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Offline deeznatz

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Re: Fire Matt Williams! (2015) - Standard Decision.
« Reply #1275 on: August 21, 2015, 03:59:55 pm »
Second base. Or he is just up to get his fee wet so he's good to go at SS for next year.

They're not calling him up to get his feet wet down 4 games in a pennant race on 8/21.  They're calling him up to help win the division.

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Re: Fire Matt Williams! (2015) - Standard Decision.
« Reply #1276 on: August 21, 2015, 04:04:27 pm »
Agreed.  Another alternative is that if a voluntary activity is just making you mad, simply stop doing it.  The last Nats game I went to made me angry enough to leave in the sixth and post a rant on here.  I have solved this problem by giving away all my tickets since then, and I won't be renewing for next year.  I am happier this way.

Interesting. I give you credit for backing up your irritation with the team. I see people at the park at times who seem absolutely tortured when things don't go well and wonder why they are there in the first place. You know, it's not like going to a movie when things are sort of guaranteed to go according to plan.

I actually saw a guy last year have such a temper tantrum that he had to get up and was cussing the whole time up to the concourse. God knows what he did when he got there.

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Re: Fire Matt Williams! (2015) - Standard Decision.
« Reply #1277 on: August 21, 2015, 04:04:57 pm »
They're not calling him up to get his feet wet down 4 games in a pennant race on 8/21.  They're calling him up to help win the division.

I hope you're right.

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« Reply #1278 on: August 21, 2015, 04:37:28 pm »
Otherwise, it makes no sense at all.
They're not calling him up to get his feet wet down 4 games in a pennant race on 8/21.  They're calling him up to help win the division.

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« Reply #1279 on: August 21, 2015, 06:53:44 pm »

LF - Espi
SS - Turner
3B - Esco
2B - Rendon



Wouldn't mind this

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Re: Fire Matt Williams! (2015) - Standard Decision.
« Reply #1280 on: August 21, 2015, 09:31:28 pm »
LF - Rendon
SS - Desi
3B - Esco
2B - Turner

or


LF - Espi
SS - Turner
3B - Esco
2B - Rendon

or

LF - Rendon
SS - Espi
3B - Esco
2B - Turner

Rendon and Turner have to both be in the lineup.


Why does Rendon have to be in the lineup? This isn't 2014. He sucks this year.

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Re: Fire Matt Williams! (2015) - Standard Decision.
« Reply #1281 on: August 21, 2015, 10:36:02 pm »
Interesting. I give you credit for backing up your irritation with the team. I see people at the park at times who seem absolutely tortured when things don't go well and wonder why they are there in the first place. You know, it's not like going to a movie when things are sort of guaranteed to go according to plan.

I actually saw a guy last year have such a temper tantrum that he had to get up and was cussing the whole time up to the concourse. God knows what he did when he got there.

I have a certain policy to enjoy a ball game no matter the outcome, but I can see myself having a hard time this year. Frankly, I have a hard time seeing it any other year. This is THE worst year in franchise history, bar none, when it comes to disparity between expectations/results.

Frankly I think that is what makes or breaks a year when it comes to "disappointing" or "enjoyable," what you thought you were getting going into it. Low or no expectations, no hurt. Epic expectations with collapse? That's heartbreaking, and that could make a trip to the ballpark somber when you take into account what's going on when you're sitting at yet another 10-3 blowout against Milwaukee. I was there in 2013 when they lost to the Marlins on the Fan Fanale day game when they needed to run the table to get in the Wild Card, but 2013 didn't have the buildup this year did, and we were out of it much earlier than this part of the year. The loss didn't hurt that bad. I wasn't even upset after the Game 1 loss in the NLDS I attended. "Hey, there's 4 games to go." (Game 2 would have probably killed me though) If I'm there on Sept 8th and the Mets are beating us...well, I won't be cursing and screaming, it won't be torture, but it will be a pretty big bummer.

The only way they turn this year around is by winning the World Series. Maybe winning the pennant. If they finally break through the first round but get bounced by the Cardinals or somebody else, on the whole 2012 and 2014 both rank as better seasons for me. This regular season has been suffering. It's not been very fun to watch with the expectations we had. 2012 and 2014, though the playoffs were absolutely brutal, the regular seasons were meaningful and spectacular. The 2015 Nationals limping their way to the playoffs? Not nearly as fun. It'd take a lot to turn around 2015 on the whole after the miserable regular season it has been.

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Re: Fire Matt Williams! (2015) - Standard Decision.
« Reply #1282 on: August 21, 2015, 10:43:23 pm »
I have a certain policy to enjoy a ball game no matter the outcome, but I can see myself having a hard time this year. Frankly, I have a hard time seeing it any other year. This is THE worst year in franchise history, bar none, when it comes to disparity between expectations/results.

