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Re: Juan Soto - The Truth making it in DC this year
« Reply #675 on: September 13, 2018, 01:57:31 am »
I have no idea. Chico saying he was embarassed covering sports is interesting. Do you remember when and where he said that?

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« Reply #676 on: September 13, 2018, 09:14:50 am »
We probably have a thread about it here.

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« Reply #677 on: September 13, 2018, 09:27:18 am »
I'd be interested to read it.

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« Reply #678 on: September 13, 2018, 09:38:55 am »
I'd be interested to read it.



weren't you here under a different screen name during that time? :shrug:

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« Reply #679 on: September 13, 2018, 10:04:00 am »
He went from covering the Nationals to running the Post's East Asia bureau, according to his author page. That's an interesting jump.

weren't you here under a different screen name during that time? :shrug:

2K6nats is my guess... He wanted to make all the GDTs... when he was 13 years old.  Panther = Carolina Panthers, where he went to college or law school? He just hit 1,000 posts...

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« Reply #680 on: September 13, 2018, 10:09:49 am »
I have no idea. Chico saying he was embarassed covering sports is interesting. Do you remember when and where he said that?
i remember it too. No, sorry I don’t remember when. Didn’t endear him to fans.

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« Reply #681 on: September 13, 2018, 10:22:27 am »
2K6nats is my guess... He wanted to make all the GDTs... when he was 13 years old.  Panther = Carolina Panthers, where he went to college or law school? He just hit 1,000 posts...




I asked, jokingly, if 2K6 was back when PM was starting all the gdt's and PM answered, "no". :lol:

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« Reply #682 on: September 13, 2018, 10:42:39 am »
2K6nats is my guess... He wanted to make all the GDTs... when he was 13 years old.  Panther = Carolina Panthers, where he went to college or law school? He just hit 1,000 posts...


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« Reply #683 on: September 30, 2018, 12:56:27 pm »
Soto is headed to Japan for a couple of weeks with some other impressive players https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2018/09/30/juan-soto-says-he-is-going-join-mlb-stars-tour-japan/

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Re: Juan Soto - The Truth making it in DC this year
« Reply #684 on: September 30, 2018, 01:15:26 pm »
Bob Addie   ...   welch can explain.     :)

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« Reply #685 on: September 30, 2018, 04:10:21 pm »
Soto is headed to Japan for a couple of weeks with some other impressive players https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2018/09/30/juan-soto-says-he-is-going-join-mlb-stars-tour-japan/

Soto showing the Japanese how it's done.

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« Reply #686 on: September 30, 2018, 06:55:56 pm »
Story of the 2018 season. Awesome.

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« Reply #687 on: September 30, 2018, 09:23:04 pm »
Story of the 2018 season. Awesome.

So does he get the ROY?

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« Reply #689 on: September 30, 2018, 10:21:40 pm »
Probably Acuna

Yep. Juan would've had it had he played all year like Acuna.

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« Reply #690 on: September 30, 2018, 10:22:16 pm »
Yep. Juan would've had it had he played all year like Acuna.

This

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« Reply #691 on: September 30, 2018, 10:26:07 pm »
Soto played more games than Acuña

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« Reply #692 on: September 30, 2018, 10:28:05 pm »
Holy Soto   !!!!

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« Reply #693 on: September 30, 2018, 10:49:32 pm »
Soto played more games than Acuña

But Acuna got hurt. He was called up April 13. If Soto got called up on the same date, I do imagine he wins. Doesn’t matter though.

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« Reply #694 on: October 01, 2018, 10:48:13 pm »
Rookie of the Month for September:

http://www.masnsports.com/byron-kerr/2018/10/juan-soto-again-named-nl-rookie-of-the-month.html

Sporting News compares Acuna and Soto for ROY:

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Ronald Acuna Jr., OF, Braves

Why he's here: Acuna produced 4.1 bWAR in just 111 games in his age-20 season, which is enough of an argument by itself, but if you want something more specific, his power (26 home runs, .259 ISO, .552 slugging percentage) and speed (16 for 21 in steal attempts, an above-average 3.8 Base Running rating, per Fangraphs) are persuasive, too.

His defense is a work in progress, but he still managed 4 DRS, which put him among the top 15 NL outfielders who played at least 900 innings in 2018 (Acuna played 936).

