Offseason moves?

[imref]

Boras set the price on Choo at $100 million.

I wonder what Elsbury gets.

[imref]

New here.  I don't think they do anything on the FA market this year for a starter.  Garza will get offered much more than he's worth, and the rest of the FA pitchers aren't that great.  We have a lot of trading chips this offseason.  Tyler Moore really should go somewhere where he can play every day, and Espinosa needs a new start somewhere.  We also have a bunch of AAA players who might be able to play on a non-contender -- Perez, Kobernus, Walters, Brown.  Even Tanner Roark may be tradeable if it means bringing back an established starter.  He may be a case of trading high, like Brad Pea****.

I'm trying to think of who has staters to deal and wants to rebuild with younger talent - maybe Philly (Lee) or NYY (Sabathia?), both would cost a fortune though.

[JCA-CrystalCity]

He's not a vet, but I'd love to get Alex Torres from the Rays.  He's not going to start for them as long as they have Price / Moore / Cobb / Archer / Hellboy and other arms in the system.  Maybe if Price gets moved, but they have Odorizzi ahead of him.

He's young and cost controlled, but he was up most of the year and may be a super two after 2015, so the Rays might listen.

[NationalHeat]

I think they are going to make a big, bold move. Don't know how or where, but I think they'll be willing to eat ALR's contract to get a middle of the order upgrade.

[TigerFan]

I think they are going to make a big, bold move. Don't know how or where, but I think they'll be willing to eat ALR's contract to get a middle of the order upgrade.

Getting a legit 3 or 4 bat would be a great addition. 

[JCA-CrystalCity]

Getting a legit 3 or 4 bat would be a great addition.

I suppose as a TigerFan, you are a litttle bit spoiled for "legit 3 or 4 bats" with Cabrera, not to mention Victor and Prince, but you can have a high scoring offense without the 35+ homer masher if your top and middle of the order are good OBP guys and doubles machines.  We have respectable power without the masher.  I don't think any of the five 20 HR guys are flukes, especially since they have all done it before.  This team does not lack for XBH, either.  What it lacks is another grinder who puts together good ABs, has a high OBP, and mid-range power.  A .350+ OBP guy with .450 SLG would be an adequate addition.  I'm OK with RZ / Harper / Werth / Desmond 2-5.  Maybe I'd be happier with a lefty who grinds a bit in front of Desi, or perhaps a guy with even better pop behind desi and in front of Ramos and Rendon.

[TigerFan]

I suppose as a TigerFan, you are a litttle bit spoiled for "legit 3 or 4 bats" with Cabrera, not to mention Victor and Prince, but you can have a high scoring offense without the 35+ homer masher if your top and middle of the order are good OBP guys and doubles machines.  We have respectable power without the masher.  I don't think any of the five 20 HR guys are flukes, especially since they have all done it before.  This team does not lack for XBH, either.  What it lacks is another grinder who puts together good ABs, has a high OBP, and mid-range power.  A .350+ OBP guy with .450 SLG would be an adequate addition.  I'm OK with RZ / Harper / Werth / Desmond 2-5.  Maybe I'd be happier with a lefty who grinds a bit in front of Desi, or perhaps a guy with even better pop behind desi and in front of Ramos and Rendon.

I was thinking more along the one of a really clutch 3 hitter.  Obviously a 4 would be a masher.  It seems like this year the team had so many opportunities with guys in scoring positions and they couldn't get the job done.  I want a proven bat that doesn't shrink from the spotlight when an opportunity presents itself. 

[Mattionals]

If you want "that guy", then just pony up the cash for Cano.  Span, Zim, Cano, Werth, Harper, Desmond, Ramos and Rendon.  Bring in Girardi and re-tool the pen.  Done.

[HalfSmokes]

If you want "that guy", then just pony up the cash for Cano.  Span, Zim, Cano, Werth, Harper, Desmond, Ramos and Rendon.  Bring in Girardi and re-tool the pen.  Done.

