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Re: Fire Dave Martinez (2018)
« Reply #1050 on: June 23, 2018, 03:37:25 pm »
dave sat down our hottest hitter today.     Called it last night.    :smh:

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Re: Fire Dave Martinez (2018)
« Reply #1051 on: June 23, 2018, 07:25:27 pm »
Hey dj keep playin that song all night on and on and on

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Re: Fire Dave Martinez (2018)
« Reply #1052 on: June 23, 2018, 08:23:31 pm »
Sit him for a few more days and it won't be a problem anymore.

dave sat down our hottest hitter today.     Called it last night.    :smh:

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Re: Fire Dave Martinez (2018)
« Reply #1053 on: June 23, 2018, 08:32:35 pm »
Hey Dave...


                   

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Re: Fire Dave Martinez (2018)
« Reply #1054 on: June 24, 2018, 02:43:33 pm »
yesterday, I wondered what he was doing trying to stretch Fedde into the 7th.  i don't buy the keep him in until he gives up a hit.  As it was, we need Madson for a whole inning anyway, only he came in with a runner already in scoring position.  Didn't matter much because Herrera had an awful 8th, but I don't think it was a good call from the get-go.   Was it trying to challenge Fedde?  maybe, but I'd let Fedde come out at after 6 with a successful start in a big division rival game.

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Re: Fire Dave Martinez (2018)
« Reply #1055 on: June 24, 2018, 03:02:15 pm »
yesterday, I wondered what he was doing trying to stretch Fedde into the 7th.  i don't buy the keep him in until he gives up a hit.  As it was, we need Madson for a whole inning anyway, only he came in with a runner already in scoring position.  Didn't matter much because Herrera had an awful 8th, but I don't think it was a good call from the get-go.   Was it trying to challenge Fedde?  maybe, but I'd let Fedde come out at after 6 with a successful start in a big division rival game.

He’s worried that the pen is going to get shredded today with Rodriguez going. The three-day stretch of Fedde, Rodriguez and Gio is going to cook the bullpen. Hopefully Jefry can get through 5 or even 6 and we get Good Gio tomorrow.

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Re: Fire Dave Martinez (2018)
« Reply #1056 on: June 24, 2018, 03:23:36 pm »
He’s worried that the pen is going to get shredded today with Rodriguez going. The three-day stretch of Fedde, Rodriguez and Gio is going to cook the bullpen. Hopefully Jefry can get through 5 or even 6 and we get Good Gio tomorrow.

If that's the case he sacrificed the game yesterday for a long shot win today.

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Re: Fire Dave Martinez (2018)
« Reply #1057 on: June 24, 2018, 04:17:14 pm »
If that's the case he sacrificed the game yesterday for a long shot win today.
on this, I agree with you.  You are down to 3 innings yesterday with 50/50 a shot at winning.  You run your big guns out on Saturday.  Those 3 I think had not pitched the day before so would have been available today, but a lot can happen to make the issue of your A bullpen's availability moot today.  You could get a big lead that you can entrust to guys like Grace and Miller who did not pitch yesterday (and Solis, who would not have pitched had the 9th not been garbage time), or you can end up behind when you would probably not be using those guys anyway.  I don't buy that sending a guy back out who has already thrown about 95 pitches makes much sense, especially if you are going to lift him upon first contact.

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Re: Fire Dave Martinez (2018)
« Reply #1058 on: June 24, 2018, 05:21:57 pm »
it was a poor decision to have Fedde come back out for the 7th

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Re: Fire Dave Martinez (2018)
« Reply #1059 on: June 26, 2018, 12:48:38 am »
Did you see the Post article from earlier this week that said that Harper is not doing the drills suggested by Long?

Maybe Harper is smarter than I thought. Other than Matt Adams, who is hitting better than their career norms?
Fire Long and keep Soto away from him until they do. Reynolds was hitting .432 with 6 HRs his first 12 games without a spring training and since then he is 3 for 43, a .070 batting average and 0 HRs. How did Long get this job? His teams have finished in the bottom half of MLB in Runs Scored and Batting Average the last 5 years. He is a swing for the fence at all times hitting coach and the Nats are not that type of team.

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Re: Fire Dave Martinez (2018)
« Reply #1060 on: June 26, 2018, 10:18:14 am »
Maybe Harper is smarter than I thought. Other than Matt Adams, who is hitting better than their career norms?
Fire Long and keep Soto away from him until they do. Reynolds was hitting .432 with 6 HRs his first 12 games without a spring training and since then he is 3 for 43, a .070 batting average and 0 HRs. How did Long get this job? His teams have finished in the bottom half of MLB in Runs Scored and Batting Average the last 5 years. He is a swing for the fence at all times hitting coach and the Nats are not that type of team.

:lmao:

"Mark Reynolds had a ridiculous, unsustainable hot streak randomly when he came up, then reverted to a huge slump, which aligns with his career norms. How could the hitting coach let this happen?!"

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Re: Fire Dave Martinez (2018)
« Reply #1061 on: June 26, 2018, 08:44:27 pm »
I’ve heard a lot of clamoring for a new hitting coach. How about a new coach? Dave Martinez is completely in over his head. He has this team on the fast track to 82-80.

Sunday was an encouraging sign. Then they respond by getting shutout back to back. I think it’s much more than just a struggling offense.

Does anybody see the focus of a contending team? Or that extra effort necessary to win a division? Or the willingness to do the little things that win ballgames?

I see a lifeless team that runs the bases like it’s little league. It’s all a reflection of the manager.

