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« Reply #625 on: August 19, 2018, 07:32:58 am »
And some mocked my YNOT prediction of the bullpen giving up 75 runs during this home stand....

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« Reply #626 on: August 19, 2018, 09:07:26 am »
And some mocked my YNOT prediction of the bullpen giving up 75 runs during this home stand....

I didn’t mock it. I merely questioned your sanity like I do in most of your posts.  :mg:

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« Reply #627 on: August 19, 2018, 09:32:06 am »
What's to like about Glover? "Iffy" control at best and far too many of his pitches end up over the heart of the plate.

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« Reply #628 on: August 19, 2018, 09:33:27 am »
What's to like about Glover? "Iffy" control at best and far too many of his pitches end up over the heart of the plate.

But he's got swag that everyone on WNFF seems to like.

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« Reply #629 on: August 19, 2018, 09:47:13 am »
But he's got swag that everyone on WNFF seems to like.

Yeah, Santangelo says "he looks like a closer."  I'd rather he look like Howdy Doody and perform like we wish he could.

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« Reply #630 on: August 19, 2018, 10:03:05 am »
What's to like about Glover? "Iffy" control at best and far too many of his pitches end up over the heart of the plate.
Young. Has a chance to get better. Only closing because three other relievers are on the DL.

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« Reply #631 on: August 19, 2018, 10:25:36 am »
I didn’t mock it. I merely questioned your sanity like I do in most of your posts.  :mg:

make the bullpen great again!

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« Reply #632 on: August 19, 2018, 11:55:08 am »
Sure glad that we got rid of Kintzler and Kelley at the same time that Doolittle was out and replaced them with total bums like Koda Glover when we're trying to make a run at the division.

Grade-A job by Rizzo on that front.  Getting rid of a guy with a near-sub 3.00 ERA because he threw his glove down.

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« Reply #633 on: August 19, 2018, 12:09:29 pm »
Sure glad that we got rid of Kintzler and Kelley at the same time that Doolittle was out and replaced them with total bums like Koda Glover when we're trying to make a run at the division.

Grade-A job by Rizzo on that front.  Getting rid of a guy with a near-sub 3.00 ERA because he threw his glove down.

Did you watch Kintzler pitch against us?  Since joining the Cubs he has a 3.38 ERA and opponents are batting .286 vs him.  He's walked 5 in 5.1 IP.

Since we traded him to Oakland, Kelley has thrown a grand total of 2.2 IP though he hasn't allowed a run in that span.

They weren't exactly dominating pitchers when we had them, and Suero has been better than either.   

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« Reply #634 on: August 19, 2018, 12:18:32 pm »
Did you watch Kintzler pitch against us?  Since joining the Cubs he has a 3.38 ERA and opponents are batting .286 vs him.  He's walked 5 in 5.1 IP.

Since we traded him to Oakland, Kelley has thrown a grand total of 2.2 IP though he hasn't allowed a run in that span.

They weren't exactly dominating pitchers when we had them, and Suero has been better than either.

Kelley had a .50 aLI with the Nats. Which means he sucked in high leverage situations. His season usage was overwhelmingly in low leverage innings. As you know not all stats are equal.


The opposition had a 1.333 OPS against him in high leverage at bats.

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« Reply #635 on: August 19, 2018, 12:42:38 pm »
Kelley had a .50 aLI with the Nats. Which means he sucked in high leverage situations. His season usage was overwhelmingly in low leverage innings. As you know not all stats are equal.


The opposition had a 1.333 OPS against him in high leverage at bats.

Thank you.  A metric that equals the eye test which I employ almost exclusively. I’m curious what Madison’s is as quite frankly I think he is done.

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« Reply #636 on: August 19, 2018, 12:58:40 pm »
Thank you.  A metric that equals the eye test which I employ almost exclusively. I’m curious what Madison’s is as quite frankly I think he is done.
They are struggling now because Doolittle and Herrera are out.  Kelley and Kintzler were not going to replace them.  Madson is a step above those guys but slipping.  He will not be back. 