Frankly I think that is what makes or breaks a year when it comes to "disappointing" or "enjoyable," what you thought you were getting going into it. Low or no expectations, no hurt. Epic expectations with collapse? That's heartbreaking, and that could make a trip to the ballpark somber when you take into account what's going on when you're sitting at yet another 10-3 blowout against Milwaukee. I was there in 2013 when they lost to the Marlins on the Fan Fanale day game when they needed to run the table to get in the Wild Card, but 2013 didn't have the buildup this year did, and we were out of it much earlier than this part of the year. The loss didn't hurt that bad. I wasn't even upset after the Game 1 loss in the NLDS I attended. "Hey, there's 4 games to go." (Game 2 would have probably killed me though) If I'm there on Sept 8th and the Mets are beating us...well, I won't be cursing and screaming, it won't be torture, but it will be a pretty big bummer.

The only way they turn this year around is by winning the World Series. Maybe winning the pennant. If they finally break through the first round but get bounced by the Cardinals or somebody else, on the whole 2012 and 2014 both rank as better seasons for me. This regular season has been suffering. It's not been very fun to watch with the expectations we had. 2012 and 2014, though the playoffs were absolutely brutal, the regular seasons were meaningful and spectacular. The 2015 Nationals limping their way to the playoffs? Not nearly as fun. It'd take a lot to turn around 2015 on the whole after the miserable regular season it has been.

Winning the world series? The pennant?  They can't win a 3 game  series against anyone these days.

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Re: Fire Matt Williams! (2015) - Standard Decision.
« Reply #1283 on: August 21, 2015, 10:51:07 pm »
Winning the world series? The pennant?  They can't win a 3 game  series against anyone these days.

Well duh

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Re: Fire Matt Williams! (2015) - Standard Decision.
« Reply #1284 on: August 21, 2015, 10:51:10 pm »
Winning the world series? The pennant?  They can't win a 3 game  series against anyone these days.
They just did.

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« Reply #1285 on: August 21, 2015, 11:10:41 pm »
I actually saw a guy last year have such a temper tantrum that he had to get up and was cussing the whole time up to the concourse. God knows what he did when he got there.
:hysterical:
It was probably someone on this board

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Re: Fire Matt Williams! (2015) - Standard Decision.
« Reply #1286 on: August 21, 2015, 11:23:38 pm »
Has he been fired yet?

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« Reply #1287 on: August 21, 2015, 11:27:52 pm »
Tomorrow  - this or fired:

Turner  ss
Werth lf
Harper rf
Espinosa 2b
Zimmerman 1b
Taylor cf
Rendon 3b
Ramos c

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Re: Fire Matt Williams! (2015) - Standard Decision.
« Reply #1288 on: August 21, 2015, 11:32:20 pm »
:hysterical:
It was probably someone on this board

I'm sure he's a regular poster on the GDT.

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Re: Fire Matt Williams! (2015) - Standard Decision.
« Reply #1289 on: August 21, 2015, 11:38:16 pm »
I have a certain policy to enjoy a ball game no matter the outcome, but I can see myself having a hard time this year. Frankly, I have a hard time seeing it any other year. This is THE worst year in franchise history, bar none, when it comes to disparity between expectations/results.

Frankly I think that is what makes or breaks a year when it comes to "disappointing" or "enjoyable," what you thought you were getting going into it. Low or no expectations, no hurt. Epic expectations with collapse? That's heartbreaking, and that could make a trip to the ballpark somber when you take into account what's going on when you're sitting at yet another 10-3 blowout against Milwaukee. I was there in 2013 when they lost to the Marlins on the Fan Fanale day game when they needed to run the table to get in the Wild Card, but 2013 didn't have the buildup this year did, and we were out of it much earlier than this part of the year. The loss didn't hurt that bad. I wasn't even upset after the Game 1 loss in the NLDS I attended. "Hey, there's 4 games to go." (Game 2 would have probably killed me though) If I'm there on Sept 8th and the Mets are beating us...well, I won't be cursing and screaming, it won't be torture, but it will be a pretty big bummer.

The only way they turn this year around is by winning the World Series. Maybe winning the pennant. If they finally break through the first round but get bounced by the Cardinals or somebody else, on the whole 2012 and 2014 both rank as better seasons for me. This regular season has been suffering. It's not been very fun to watch with the expectations we had. 2012 and 2014, though the playoffs were absolutely brutal, the regular seasons were meaningful and spectacular. The 2015 Nationals limping their way to the playoffs? Not nearly as fun. It'd take a lot to turn around 2015 on the whole after the miserable regular season it has been.

POTY candidate. I think we're all disappointed with how the season is shaping up given the expectations. But for me, the story is still being written. If they somehow get in, all bets are off and I don't care how the regular season went. I always think anything is possible at that point.

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Re: Fire Matt Williams! (2015) - Standard Decision.
« Reply #1290 on: August 21, 2015, 11:41:46 pm »
:crackup:

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Re: Fire Matt Williams! (2015) - Standard Decision.
« Reply #1291 on: August 22, 2015, 01:52:47 am »
They aren't making the playoffs, the sooner people understand this the less disappointing it will be. I've moved on already, only other game I'll attend is my little brothers birthday. After that, StubHubbing the rest of my tix and watching from the couch. Not giving the Old man Lerner another dime this year.

