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Offline NJ Ave

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Re: Can Juan Soto make it to DC this year?
« Reply #25 on: May 14, 2018, 12:09:11 pm »
He's not nearly as big as either of those guys (although Ramirez was around Soto's size when he came up) and moves much better than either of them.  He's not a big oaf - in fact, one of my concerns about potentially moving him to 1B is that he's a little small for the position.  He's not actually that big of a guy at all - listed at 6'1"/185, which seems about right from seeing him in person.  The defense is ok, not "atrocious" in any respect. 

Right, also from a batting point WMP is just an awful comp. WMP struck out excessively (>30% even in low minors) and didn't draw walks (5% or so). Juan Soto is not a 40 hit/80 power wildcard.

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Re: Can Juan Soto make it to DC this year?
« Reply #26 on: May 14, 2018, 12:45:22 pm »
Like I said, Wily Mo is the bad end of the scale.  He was a real-life Pedro Cerrano.  "I can no hit curve ball. Straight ball, I hit it very much" 

I wasn't comparing Soto to those two because of his size, it's because he's a one dimensional left fielder from the Dominican.

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« Reply #27 on: May 14, 2018, 02:53:06 pm »
Like I said, Wily Mo is the bad end of the scale.  He was a real-life Pedro Cerrano.  "I can no hit curve ball. Straight ball, I hit it very much" 

I wasn't comparing Soto to those two because of his size, it's because he's a one dimensional left fielder from the Dominican.

That's sort of like trying to compare Shelby Miller to Roger Clemens and Homer Bailey because he's a hard-throwing right-handed pitcher from Texas.  Go right ahead if you'd like to do that, but I doubt I'm the only one who'd find such a comparison to have little value.

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Re: Can Juan Soto make it to DC this year?
« Reply #28 on: May 14, 2018, 03:21:31 pm »
I've been keeping tabs on him ( curiosity I guess) and after a terrific start in Harrisburg he has gone hitless . Yesterdays double header he was 0-5 and batting .143.

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Re: Can Juan Soto make it to DC this year?
« Reply #29 on: May 14, 2018, 03:27:05 pm »
you could take the metro to Bowie. Get off at New Carrolton and the stadium is a 13 dollar uber ride. its like 10 mins from the station all highway

Offline CoryTheFormerExposFan

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Re: Can Juan Soto make it to DC this year?
« Reply #30 on: May 14, 2018, 04:16:28 pm »
In my perfect world, Eaton returns in July and stays healthy the rest of the year in LF.  Robles also returns sometime in the summer, dominates AAA, then replaces MAT in CF sometime in August and is a clear upgrade.  If Robles had never gotten hurt, he probably already is playing everyday in DC.  Tough break there.  Soto can be brought along slowly this year in the minors, we win the World Series, Bryce resigns, then next year we start the season with Eaton in LF, Robles in CF, Harper in RF, and Soto waiting in the wings. 

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Re: Can Juan Soto make it to DC this year?
« Reply #31 on: May 14, 2018, 04:25:20 pm »
That's sort of like trying to compare Shelby Miller to Roger Clemens and Homer Bailey because he's a hard-throwing right-handed pitcher from Texas.  Go right ahead if you'd like to do that, but I doubt I'm the only one who'd find such a comparison to have little value.

Pitchers are supposed to do one thing well - throw pitches.  Anything else is a bonus. 

Outfielders are supposed to do 4-5 things well.  Wily Mo did one (hit), Manny did one (hit).  However, Manny hit well enough that watching him wander around in left field picking his nose was an acceptable trade off.  With Wily Mo, he didn't get on base enough to overcome the fact that his defensive skills were high school level. 


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Re: Can Juan Soto make it to DC this year?
« Reply #32 on: May 14, 2018, 04:27:19 pm »
you could take the metro to Bowie. Get off at New Carrolton and the stadium is a 13 dollar uber ride. its like 10 mins from the station all highway
Last time I went to  Bowie (and it was before the Nats existed) there was ample free parking.

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Re: Can Juan Soto make it to DC this year?
« Reply #33 on: May 14, 2018, 09:41:47 pm »
I've been keeping tabs on him ( curiosity I guess) and after a terrific start in Harrisburg he has gone hitless . Yesterdays double header he was 0-5 and batting .143.

Meh. 4 walks and 2 Ks in 18 PA. BABIP SCHMABIP.

