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Offline Greg_SRT

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Re: What to trade for?
« Reply #250 on: June 21, 2018, 04:09:19 pm »
So you're walking that one back? :lmao: At least you cast the blame on dumb ass phillie fans. (nice touch to throw in your little girl to add credibility to your story ;))

I'm not walking it back. Is a troll really above me?

It's a critter camp from 9 to noon where she goes outside and plays with bugs. She comes home and is then scared of them again lol

FYI I live North Delaware. I get a mix of Baltimore, Philly, DC, NY fans. I haven't met a smart one yet.

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Re: What to trade for?
« Reply #251 on: June 21, 2018, 04:14:55 pm »
Why do people keep talking about Castro's deal like it's some sort of albatross? It's basically the remainder of this year's 10 million, next year's 11 million, and a 1 million buyout if you don't want him after that. I mean, that' snot great, but it's not horrid either. It's certainly not enough to make Kieboom, Antuna, or Luis Garcia untouchable.

I agree with this. Scary as that may be.  :rofl:

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« Reply #252 on: June 21, 2018, 04:45:01 pm »
Kieboom is not as far away as you make it seem. 2020 is a real possibility. he is killing high A now. I wouldnt want to give him up because he seems like he is a real 30HR power threat.

And he just got promoted to AA today.

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Re: What to trade for?
« Reply #253 on: June 21, 2018, 04:47:12 pm »
There is so much more to catching than being able to catch pitches and throw out runners.  But that's pretty much all you need to do at the high school level and I'm sure that's all Harper knows about catching.  There are reasons Rizzo switched him out of the catcher position.   One (the one given) is to better shield him from injury.  The more important reason is that he would have needed an extra two or three years in the minors learning the position and they wanted him up sooner.  This idea of moving Harper to catcher, really, it's nonsense.

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Re: What to trade for?
« Reply #254 on: June 21, 2018, 04:58:18 pm »
I like severino. I thought he should start even before Matt got hurt. I understand my opinion is biased tho.

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Re: What to trade for?
« Reply #255 on: June 21, 2018, 05:09:38 pm »
Severino is a backup

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Re: What to trade for?
« Reply #256 on: June 21, 2018, 05:12:35 pm »
Over Matt... it could go either way. Matt hasn’t been a better bat then Sev in over a year.

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Re: What to trade for?
« Reply #257 on: June 21, 2018, 05:41:41 pm »
Over Matt... it could go either way. Matt hasn’t been a better bat then Sev in over a year.

No one argues that Wieters is junk, but Severino offensively is even worse. Defensively, Severino is way better than Wieters, but still, neither are answers as starting catchers.

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« Reply #258 on: June 21, 2018, 05:55:07 pm »
No one argues that Wieters is junk, but Severino offensively is even worse. Defensively, Severino is way better than Wieters, but still, neither are answers as starting catchers.

Lucroy is out there. Hitting .250 and not for power. FA next year so a rental. And we've done business with the A's.

He's not the answer.

I just don't think we should sell the farm for JT.

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Re: What to trade for?
« Reply #259 on: June 21, 2018, 06:00:03 pm »
I want Ramos back. Should not cost much and he's a rental too.

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« Reply #260 on: June 21, 2018, 06:04:16 pm »
I thought about Ramos too.

Honestly I’m just trying to enjoy the season. Got to make fun when their slumping tho.

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Re: What to trade for?
« Reply #261 on: June 21, 2018, 07:28:59 pm »
And at the College of Southern Nevada.  And while we are finding positions for Bryce, he also pitched an inning, giving up only 1 unearned run. 

Which is a community college. Which is basically high school

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Re: What to trade for?
« Reply #262 on: June 21, 2018, 07:46:07 pm »
Joe Ross!

Boy, did Joe Ross turn out to be fool's gold or what? Off that impressive first season with the Nats.

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Re: What to trade for?
« Reply #263 on: June 21, 2018, 07:47:49 pm »
Greg - the idea of Realmuto and Castro makes a lot of sense if Castro's contract knocks the price down to the tier below Soto/ robles / Kieboom/ Antuna and Luis Garcia.  I'd be willing to put in one of Crowe, Fedde, or Rodriguez if it closes the deal.

Realmuto controlled through 2020 I think. Castro's bat would help.

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Re: What to trade for?
« Reply #264 on: June 21, 2018, 08:19:59 pm »
Which is a community college. Which is basically high school

 :hysterical:

Don't admit you were wrong, that would be showing weakness.

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Re: What to trade for?
« Reply #265 on: June 21, 2018, 08:25:10 pm »
:hysterical:

Don't admit you were wrong, that would be showing weakness.

He's right you know...it's like Marines are the same as Sailors...

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Re: What to trade for?
« Reply #266 on: June 21, 2018, 08:38:49 pm »
He's right you know...it's like Marines are the same as Sailors...

I have two brothers who served in the Marines, I sometimes have to remind them about how they were a very useful auxiliary force that the Navy could deploy as needed.

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Re: What to trade for?
« Reply #267 on: June 21, 2018, 08:41:39 pm »
I have two brothers who served in the Marines, I sometimes have to remind them about how they were a very useful auxiliary force that the Navy could deploy as needed.

