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Re: 2023 MLB Draft
« Reply #575 on: July 08, 2023, 08:34:13 pm »
I promise to be happy tomorrow night, regardless, and am getting psyched for our second rounder.

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« Reply #577 on: July 09, 2023, 10:46:04 am »
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« Reply #578 on: July 09, 2023, 12:23:38 pm »
"The Pirates are shopping a below-slot number to four players for the No. 1 pick, according to multiple industry officials: Wyatt Langford, Paul Skenes, Max Clark and Walker Jenkins.

There’s a lot of belief Langford will be the pick, but Jenkins is rising as a possibility."

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« Reply #579 on: July 09, 2023, 12:45:05 pm »
Big day today gentlemen! About to get a future face of the franchise from LSU!

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« Reply #580 on: July 09, 2023, 12:47:32 pm »
Big day today gentlemen! About to get a future face of the franchise from LSU!



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« Reply #581 on: July 09, 2023, 12:51:05 pm »
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« Reply #582 on: July 09, 2023, 01:15:47 pm »
I don’t understand the new draft rules. Do they mean that no matter how bad the Nats are this year, they can’t get a top six pick next year?

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« Reply #583 on: July 09, 2023, 01:15:52 pm »
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Re: 2023 MLB Draft
« Reply #584 on: July 09, 2023, 01:30:17 pm »
I don’t understand the new draft rules. Do they mean that no matter how bad the Nats are this year, they can’t get a top six pick next year?
Correct. Neither can the Pirates. Its supposed to prevent teams from tanking.

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« Reply #585 on: July 09, 2023, 01:35:40 pm »
I promise to be happy tomorrow night, regardless, and am getting psyched for our second rounder.

The question there is, if Crews or Skenes are pushing for $10mill, it's going to impact later selections. We'd have to save considerable cash.

It'll be interesting to see how it plays out. We tend to go for tall, big school, college pitchers on day two, but I wonder if going that route in Rd 1 changes course.

Could definitely use an influx of arm talent. I'm kind of intrigued by some of the HS arms to get some separation in talent. Outside of Susana, we don't have that lower wave of arm talent behind the near big league ready guys like Cavalli, Rutledge, Henry, and Bennett(and possibly Skenes). I know there's Andry Lara, and I haven't given up on him, but I wouldn't count on him either.

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« Reply #586 on: July 09, 2023, 03:08:22 pm »
Correct. Neither can the Pirates. Its supposed to prevent teams from tanking.

I thought the Pirates are considered a small-market team so they will be able to pick in the top 5 two years in a row?

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« Reply #587 on: July 09, 2023, 03:13:04 pm »
I thought the Pirates are considered a small-market team so they will be able to pick in the top 5 two years in a row?

Teams that receive revenue-sharing payouts can't receive a lottery pick for more than two years in a row and those that don't can't get a top-six choice in consecutive Drafts.

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« Reply #588 on: July 09, 2023, 03:19:54 pm »
Teams that receive revenue-sharing payouts can't receive a lottery pick for more than two years in a row and those that don't can't get a top-six choice in consecutive Drafts.

So which one is the Pirates? I would have thought they'd be in the former category.

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« Reply #589 on: July 09, 2023, 03:21:55 pm »
I thought the Pirates are considered a small-market team so they will be able to pick in the top 5 two years in a row?
You’re correct.  However at this time they only have the 8th worst record so the odds are not great.

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« Reply #590 on: July 09, 2023, 03:22:43 pm »
Teams that receive revenue-sharing payouts can't receive a lottery pick for more than two years in a row and those that don't can't get a top-six choice in consecutive Drafts.
The rules just started with the 2023 draft. So the Pirates are eligible agains next year as are some other bottom feeders.

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Re: 2023 MLB Draft
« Reply #591 on: July 09, 2023, 03:24:46 pm »
The question there is, if Crews or Skenes are pushing for $10mill, it's going to impact later selections. We'd have to save considerable cash.