Offline Elvir Ovcina

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Re: Can Juan Soto make it to DC this year?
« Reply #34 on: May 15, 2018, 09:01:38 am »
Pitchers are supposed to do one thing well - throw pitches.  Anything else is a bonus. 

Outfielders are supposed to do 4-5 things well.  Wily Mo did one (hit), Manny did one (hit).  However, Manny hit well enough that watching him wander around in left field picking his nose was an acceptable trade off.  With Wily Mo, he didn't get on base enough to overcome the fact that his defensive skills were high school level.

Saying "pitchers are supposed to do one thing well - throw pitches" is like saying "hitters are supposed to do one thing well - hit."  That doesn't mesh with your apparent realization that Wily Mo couldn't hit breaking balls, tacitly acknowledging that hitting is more than one skill.  There's a lot more to pitching than "throwing pitches," and that's what makes up the difference between Roger Clemens and Homer Bailey.

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Re: Can Juan Soto make it to DC this year?
« Reply #35 on: May 20, 2018, 07:23:27 am »
We have the answer. Welcome to DC

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Re: Can Juan Soto make it to DC this year?
« Reply #36 on: May 20, 2018, 08:49:26 am »
New discussion: Can Juan Soto STAY in DC this Summer?

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Re: Can Juan Soto make it to DC this year?
« Reply #37 on: May 20, 2018, 09:14:11 am »
So where will Soto play?

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Re: Can Juan Soto make it to DC this year?
« Reply #38 on: May 20, 2018, 09:19:11 am »
So where will Soto play?

LF. Adam's will be 1B full time until Zimmerman gets back

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Re: Can Juan Soto make it to DC this year?
« Reply #39 on: May 20, 2018, 09:51:45 am »
LF. Adam's will be 1B full time until Zimmerman gets back

I'd rather see Reynolds at first and Adams in left, even after Zim regains his health.

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Re: Can Juan Soto make it to DC this year?
« Reply #40 on: May 20, 2018, 10:36:33 am »
Is it Soto to start LF and Stevenson as a defensive replacement?

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Re: Can Juan Soto make it to DC this year?
« Reply #41 on: May 20, 2018, 10:39:00 am »
Its obviously fun. But I can't believe they didn't call up Yadiel Hernandez instead. Maybe they want him up so they can see what they've got before Harper is a free agent to get some leverage.

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Re: Can Juan Soto make it to DC this year?
« Reply #42 on: May 20, 2018, 10:54:40 am »
:wtf:

Last night aside, the Nats have been winning games. Hard to call this a panic move, but it does seem strange.

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Re: Can Juan Soto make it to DC this year?
« Reply #43 on: May 20, 2018, 11:02:59 am »
Its obviously fun. But I can't believe they didn't call up Yadiel Hernandez instead. Maybe they want him up so they can see what they've got before Harper is a free agent to get some leverage.
I'm thinking it is more like the Robles promotion of last year and giving him a taste of the show until Goodwin comes back or he continues his trajectory and sticks.

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Re: Can Juan Soto make it to DC this year?
« Reply #44 on: May 20, 2018, 11:10:35 am »
its not a panic move.  the kid will rake anywhere.  HOF, 3,000+ hits, calling it now

Offline sph274

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Re: Can Juan Soto make it to DC this year?
« Reply #45 on: May 20, 2018, 11:26:29 am »
Does he start today?

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Re: Can Juan Soto make it to DC this year?
« Reply #46 on: May 20, 2018, 11:42:33 am »
Does he start today?

No. Adams is in left.

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Re: Can Juan Soto make it to DC this year?
« Reply #47 on: May 20, 2018, 02:37:59 pm »
HATE the circumstances for him coming up.  Howie has been awesome and such a valuable member of the team.  However, it's very exciting to see Soto in a Nats uniform.  We'll see how quickly he can adjust to this level and produce.  If he's overmatched, then it gives him a baseline to learn from and go back to the minors and improve.  If he can produce, then that's one less hole on the roster. 

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Re: Can Juan Soto make it to DC this year?
« Reply #48 on: May 20, 2018, 02:40:05 pm »
Zuck notes Soto was 13 when Harper made his debut.

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Re: Can Juan Soto make it to DC this year?
« Reply #49 on: May 20, 2018, 02:45:19 pm »
Zuck notes Soto was 13 when Harper made his debut.

Zuck must not have gone to Pittsburgh schools...