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The NL East winner will be (votes close 9/1):

Barves
15 (46.9%)
Phillies
6 (18.8%)
Nats
5 (15.6%)
Mets
2 (6.3%)
do the Marlins still count?
4 (12.5%)

Total Members Voted: 32

Voting closed: September 01, 2018, 02:36:33 pm

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Offline HalfSmokes

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Re: NL East (2018)
« Reply #275 on: May 08, 2018, 12:11:55 pm »
I had to laugh when the yankee fans were booing Stanton so bad by the second week of the season when he hit two home runs on opening day. It's very rare for a Nat to get booed at Nats park. I like that. Maybe some free agent players to be should think about that before they jump.

A nats player has to be storenesque in the timing and frequency of their failures to get booed here

Offline aspenbubba

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Re: NL East (2018)
« Reply #276 on: May 08, 2018, 12:35:41 pm »
I had to laugh when the yankee fans were booing Stanton so bad by the second week of the season when he hit two home runs on opening day. It's very rare for a Nat to get booed at Nats park. I like that. Maybe some free agent players to be should think about that before they jump.
Well, I came close with Cole, Adams ( the pitcher) and now Torres is in my radar

Offline Greg_SRT

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Re: NL East (2018)
« Reply #277 on: May 08, 2018, 12:46:34 pm »
Signing with a new team for hella money puts a target on you, even for home team fans.

Offline Ray D

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Re: NL East (2018)
« Reply #278 on: May 08, 2018, 01:05:40 pm »
I had to laugh when the yankee fans were booing Stanton so bad by the second week of the season when he hit two home runs on opening day. It's very rare for a Nat to get booed at Nats park. I like that. Maybe some free agent players to be should think about that before they jump.
Only those players with obscenely huge contracts get booed, and only if they don't produce, and its only Yankee fans that boo; I can't think of another fan base.  Yet, players still want to play for the Yankees.  I guess if you are a star the magnitude of Stanton, fan friendliness is not going to be any factor whatsoever in your decision who to sign with. And given their huge egos, they assume they are going to produce, so the possibility of being booed is not a concern.

Offline dracnal

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« Reply #279 on: May 08, 2018, 01:08:09 pm »
Only those players with obscenely huge contracts get booed, and only if they don't produce, and its only Yankee fans that boo; I can't think of another fan base.  Yet, players still want to play for the Yankees.  I guess if you are a star the magnitude of Stanton, fan friendliness is not going to be any factor whatsoever in your decision who to sign with. And given their huge egos, they assume they are going to produce, so the possibility of being booed is not a concern.

I've seen the Mets and Phillies boo their own. I would not be surprised to learn Red Sox fans have been known to do so.

Offline dcpatti

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« Reply #280 on: May 08, 2018, 01:16:58 pm »
I've seen the Mets and Phillies boo their own. I would not be surprised to learn Red Sox fans have been known to do so.

Watching the Mets fans boo Matt Harvey was really sad, especially because it was before the partying got out of control (or at least highly visible) and he'd only been sucking for about 3 starts. 

Offline varoadking

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« Reply #281 on: May 08, 2018, 01:21:33 pm »
A nats player has to be storenesque in the timing and frequency of their failures to get booed here

Dan Haren...

Offline Baseball is Life

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« Reply #282 on: May 08, 2018, 01:30:32 pm »
Not a fan of fans booing their home team. Not at all. Yeah, I know they pay and have a right to do so...

And don't even get me started on visiting fans booing players in their home park.

I've seen Cubs fans mercilessly boo their own back in the day.

Offline Optics

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« Reply #283 on: May 08, 2018, 01:38:27 pm »
I don't believe you ever boo your own guys unless there is CLEARLY a lack of effort(see: Albert Haynesworth on the Skins, or Jaromir Jagr on the Caps). If they're trying their best and sucking, your booing isn't going to help them. Cheer them on and help get them back on track.

Offline dcpatti

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« Reply #284 on: May 08, 2018, 01:42:06 pm »
I don't believe you ever boo your own guys unless there is CLEARLY a lack of effort(see: Albert Haynesworth on the Skins, or Jaromir Jagr on the Caps). If they're trying their best and sucking, your booing isn't going to help them. Cheer them on and help get them back on track.

Agreed, although I make exceptions for domestic abusers.  I'll boo the crap out of a domestic abuser, even if he's got a .400 batting average.

