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Offline Vega

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Re: Fielder.
« Reply #800 on: January 02, 2012, 11:12:05 pm »
I predict that Harper busts, Clip blows his arm out, Morse's surgically repaired knee leaves his body, Stras' arm gets gnawed off by wombats, Zim gets mortally wounded while filming a Geico commercial, Werth finishes devolving in to a caveman, Mike Cameron falls and can't get up, Gio loses the ability to do anything other than intentionally walk batters, a volcano destroys the stadium, and Matt Stairs comes back.

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Re: Fielder.
« Reply #801 on: January 02, 2012, 11:14:56 pm »
I predict that Harper busts, Clip blows his arm out, Morse's surgically repaired knee leaves his body, Stras' arm gets gnawed off by wombats, Zim gets mortally wounded while filming a Geico commercial, Werth finishes devolving in to a caveman, Mike Cameron falls and can't get up, Gio loses the ability to do anything other than intentionally walk batters, a volcano destroys the stadium, and Matt Stairs comes back.
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Re: Fielder.
« Reply #802 on: January 02, 2012, 11:33:47 pm »
And the nations capital is moved to Queens
I predict that Harper busts, Clip blows his arm out, Morse's surgically repaired knee leaves his body, Stras' arm gets gnawed off by wombats, Zim gets mortally wounded while filming a Geico commercial, Werth finishes devolving in to a caveman, Mike Cameron falls and can't get up, Gio loses the ability to do anything other than intentionally walk batters, a volcano destroys the stadium, and Matt Stairs comes back.


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Re: Fielder.
« Reply #803 on: January 02, 2012, 11:38:26 pm »
I predict that Harper busts, Clip blows his arm out, Morse's surgically repaired knee leaves his body, Stras' arm gets gnawed off by wombats, Zim gets mortally wounded while filming a Geico commercial, Werth finishes devolving in to a caveman, Mike Cameron falls and can't get up, Gio loses the ability to do anything other than intentionally walk batters, a volcano destroys the stadium, and Matt Stairs comes back.

You forgot about the Mummy buttseks!

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Re: Fielder.
« Reply #804 on: January 02, 2012, 11:53:18 pm »
I predict that Harper busts, Clip blows his arm out, Morse's surgically repaired knee leaves his body, Stras' arm gets gnawed off by wombats, Zim gets mortally wounded while filming a Geico commercial, Werth finishes devolving in to a caveman, Mike Cameron falls and can't get up, Gio loses the ability to do anything other than intentionally walk batters, a volcano destroys the stadium, and Matt Stairs comes back.
and Carrot Top announces a comeback tour.



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Re: Fielder.
« Reply #805 on: January 02, 2012, 11:57:14 pm »
Sign Prince.

Offline kirubel94

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Re: Fielder.
« Reply #806 on: January 03, 2012, 12:04:18 am »
I predict that Harper busts, Clip blows his arm out, Morse's surgically repaired knee leaves his body, Stras' arm gets gnawed off by wombats, Zim gets mortally wounded while filming a Geico commercial, Werth finishes devolving in to a caveman, Mike Cameron falls and can't get up, Gio loses the ability to do anything other than intentionally walk batters, a volcano destroys the stadium, and Matt Stairs comes back.

Expect it?

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Re: Fielder.
« Reply #808 on: January 03, 2012, 07:29:46 am »
http://www.csnwashington.com/01/02/12/Zuckerman-Addressing-the-Fielder-rumors/mobile_landing.html?blockID=623550&feedID=6458




LaRoche is not guaranteed to anything but go deer hunting this year. Trade him in spring training for whatever scraps you can get and sign Fielder. I would have started Marrero over LaRoche if I were GM and he were healthy. LaRoche was already crying into his beer with Laddy Burger.

Offline PebbleBall

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Re: Fielder.
« Reply #809 on: January 03, 2012, 08:58:43 am »
The Zuckerman piece lays out at least 3 different reasons the Werth deal makes them unlikely to land Prince.  That is the very definition of an albatross if they can't work around that.

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Re: Fielder.
« Reply #810 on: January 03, 2012, 09:04:22 am »
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Are the Nationals willing to devote $65 million a year to only three players for at least four years?

Guess how many MLB clubs currently do that? Three. The Yankees are committing anywhere from $68 million to $72 million in 2014, 2015 and 2016 to Alex Rodriguez, CC Sabathia and Mark Teixeira. The Phillies will pay $65 million to Cliff Lee, Roy Halladay and Ryan Howard in 2013 (but only 2013). And the Angels are on the hook for $65 million in 2016 (but only 2016) to Albert Pujols, C.J. Wilson and Jered Weaver.