 :lol:

Have to question "useful", but yeah...

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Re: What to trade for?
« Reply #268 on: June 21, 2018, 09:19:52 pm »
He's right you know...it's like Marines are the same as Sailors...
Yea except some are men and the others are worthless

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Re: What to trade for?
« Reply #269 on: June 21, 2018, 10:36:56 pm »
Boy, did Joe Ross turn out to be fool's gold or what? Off that impressive first season with the Nats.
how so, he got hurt. he was not as good the 2nd year but I have plenty of faith he will be a good pitcher in the league.

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« Reply #270 on: June 21, 2018, 10:38:18 pm »
And he just got promoted to AA today.

Hit a HR in his first AA game. Only run Harrisburg scored.

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Re: What to trade for?
« Reply #271 on: June 22, 2018, 09:25:15 am »
So you're walking that one back? :lmao: At least you cast the blame on dumb ass phillie fans. (nice touch to throw in your little girl to add credibility to your story ;))
A strategic retreat is an underrated move on WNFF. I am impressed.

Offline Greg_SRT

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Re: What to trade for?
« Reply #272 on: June 22, 2018, 10:08:07 am »
I was going to go as far as to say would Difo be worse than Matt was in Game 5 NLDS. But no one really bit on Difo, immediately talked Harper. And I decided to grill and get in the pool before game time. But a lot of thought went into this, but understand that it was in good fun.

Even if I was serious, it still wouldn’t be a worse idea than a number on this site including firing Dave and rehiring Baker mid season. Or trading Harper. And those are serious lol.


Offline CoryTheFormerExposFan

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Re: What to trade for?
« Reply #273 on: June 22, 2018, 02:56:48 pm »
From MLBTR

In a surprisingly candid interview with Jim Bowden of MLB Network Radio on SiriusXM (Twitter link, with audio), Nationals general manager Mike Rizzo largely quashed rumors and speculation that have tied his team to star Marlins catcher J.T. Realmuto. According to Rizzo, the Nationals touched base with the Marlins on Realmuto’s availability but haven’t really circled back this season.

“They’ve got a great player in Realmuto,” said Rizzo. “They’re not going to sell him cheap. We know what the return has to be on Realmuto, and we’re not willing to meet that price. So unless something changes there, on their end, we’re going to go with [Matt] Wieters when he gets healthy and a combination of [Pedro] Severino and [Spencer] Kieboom to back him up.”

Washington’s offseason interest in Realmuto was reported on at length over the winter. Multiple offseason reports suggested that the Marlins asked the Nats for a package headlined by one of their two most-coveted outfield prospects, Victor Robles or Juan Soto, the latter of whom has exploded onto the scene in the Majors at the age of 19. Robles, meanwhile, has missed much of the season with a hyperextended elbow but is still considered by may to be among the game’s 10 best prospects.

While that’s a lofty asking price, to be sure, it’s also not difficult to see why the Marlins would hold Realmuto in such high regard. The 27-year-old batted .290/.337/.440 in 1124 plate appearances from 2016-17 and has taken his offensive game to new heights in 2018, raking at a .297/.355/.524 pace (143 OPS+, 140 wRC+). After missing nearly a month with a minor lower back injury early in the season, Realmuto has already belted nine homers, 15 doubles and three triples in just 232 plate appearances.

Beyond his offensive prowess, Realmuto is considered a strong defensive catcher. He’s thrown out 11 of the 26 runners who’ve attempted to steal against him for a career-best 42 percent caught-stealing rate, and he generally rates as an above-average pitch framer and pitch blocker, per Baseball Prospectus. Furthermore, and perhaps most importantly when assessing his trade value, he is eminently affordable from a financial standpoint and can be controlled through the 2020 season. Realmuto is earning $2.9MM in his first year of arbitration eligibility and will be eligible twice more before reaching free agency in the 2020-21 offseason.

Catcher was the Nationals’ most glaring need in the offseason, but the team did surprisingly little to address the deficiency outside of a minor league deal for veteran Miguel Montero, who was quickly released after cracking the Opening Day roster. To Wieters’ credit, he looked to be in the midst of a potential rebound at the plate after a last year’s dreary .225/.288/.344 slash; through a small sample of 76 PAs early in 2018, Wieters hit .231/.342/.385 with three homers and vastly improved strikeout and walk rates. But, he’s now been on the shelf since May 11 due to a hamstring injury that required surgery.

There are other catching options on the trade market, of course. Wilson Ramos’ name figures to be oft-mentioned on the rumor circuit as the deadline approaches, and the Mets would presumably be open to flipping recently acquired Devin Mesoraco when they inevitably begin to trade veteran pieces. Other speculative options include Robinson Chirinos and Francisco Cervelli. Blake Swihart, too, will be a rumored possibility, though it’s more difficult to see a contending club acquiring him and immediately inserting him into a regular role behind the plate when he’s scarcely played there in 2018.

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Re: What to trade for?
« Reply #274 on: June 22, 2018, 03:26:05 pm »
Rizzo saying their going with Wieters tells me he's close-ish to returning.