Boras certainly thinks highly of cano

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/09/robinson-cano-seeking-ten-years-305mm.html

[zimm_da_kid]

Trade for price or stanton

[JCA-CrystalCity]

somebody like Josh Hamilton

I'd rather have a hitter who is good than a hitter who is not as good but with a history of clutch hits.  you can keep the Craig Counsells of the world, I'll go for howie kendrick every time. 

IF you mean a guy who has been exposed to pressure and seems to handle it ok, I'm with you. I think there is something psychologically true about feeling pressure and having it interfere with production.  I think it is rare to have a guy who you know is better with pressure. 

[Slateman]

Boras certainly thinks highly of cano

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/09/robinson-cano-seeking-ten-years-305mm.html

Do it Rizzoa

[zimm_da_kid]

The absolute highest I'd go for Cano would be 7/196 ($28mm AAV)

[Copecwby20]

Boras certainly thinks highly of cano

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/09/robinson-cano-seeking-ten-years-305mm.html

Cano ditched Boras and Jay-Z is his agent now. freak Jay Z, and Cano. 10 years, 300 mil for a 30 year old? NOPE.

[DPMOmaha]

I wouldn't want Cano past 34, maybe 35.  if you think you can get 10 more good years out of Rendon, spend your efforts somewhere else.

[imref]

I wouldn't want Cano past 34, maybe 35.  if you think you can get 10 more good years out of Rendon, spend your efforts somewhere else.

2 years from now rendon is a better player than Cano, maybe even sooner.

[Slateman]

2 years from now rendon is a better player than Cano, maybe even sooner.

Put Rendon at second, Cano at third, Zimmerman at first. All fIve infielders would OPS over .800.

[Displaced Bucco]

We need some grinders, maybe that will come with maturity...Carp might be rubbing off on me, but I just  over the Cards approach at the plate and the depth of their lineup.    Our guys could approach their numbers, but they never seem to give up an at bat with bad swings.

[mitlen]

Yessiree  ...   just what we need, Cano and Soriano.     We have a good young core (Rendon, Ramos, Harper, Desmond, Span (29), even Zimmerman at 1st, etc.).   We need other things first.

[Mattionals]

Honestly Cano will be way expensive and this isn't LA.  I like Granderson on a 3 year deal playing LF.  If the Nats get splashy maybe go for Choo in LF.  Harper goes to RF in both situations and Werth to 1B.

[imref]

Napoli could be an interesting option for first. 

[deeznatz]

I think they are going to make a big, bold move. Don't know how or where, but I think they'll be willing to eat ALR's contract to get a middle of the order upgrade.

Yes.  I will guarantee you that ALR is not on this team next year.  He was the weakest link in the heart of the order and he's not going to trend upward.  We're on the line for some dough but it's not enough to leave that gaping hole in the lineup and hurt our chances in what should be a peak year for us.  have to strat capitlaizing on the talent on this team.

[JCA-CrystalCity]

Honestly Cano will be way expensive and this isn't LA.  I like Granderson on a 3 year deal playing LF.  If the Nats get splashy maybe go for Choo in LF.  Harper goes to RF in both situations and Werth to 1B.

Interesting question.  Is it time to think about shifting Werth to first or left? 

Harper may have a bigger arm and is faster at this point. Left probably has less wear and tear. Werth is a below average outfielder the past few years by most advanced metrics but still has a decent enough arm.   I think right is he toughest outfield area in Nats Park.  I don't think I've seen anyone look good out there.  I think it is the high wall and lights from the scoreboard that interferes with peripheral vision of the outfielders, but I have not seen any data.  Maybe the left right swap makes some sense.

I get a little worried about pulling Werth out of the outfield unless we are confident that RZ can stay at 3d for the next 4 years (through 2017).  Heck, more than a few of us aren't confident he can play there in 2014. 

[NationalHeat]

If they really are serious about winning, I don't think they have any confidence going into the season with ALR at 1B. That spots getting upgraded.

[NatsAllThe Way]

2 years from now rendon is a better player than Cano, maybe even sooner.

LOL...