It'll be interesting to see how it plays out. We tend to go for tall, big school, college pitchers on day two, but I wonder if going that route in Rd 1 changes course.

Could definitely use an influx of arm talent. I'm kind of intrigued by some of the HS arms to get some separation in talent. Outside of Susana, we don't have that lower wave of arm talent behind the near big league ready guys like Cavalli, Rutledge, Henry, and Bennett(and possibly Skenes). I know there's Andry Lara, and I haven't given up on him, but I wouldn't count on him either.
Haven't we taken senior hitters to save some money and had some success? Lipscomb comes to mind,and I think there was another. Alu was a senior bat but a 24th rounder so there was no bonus pool savings.

Are there some intriguing seniors that could go in the 2d, 3d, or 4th round?

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« Reply #592 on: July 09, 2023, 03:49:19 pm »
Haven't we taken senior hitters to save some money and had some success? Lipscomb comes to mind,and I think there was another. Alu was a senior bat but a 24th rounder so there was no bonus pool savings.

Are there some intriguing seniors that could go in the 2d, 3d, or 4th round?

Lipscomb signed for slot.

I believe we've taken a number of guys from the 5-10th rounds to basically punt the pick and get savings. It's great to save 125k by punting on a 10th rounder. But in order to get to a million in savings, we'd have to punt rounds 6-10(based on alst years numbers). Of course you do get the little overage you are allowed, that will cut into that. And you can go underslot in the 3rd or 4th to save, in addition to signing that 10th rounder to 10k.

That's just why I say it'll get interesting. Well see how early they tap into savings. I'd like to think you'd still go hard and get the guy you want in the 2nd round but some savings will need to be found.

And of course, it's also possible the $10mill number is a lie to get guys past the Pirates.

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Re: 2023 MLB Draft
« Reply #593 on: July 09, 2023, 06:06:44 pm »
Teams that receive revenue-sharing payouts can't receive a lottery pick for more than two years in a row and those that don't can't get a top-six choice in consecutive Drafts.

I quoted Jim Callis explaining this.

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Beginning in 2023, the first six choices will be determined by lottery rather than by the reverse order of the previous year's standings. The teams with the three worst records from the previous season will have the best chance (16.5 percent each) to get the No. 1 overall pick via the lottery, which will include all 18 non-postseason clubs. The other teams will have declining percentages in reverse order of their records, down to 0.23 percent for the non-playoff club with the highest winning percentage.


Teams that receive revenue-sharing payouts can't receive a lottery pick for more than two years in a row and those that don't can't get a top-six choice in consecutive Drafts. Furthermore, a club that's ineligible for the lottery can't select higher than 10th overall.

Pirates could receive a lottery pick next, but not in the year after, but they are doing well enough that they might not. Same for the Tigers, and I don't know if they receive revenue sharing or not. The Philadelphia/Kansas City/Oakland/ (Las Vegas?) A's will certainly make it two years in a row.




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Re: 2023 MLB Draft
« Reply #594 on: July 09, 2023, 06:24:29 pm »
It’s an insane rule. And also we don’t have control of our market (MASN) yet are considered a major market.

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« Reply #595 on: July 09, 2023, 06:36:22 pm »
It’s an insane rule. And also we don’t have control of our market (MASN) yet are considered a major market.

Adding a draft lottery was fine. I don't like it and think it was unnecessary but find. Adding the rest of the crap they did to it is just a joke. Its as dumb as all the other crap they've added to the sport.

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Re: 2023 MLB Draft
« Reply #596 on: July 09, 2023, 06:38:08 pm »
Agreed. It’s a really hard league to follow at this point.

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Re: 2023 MLB Draft
« Reply #597 on: July 09, 2023, 06:42:21 pm »
Watching ESPN already. 2 picks, then eat.

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« Reply #598 on: July 09, 2023, 07:08:03 pm »
Looks like Skenes going number 1. Crews to DC 8)

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« Reply #599 on: July 09, 2023, 07:11:03 pm »
Looks like Skenes going number 1. Crews to DC 8)

I’d be over the moon!