Author Topic: Fielder (Read 288156 times)

Tyler Durden · « **Reply #1575 on:** January 06, 2012, 08:42:05 pm »

I'm beginning to think this may happen for our Nats. Once the Rangers sign Fielder (edit: not Fielder, Darvish), there is basically no one left but us and a couple of teams who are where we were a couple of years ago.

We still need an outfielder and leadoff hitter. Regardless of whether or not we get Fielder.

Mr Clean · « **Reply #1576 on:** January 06, 2012, 08:45:15 pm »

You mean once the Rangers sign Darvish?

Tyler Durden · « **Reply #1577 on:** January 06, 2012, 08:51:14 pm »

yeah. fixed.

Baseball is Life · « **Reply #1578 on:** January 06, 2012, 09:16:40 pm »

Quote from: Mr Clean on January 06, 2012, 08:45:15 pm

You mean once the Rangers sign Darvish?

I can't think of anything else holding it up at this point. I'm certainly not worried about the Mariners, for crying out loud. Maybe the Jays and and Marlins are still players but...

Mr Clean · « **Reply #1579 on:** January 06, 2012, 09:20:19 pm »

I would not be surprised to see the Brewers get him.

Mattionals · « **Reply #1580 on:** January 06, 2012, 09:25:22 pm »

Dodgers as a dark horse team gets me scared about losing Fielder to them, but I think they would rather spend the money inking Ethier and Kershaw to extensions instead of going out and signing Fielder. Then again they are in a similar situation to us. As pointed out before they have Loney at first who is around LaRoche price right now and brings a similar skill set. They have guys they want to build around and are going to need to sign them to extensions. Only difference is they have already shelled out some big bucks and the potential payout for Ethier and Kershaw this year puts them well above what we are spending. Then again we don't spend. Adding another 25M to the Dodgers this season could easily bring them up around 150M, and considering that they don't have an owner right now, who knows if they are willing to spend more. They do have a lucrative TV deal coming through though.

Everybody else, i.e. Rangers, O's, M's, just don't scare me at all. Honestly I expect the deal to go to us, it's just a matter of time before Ted caves and gives Boras and Prince what they want.

Tyler Durden · « **Reply #1581 on:** January 06, 2012, 09:26:45 pm »

Here is the Brewers salary page from baseball-reference: http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/MIL/2011-roster.shtml

They spend $93 mil last year with Prince and they will be well over $100 mil next year without him. I don't see them adding another 15 mil (at least) to that.

Baseball is Life · « **Reply #1582 on:** January 06, 2012, 09:31:11 pm »

Quote from: Mr Clean on January 06, 2012, 09:20:19 pm

I would not be surprised to see the Brewers get him.

You can't go home gain, it's been said. And I think they will be priced out.

But nothing would shock me at this point...I still think it's an outside shot for the Nats to get him. Like Zuck said it would really require the FO to rethink the entire direction of the franchise (shipping Morse, exending Zimmerman, etc.) And I just don't think any one player is worth that...

Tyler Durden · « **Reply #1583 on:** January 06, 2012, 09:45:35 pm »

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/how-the-cubs-padres-trade-affects-fielder/

Fangraphs weighs in on Fielder. Or offers its thoughts if you don't like puns.

PowerBoater69 · « **Reply #1584 on:** January 06, 2012, 10:37:34 pm »

More confirmation:

Quote from: therealarosen

Drinking with an MLB. com writer who swears Prince #Fielder is going to the #Nats #barelysubstantiated #rumors #possiblybullcrap #goNats!

PC · « **Reply #1585 on:** January 06, 2012, 10:51:52 pm »

Mark Zuckerman keeps making the same fallacious argument. $150 million, assuming the Nationals actually get there, will not be an exorbitant payroll in 2015 or 2016. He clearly doesn't get the concept of the present/future value of money, real/nominal dollars or MLB player salary inflation. And he completely ignores the team's revenue stream. And the "math" he uses to get to that $150 million is almost certainly wrong.