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« Reply #637 on: August 19, 2018, 01:04:14 pm »
Bullpens are fragile. Take out the strongest guy and they fall apart. Dodgers have had a rough time with Jansen out (and struggling a bit when he’s been in) including a balk off last night (possibly the only thing worse than a walk off grand slam against you). The Mariners pen would be trash without Diaz. It really shouldn’t be any surprise that our bullpen sucks without Dooo, Herrera and the shell of Madson.

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« Reply #638 on: August 19, 2018, 01:16:07 pm »
They are struggling now because Doolittle and Herrera are out.  Kelley and Kintzler were not going to replace them.  Madson is a step above those guys but slipping.  He will not be back. 
Bullpens are fragile. Take out the strongest guy and they fall apart. Dodgers have had a rough time with Jansen out (and struggling a bit when he’s been in) including a balk off last night (possibly the only thing worse than a walk off grand slam against you). The Mariners pen would be trash without Diaz. It really shouldn’t be any surprise that our bullpen sucks without Dooo, Herrera and the shell of Madson.

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« Reply #639 on: August 19, 2018, 01:42:33 pm »
I am afraid of relishing the Dodgers balking in the balk off run too much because I don’t want our bullpen to see that as a challenge.

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« Reply #640 on: August 19, 2018, 03:10:55 pm »
I am afraid of relishing the Dodgers balking in the balk off run too much because I don’t want our bullpen to see that as a challenge.

 :spit: A "Hold my beer" moment...  :D

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« Reply #641 on: August 19, 2018, 03:12:37 pm »
Look at his ERA splits...

True, but that's do to the slugging and OPS part of it. More often than not he gets righties out more than lefties.

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« Reply #642 on: August 19, 2018, 03:13:51 pm »
I am afraid of relishing the Dodgers balking in the balk off run too much because I don’t want our bullpen to see that as a challenge.

Gio's got your back

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« Reply #643 on: August 19, 2018, 03:16:33 pm »
Gio's got your back

F’in Gio. Here I am at a beer festival where I should be not paying attention to baseball and now I a.m. completely fixated by this train wreck. Sigh.

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« Reply #644 on: August 19, 2018, 03:17:44 pm »
That's this season. His career shows a entirely different story. Until he can repeat his 2018 splits consistently, I'll trust his career numbers.

Fair enough. Should be pointed out though that he has been really good when going 2+ innings this season.

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« Reply #645 on: August 19, 2018, 03:18:46 pm »
F’in Gio. Here I am at a beer festival where I should be not paying attention to baseball and now I a.m. completely fixated by this train wreck. Sigh.

Where is the beer festival?

Thinking of taking my son-in-law up to the Guinness brewery when the demand for tour tickets subsides.

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« Reply #646 on: August 19, 2018, 03:23:08 pm »
Where is the beer festival?

Thinking of taking my son-in-law up to the Guinness brewery when the demand for tour tickets subsides.

Ivy City, at City Winery, which is a really nice venue. Good beer selection today, nice music, reasonable ticket price. There is another beer festival in this neighborhood next weekend as part of DC Beer Week; I’ll post the info later ‘cause my phone is dumb.

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« Reply #647 on: August 19, 2018, 03:25:25 pm »
Ivy City, at City Winery, which is a really nice venue. Good beer selection today, nice music, reasonable ticket price. There is another beer festival in this neighborhood next weekend as part of DC Beer Week; I’ll post the info later ‘cause my phone is dumb.

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We're going to Mamma Lucia's in Bethesda for lunch next Sunday...might be able to talk the attendees into hitting that as well...

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Re: 2018 bullpen
« Reply #649 on: August 20, 2018, 02:16:40 pm »
I mean, the ump called time, he just pulled the chute. Tanner did that in KC a couple years ago. Same situation.