I fear Davey is losing this team much like Matt Williams. I won’t say they’ve mailed it in, but we’re dangerously close to that point.



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Re: Fire Dave Martinez (2018)
« Reply #1062 on: June 26, 2018, 09:29:29 pm »
This season is eerily similar to 2015.  All we need is for a pitcher to punch Bryce.  I'm  as "The Monkees" sang a believer and I don't easily give up hope but- Dave Martinez lost at sea. Every day a new lineup - It might be wearing on the players. Rizzo needs to make it easy for him- trade some players for a SP!

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Re: Fire Dave Martinez (2018)
« Reply #1063 on: June 27, 2018, 12:12:47 pm »
I hope Old Man Lerner* is happy with what he has created



And all the other Lerner boys and girls who voted with him to get rid of Baker

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Re: Fire Dave Martinez (2018)
« Reply #1066 on: June 27, 2018, 02:38:25 pm »
If Dave is losing the team, it's time to start losing those players. The idea that Dave is responsible for these loses is simply odd.

They aren't hitting with RISP. That's it. It's not Dave, the Rotation, or the Bullpen. It's the lineup hitting with RISP.

How many times this year have we had guys on in scoring position with less than 2 outs and haven't scored?

Christ, yesterday in the ninth we had the bases loaded with 1 out and failed to score. Turner and Taylor choked. That's not a Dave thing.

What is Dave to do? Had he subbed out Taylor and didn't score then you could say Dave F'ed up.

Dave has put the players on the field, on the mound, and in the batters box that gives us the best chance to win. He has gotten production from guys. Adams, Soto, Stevenson...

And guys who have been here for years, the same ones who can't get out of the first round regardless of who's managing aren't getting it done now. And we keep making changes for them, we keep making excuses for them.

It's cold
It's the amount of clothes they had to wear
It's the manager
It's Sendly
It's the pitching
It's the inconsistent strike zone
It's the catchers spot

When they stop choking in pressure situations offensively, they will start winning.

We have been shut out by below average pitching staffs. There may be truth to the Hitting Coach situation. But I doubt it honestly, since these guys can hit unless there are RISP.

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Re: Fire Dave Martinez (2018)
« Reply #1067 on: June 27, 2018, 08:04:02 pm »

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Re: Fire Dave Martinez (2018)
« Reply #1068 on: June 27, 2018, 08:12:18 pm »
Playoff series wins.

Davey Johnson. 0.
Matt Williams.  0
Dusty Baker. 0.
Dave Martinez. 0.

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Re: Fire Dave Martinez (2018)
« Reply #1069 on: June 27, 2018, 08:57:50 pm »
Playoff series wins.

Davey Johnson. 0.
Matt Williams.  0
Dusty Baker. 0.
Dave Martinez. 0.

Appearances
Robinson 0
Acta 0
Riggelman 0
Johnson 1
Williams 1
Baker 2

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Re: Fire Dave Martinez (2018)
« Reply #1070 on: June 27, 2018, 09:45:53 pm »
Appearances
Robinson 0
Acta 0
Riggelman 0
Johnson 1
Williams 1
Baker 2
Just imagine if Dusty had gotten Brandon Phillips to play 2B like he wanted.  :hysterical:

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Re: Fire Dave Martinez (2018)
« Reply #1071 on: June 27, 2018, 09:51:16 pm »
Stopped reading when I saw "Phillies rein" :whistle:
Should be "reign". 

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Re: Fire Dave Martinez (2018)
« Reply #1072 on: June 27, 2018, 09:57:44 pm »
Should be "reign".

Yes...and I can deal with bad Englush on Forums...I do it myself...but if you are being "published," don't be lazy...all it does is diminish the rest of what may or may not be solid work...

This was just another knee jerk opinion piece anyway, which made it even less "worthy" of being read.  Seems like everyone these days needs to have their opinion heard...   :old:

Crap...I think I just expressed an opinion...  :D

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Re: Fire Dave Martinez (2018)
« Reply #1073 on: June 27, 2018, 10:47:22 pm »
Yes...and I can deal with bad Englush on Forums...I do it myself...but if you are being "published," don't be lazy...all it does is diminish the rest of what may or may not be solid work...

This was just another knee jerk opinion piece anyway, which made it even less "worthy" of being read.  Seems like everyone these days needs to have their opinion heard...   :old:

Crap...I think I just expressed an opinion...  :D

Published? It's just a blog post, no editors or fact checkers on the payroll.

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Re: Fire Dave Martinez (2018)
« Reply #1074 on: June 28, 2018, 05:24:13 am »
I can't pin this disastrous season on Martinez, but he certainly doesn't appear to have any answers. 

We have seen Gio and Roark shrink at the absolute worst possible time.  When Strasburg went down, we needed those 2 to step up, not turtle.  How does the new pitching coach factor into that?

Eaton and Murphy being yo-yo'd gimps is not helping matters.  Are you in, or are you out?  Right now, we are caught in between with these two.

Zimmerman - I don't even know what to say.  MIA.  Yes, the spring training "experiment" was a disaster and Martinez needs to own much of that.

Turner - what if this is what he is?  I never thought he would be a better defensive player than offensive.  Was it fools gold when he was so good in 2016?

Rendon - nice player but it kills me to watch him smile on the mound after Gio got removed from the TB game after 1+ innings.  Way too laid back for my liking.

Harper - you want $400M?  Carry a team when the situation requires it.  His is not feared around the league anymore.

MAT - nice defender, but will never consistently hit .

Blame factor:  Players (70%) get the initial blame, but Martinez (30%) has done nothing to help turn things around.