I expect better from him.

Lintyfresh85 · « **Reply #1586 on:** January 06, 2012, 11:06:34 pm »

He's been trending towards team shill lately.

Hondo · « **Reply #1587 on:** January 06, 2012, 11:23:41 pm »

per twitter:

MLB reports @MLBreports
So according to Cecil, Prince will be a National. We really learned tonight about Prince and having Cec as a dad. Great speech.

Lintyfresh85 · « **Reply #1588 on:** January 06, 2012, 11:25:59 pm »

Cecil wouldn't have a clue. They haven't spoken to each other in years.

cmdterps44 · « **Reply #1589 on:** January 06, 2012, 11:26:15 pm »

Quote from: Hondo on January 06, 2012, 11:23:41 pm

per twitter:

MLB reports @MLBreports
So according to Cecil, Prince will be a National. We really learned tonight about Prince and having Cec as a dad. Great speech.

What?

RobDibblesGhost · « **Reply #1590 on:** January 06, 2012, 11:29:49 pm »

MLB reports
@MLBreports MLB reports
According to Cecil, Prince is off to.... Washington.

RobDibblesGhost · « **Reply #1591 on:** January 06, 2012, 11:30:34 pm »

Quote from: Lintyfresh85 on January 06, 2012, 11:25:59 pm

Cecil wouldn't have a clue. They haven't spoken to each other in years.

MLB reports
@MLBreports MLB reports
My sources indicate Prince and Cecil are in process of reconciling. They are starting to talk and rebuild.

RobDibblesGhost · « **Reply #1592 on:** January 06, 2012, 11:32:13 pm »

Still...I won't believe a thing until someone reputable (Rosenthal, Heyman, etc.) reports it.

cmdterps44 · « **Reply #1593 on:** January 06, 2012, 11:32:47 pm »

Quote from: RobDibblesGhost on January 06, 2012, 11:30:34 pm

MLB reports
@MLBreports MLB reports
My sources indicate Prince and Cecil are in process of reconciling. They are starting to talk and rebuild.

What does this even mean

Lintyfresh85 · « **Reply #1594 on:** January 06, 2012, 11:34:51 pm »

They've been estranged for years, to the point that Cecil has tried to visit Prince and his kids at the ballpark and Prince has had security throw him out.

RobDibblesGhost · « **Reply #1595 on:** January 06, 2012, 11:36:01 pm »

Quote from: Lintyfresh85 on January 06, 2012, 11:34:51 pm

They've been estranged for years, to the point that Cecil has tried to visit Prince and his kids at the ballpark and Prince has had security throw him out.

If Prince comes to DC, Cecil should just wear a Phillies shirt - the stadium staff will welcome him with open arms

cmdterps44 · « **Reply #1596 on:** January 06, 2012, 11:36:33 pm »

Quote from: Lintyfresh85 on January 06, 2012, 11:34:51 pm

They've been estranged for years, to the point that Cecil has tried to visit Prince and his kids at the ballpark and Prince has had security throw him out.

Ohh. So Prince to the Nats is what reconciles them?!?

Lintyfresh85 · « **Reply #1597 on:** January 06, 2012, 11:37:52 pm »

I'd say its more likely that Cecil is speaking out his extremely large ass than it is that he actually knows what Prince is thinking of doing.

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #1598 on:** January 06, 2012, 11:57:01 pm »

He doesn't have a clue what's going on and neither does the donk that's tweeting that garbage. More fallacious lies.

Mattionals · « **Reply #1599 on:** January 07, 2012, 12:17:07 am »

Zuckerman spouting the money card is getting old. Mstop promoting LAC and understand inflation to see that by 2016 the team will still probably only put out somewhere close to 125 WITH Fielder and Zimm signed long term. By that point some guys may not even pan out and we may have new young types who are cheap. Planning outside a two or three year window is very tough to do, so give the dice a roll now and make a run.