:31 PM »
People are gaga over stroud, young and the guy from Florida.
Think it’s difficult to judge guys because the college passing game is all scripted for them.

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« Reply #15: March 10, 2023, 09:16:09 PM »
Think it’s difficult to judge guys because the college passing game is all scripted for them.

Yep. Remember when Hurts was forced out of Alabama to make room for Tua? Burrow to make room for Haskins? Mahomes having to choose between Texas Tech, Rice and Houston…

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« Reply #16: March 13, 2023, 02:58:26 PM »
Aaron Rodgers heading to the Jets per Trey Wingo.

Jimmy G. takes his talents to Las Vegas.

And Mike White to Miami.

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« Reply #17: March 13, 2023, 02:59:14 PM »
Lamar's options are starting to dry up

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« Reply #18: March 13, 2023, 03:01:26 PM »
Lamar's options are starting to dry up

he's going to have to play another season in Baltimore unless the Cowboys do something drastic.

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Re: NFL 2023-24
« Reply #19: March 13, 2023, 03:19:24 PM »
Aaron Rodgers heading to the Jets per Trey Wingo.

Jimmy G. takes his talents to Las Vegas.

And Mike White to Miami.
I forget if McDaniel was back with BB when Jimmy G ran the scout team for the Seattle Super Bowl. They worked on the exact goal line play that led to Malcolm Butler's interception.  Supposedly Butler blew it in practice multiple times.

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« Reply #20: March 13, 2023, 03:35:14 PM »
he's going to have to play another season in Baltimore unless the Cowboys do something drastic.

If Snyder weren't broke, Washington would be the perfect landing sport for a QB looking to be massively overpaid

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« Reply #21: March 14, 2023, 11:29:11 AM »
Heinicke reportedly signs with the Falcons for two years, $20 million.

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« Reply #22: March 14, 2023, 12:35:52 PM »
Heinicke reportedly signs with the Falcons for two years, $20 million.

Good for him, he earned a payday.

I wonder if someone like Bridgewater comes to DC.

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« Reply #23: March 14, 2023, 12:37:57 PM »
Jets working on adding Allan Lazard and Randall Cobb to give Rodgers some familiar weapons.

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« Reply #24: March 14, 2023, 01:41:04 PM »
Lamar tweets that he turned down 3 years with $133 million guaranteed.