Then there's Acuna's 80-grade swag, which means things are never dull when he's on the field. His teammates, particularly second baseman Ozzie Albies, have gravitated to him.

Acuna figures to be a core player in Atlanta for a lot of years, including the extra one the Braves manufactured by keeping him in Triple-A for the first month of the 2018 season.

Juan Soto, OF, Nationals

Why he's here: Soto wasn't the Washington rookie with the preseason hype; that was fellow outfielder Victor Robles, who was in line to earn a starting spot before suffering an elbow injury in early April. When the Nats needed to fill holes in their injury-riddled outfield in May, up came the 19-year-old Soto, who was raking at Double-A.

He kept raking in the Show and eventually was being compared to historical teen sensations Ken Griffey Jr. and Mel Ott. He finished with 22 home runs, with half of them going to the opposite field. 

Overall, Soto had the edge over Acuna in OPS (.923 to .917), wOBA (.392 to .388) and wRC+ (145-143) but was clearly behind in fielding (minus-5 DRS), and baserunning (1.9 BsR). Those latter two figures helped limit his bWAR to 2.9.

Regardless, Soto is poised to take over for Bryce Harper as Washington's top outfielder if Harper leaves as a free agent in the offseason.

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Re: Juan Soto - The Truth making it in DC this year
« Reply #695 on: October 02, 2018, 12:51:54 am »

 
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Overall, Soto had the edge over Acuna in OPS (.923 to .917), wOBA (.392 to .388) and wRC+ (145-143)

I'm with you through ops.  After that .... can you please freaking speak English.  It really takes the fun out of reading baseball articles when half of the text is Chinese.

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« Reply #696 on: October 02, 2018, 01:20:08 am »
 
I'm with you through ops.  After that .... can you please freaking speak English.  It really takes the fun out of reading baseball articles when half of the text is Chinese.

Think wOBA is like OBP, but weights for events (ie, a home run is better than a single is better than a walk).  wRC+ is basically wOBA, but standardized to include park effects and set so that 100 is average. So if you have a wRC+ of 147 your offensive production is 47 percent above average. So it’s a good way to compare Trevor Story to Trea Turner taking Coors into account.

Just for reference the stats that have “+” behind them (ERA+, OPS+) are the same as the stated stat but standardized for park factors and adjusted so that 100 is average. I love them for comparisons between players that play in different parks and because the give me reference as to how a guy compares to average.  It’s still hard for me to look at an OPS of .845 and know what that means. I still use the traditional stats, but the new ones are helpful when used in combo.

For reference Mike Trout has a wRC+ of 191 and Jacob deGrom has an ERA+ of 212

EDIT: I apologize if you didn’t want this explanation or didn’t find it useful.


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Re: Juan Soto - The Truth making it in DC this year
« Reply #697 on: October 02, 2018, 08:59:14 am »
Think wOBA is like OBP, but weights for events (ie, a home run is better than a single is better than a walk).  wRC+ is basically wOBA, but standardized to include park effects and set so that 100 is average. So if you have a wRC+ of 147 your offensive production is 47 percent above average. So it’s a good way to compare Trevor Story to Trea Turner taking Coors into account.

Just for reference the stats that have “+” behind them (ERA+, OPS+) are the same as the stated stat but standardized for park factors and adjusted so that 100 is average. I love them for comparisons between players that play in different parks and because the give me reference as to how a guy compares to average.  It’s still hard for me to look at an OPS of .845 and know what that means. I still use the traditional stats, but the new ones are helpful when used in combo.

For reference Mike Trout has a wRC+ of 191 and Jacob deGrom has an ERA+ of 212

EDIT: I apologize if you didn’t want this explanation or didn’t find it useful.


Just tell me his average and RBIs and GTFO my lawn.

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Re: Juan Soto - The Truth making it in DC this year
« Reply #698 on: October 02, 2018, 09:09:43 am »
 :oldy:

And pitcher wins.


Just tell me his average and RBIs and GTFO my lawn.

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« Reply #699 on: October 02, 2018, 09:39:48 am »
Bluestreak, you said wOBP weights a home run more than a single. But doesn’t OPS already do that by using slugging percentage?  Just seems easier to me focus on OPS.  MLB average is about .770. Just go from there. It’s like when we just focused on batting average. .250-.275 was ok. Over .300 very good.