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Re: Fire Matt Williams! (2015) - Standard Decision.
« Reply #1292 on: August 22, 2015, 04:13:49 am »
They aren't making the playoffs, the sooner people understand this the less disappointing it will be. I've moved on already, only other game I'll attend is my little brothers birthday. After that, StubHubbing the rest of my tix and watching from the couch. Not giving the Old man Lerner another dime this year.

You already did, if you're reselling tickets... And watching on MASN isn't doing anything to help that...

FIRE MATT

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Re: Fire Matt Williams! (2015) - Standard Decision.
« Reply #1293 on: August 22, 2015, 06:08:04 am »
Tomorrow  - this or fired:

Turner  ss
Werth lf
Harper rf
Espinosa 2b
Zimmerman 1b
Taylor cf
Rendon 3b
Ramos c

Espinosa at cleanup? Look how far this team has sunk.  :hang:

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« Reply #1294 on: August 22, 2015, 10:29:19 am »
I have a certain policy to enjoy a ball game no matter the outcome, but I can see myself having a hard time this year. Frankly, I have a hard time seeing it any other year. This is THE worst year in franchise history, bar none, when it comes to disparity between expectations/results.

Frankly I think that is what makes or breaks a year when it comes to "disappointing" or "enjoyable," what you thought you were getting going into it. Low or no expectations, no hurt. Epic expectations with collapse? That's heartbreaking, and that could make a trip to the ballpark somber when you take into account what's going on when you're sitting at yet another 10-3 blowout against Milwaukee. I was there in 2013 when they lost to the Marlins on the Fan Fanale day game when they needed to run the table to get in the Wild Card, but 2013 didn't have the buildup this year did, and we were out of it much earlier than this part of the year. The loss didn't hurt that bad. I wasn't even upset after the Game 1 loss in the NLDS I attended. "Hey, there's 4 games to go." (Game 2 would have probably killed me though) If I'm there on Sept 8th and the Mets are beating us...well, I won't be cursing and screaming, it won't be torture, but it will be a pretty big bummer.

The only way they turn this year around is by winning the World Series. Maybe winning the pennant. If they finally break through the first round but get bounced by the Cardinals or somebody else, on the whole 2012 and 2014 both rank as better seasons for me. This regular season has been suffering. It's not been very fun to watch with the expectations we had. 2012 and 2014, though the playoffs were absolutely brutal, the regular seasons were meaningful and spectacular. The 2015 Nationals limping their way to the playoffs? Not nearly as fun. It'd take a lot to turn around 2015 on the whole after the miserable regular season it has been.

Well said, agree 100%.

This season just has not been fun to watch at all. I mean we had those terrible teams that lost a lot of games but even those teams were more fun to watch because you expected them to suck and it was kinda funny watching us trot out a lineup that was basically Ryan Zimmerman and 8 minor leaguers, and occasionally watching us beat good teams(remember taking 2/3 from the Yankees in Yankee Stadium in 09? or sweeping the Phillies in Philly in September in one of their World Series years?).

I don't think I've ever felt a more disappointing season out of any of my sports teams. 2000 Redskins might be the only candidate but at least that team was 6-2 before the wheels fell off. This team was never really firing save for that one really short stretch. Even when we were in 1st place the team still felt...off.

Its annoying watching our "star studded" pitchers go out and just get destroyed. Its depressing watching Zimmerman just stare at fastballs down the middle or Ramos and Taylor swing at pitches 3 inches off the plate. Its disappointing watching Harper crush home runs in completely meaningless situations but come up short all the time with men on base in a big moment. This entire season has been one big bucket of fail.

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Re: Fire Matt Williams! (2015) - Standard Decision.
« Reply #1295 on: August 22, 2015, 10:48:16 am »
Team has given up on matt. Rizzo pretending not to see that. Some one wake him up from LA LA land.

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« Reply #1296 on: August 22, 2015, 11:54:25 am »
Team has given up on matt. Rizzo pretending not to see that. Some one wake him up from LA LA land.
I think you are right.

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Re: Fire Matt Williams! (2015) - Standard Decision.
« Reply #1297 on: August 22, 2015, 01:34:14 pm »
I think Williams shows signs of cracking. Parse this sentence about Trea Turner:
Quote
“That’s not the ideal situation we wanted to get him in there in that type of situation,” said Williams of Turner’s three-inning performance.

Either the Post reporter missed a phrase or two, which seems unlikely given that reporters now have tape recorders, or Williams got to the end of the sentence but forgot how he started it. As Mrs. Smith, my 7th grade teacher at dear old Mount Rainier JHS would have said, "Please diagram that sentence."

Rizzo: have mercy on Matt Williams. Swap him with Billy Gardner, Jr, Syracuse manager. Let Williams learn how to manage a team. Gardner has managed in the minors; spent two years at Syracuse. He's not an outsider.

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Re: Fire Matt Williams! (2015) - Standard Decision.
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Re: Fire Matt Williams! (2015) - Standard Decision.
« Reply #1299 on: August 22, 2015, 02:04:03 pm »


 :hysterical: :hysterical: :hysterical:

Yeah I mean I just feel like Matt's problem is he has zero creativity.  The managers that find success are creative and willing to do whatever it takes to win.  I don't see that with Matt.  He'd be better off managing in the minors.