Offline GburgNatsFan

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« Reply #285 on: May 08, 2018, 01:44:10 pm »
I feel free to groan when things don't go well. But I don't boo.

Offline mitlen

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« Reply #286 on: May 08, 2018, 01:46:33 pm »
I feel free to groan when things don't go well. But I don't boo.

That's me as well.    I usually accompany the groan with a hands up, dismissive wave toward the player and my expletive of the day.

Offline GburgNatsFan

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« Reply #287 on: May 08, 2018, 02:06:56 pm »
That's me as well.    I usually accompany the groan with a hands up, dismissive wave toward the player and my expletive of the day.

Just like that.

Offline NatsAllThe Way

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Re: NL East (2018)
« Reply #288 on: May 08, 2018, 02:12:13 pm »
I don't believe you ever boo your own guys unless there is CLEARLY a lack of effort(see: Albert Haynesworth on the Skins, or Jaromir Jagr on the Caps). If they're trying their best and sucking, your booing isn't going to help them. Cheer them on and help get them back on track.

Jagr?  Really?  That's suprising.

Offline aspenbubba

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« Reply #289 on: May 08, 2018, 02:23:10 pm »
We didn't boo FLop?

Offline Count Walewski

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« Reply #290 on: May 08, 2018, 02:31:39 pm »
I think when most fans boo a player on their team, they're not necessarily wishing ill on that player, they're complaining that said player is still on the team or is being used in that situation.

In Chicago I once saw Ozzie Guillen get booed as he walked to the mound to take a popular relief pitcher out of the game (Bobby Jenks, back when he was a newly-called-up prospect being eased into the bullpen). Gotta be an ego boost for a young man to hear a crowd boo the manager for taking you out.

Offline hotshot

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Re: NL East (2018)
« Reply #291 on: May 08, 2018, 02:50:30 pm »
Mickey Mantle was booed very heavily in Yankee Stadium for his strikeouts with men on base. From 1958-60, he struck out over 120 times each season which, back then, was a lot. Around 650 AB in all those years so his K rate by today's standard would've made him a contact hitter nowadays.

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Re: NL East (2018)
« Reply #292 on: May 08, 2018, 03:51:03 pm »
I heard boos for Austin Adams when he walked in that run.

Offline Ray D

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« Reply #293 on: May 08, 2018, 03:57:50 pm »
Mickey Mantle was booed very heavily in Yankee Stadium for his strikeouts with men on base. From 1958-60, he struck out over 120 times each season which, back then, was a lot.
I remember Mantle well from the 50s and 60s, and there was a faction of Yankee fans that disliked him (bordering on hate) for no rational reason other than jealousy - jealous because he was handsome, talented, and got all the girls.  Ironically, the fans hate turned to Maris when he came along and particularly so in 61 because he was challenging Ruth's record, and Mantle then because every Yankee fan's favorite.

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« Reply #294 on: May 08, 2018, 06:35:13 pm »
Matt Harvey has been traded to the Reds for catcher Devin Mesoraco and cash.

Mesoraco has been a Red (majors and minors)  since 2007 and slashed .234/.309/.405   over his 8 years in the big leagues.  Depth move for the Mets, which will surely anger fans who thought they were gonna get Realmuto for Harvey.

Offline mitlen

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« Reply #295 on: May 08, 2018, 06:35:42 pm »
Matt Harvey has been traded to the Reds for catcher Devin Mesoraco and cash.

Mesoraco has been a Red (majors and minors)  since 2007 and slashed .234/.309/.405   over his 8 years in the big leagues.

Pretty even trade.    :)

Offline dcpatti

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« Reply #296 on: May 08, 2018, 06:36:51 pm »
Pretty even trade.    :)

Which team gets the ham sandwich?

Offline imref

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« Reply #297 on: May 08, 2018, 07:04:56 pm »
Mesoraco has been hurt a lot. Saw him in 2017 in Pensacola where he was rehabbing.

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Re: NL East (2018)
« Reply #298 on: May 08, 2018, 07:05:10 pm »
I'm surprised they got that much for Harvey

Offline aspenbubba

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« Reply #299 on: May 08, 2018, 07:19:43 pm »
I'm surprised they got that much for Harvey
Plus taking on the remainder of his 5.5 Mil salary They should have waited until he hit FA as I imagine there would only be a few teams pursuing him.