So prior to the Angels joining the club this offseason, the only two teams with similar commitments - the Yankees and Phillies - also happen to be the only two teams in baseball to participate in the past 3 playoffs.  And this is supposed to be an argument against it?  The Lerners have the wealth and the Nationals have the resources.  So why wouldn't they if the only two examples are big successes?

Offline Ray D

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« Reply #811 on: January 03, 2012, 09:14:40 am »
So prior to the Angels joining the club this offseason, the only two teams with similar commitments - the Yankees and Phillies - also happen to be the only two teams in baseball to participate in the past 3 playoffs.  And this is supposed to be an argument against it?
The Yankees and Phillies sell out every home game.  If we transform into a playoff team will we sell out every game?  If we were to, then the move would make fiscal sense.  But I don't know that we would, and I'm sure that's part of the economic equation.


Offline Tyler Durden

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Re: Fielder.
« Reply #812 on: January 03, 2012, 09:15:49 am »
So prior to the Angels joining the club this offseason, the only two teams with similar commitments - the Yankees and Phillies - also happen to be the only two teams in baseball to participate in the past 3 playoffs.  And this is supposed to be an argument against it?  The Lerners have the wealth and the Nationals have the resources.  So why wouldn't they if the only two examples are big successes?

They wouldn't do it because they don't want to spend that much.

Offline blue911

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« Reply #813 on: January 03, 2012, 09:20:43 am »
The Yankees and Phillies sell out every home game.  If we transform into a playoff team will we sell out every game?  If we were to, then the move would make fiscal sense.  But I don't know that we would, and I'm sure that's part of the economic equation.



The Nats could increase attendance by a million patrons, and not sell out a single game. A million more people = $53M +/-. 

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Re: Fielder.
« Reply #814 on: January 03, 2012, 09:24:15 am »
The Yankees and Phillies sell out every home game.  If we transform into a playoff team will we sell out every game?  If we were to, then the move would make fiscal sense.  But I don't know that we would, and I'm sure that's part of the economic equation.

The Caps sell out every game with insanely high ticket prices in a town where a very small percentage of people grew up playing hockey.  Certainly the Nats could do the same, although they're ticket pricing is such that they will rarely sell all of their premium seats, the model seems to be to always have a few top dollar tickets available.

Offline PebbleBall

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Re: Fielder.
« Reply #815 on: January 03, 2012, 09:33:14 am »
The Yankees and Phillies sell out every home game.  If we transform into a playoff team will we sell out every game?  If we were to, then the move would make fiscal sense.  But I don't know that we would, and I'm sure that's part of the economic equation.

It doesn't have to be such absolutes.  Even if the Nats signed Fielder and extended Zimmerman there'd still be a massive payroll gap between them and the Yankees.  Zuckerman's argument is a good one for a veteran team stretching it's limits or reaching its financial ceiling.  It's safe to say the Nationals aren't in that category, and we haven't even established what those limits are. 


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Re: Fielder.
« Reply #816 on: January 03, 2012, 09:34:11 am »
I wish Fielder would just hurry up and sign somewhere so we'd have something to talk about.

Offline Ray D

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« Reply #817 on: January 03, 2012, 09:36:40 am »
The Nats could increase attendance by a million patrons, and not sell out a single game. A million more people = $53M +/-. 

Ok then what I take from that is, if this deal increase attendance by half a million then it is justified.  Would the deal increase attendance by half a million?  (That would be a little over 6 thousand/game increase.)

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Re: Fielder.
« Reply #818 on: January 03, 2012, 09:44:58 am »
I wish Fielder would just hurry up and sign somewhere so we'd have something to talk about.

You mean so we wouldn't have anything left to talk about, don't you?

Offline blue911

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Re: Fielder.
« Reply #819 on: January 03, 2012, 09:53:04 am »
Ok then what I take from that is, if this deal increase attendance by half a million then it is justified.  Would the deal increase attendance by half a million?  (That would be a little over 6 thousand/game increase.)

Would Prince being on the team increase the Nationals chances of realizing those untapped monies, is the correct question.

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Re: Fielder.
« Reply #820 on: January 03, 2012, 09:55:19 am »
You mean so we wouldn't have anything left to talk about, don't you?

Well, one could argue that we've already reached that point anyway.

Offline PebbleBall

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Re: Fielder.
« Reply #821 on: January 03, 2012, 10:04:45 am »
Would Prince being on the team increase the Nationals chances of realizing those untapped monies, is the correct question.

Yes.  And count me as having the minority opinion that signing Prince would be a good sign for a Zimmerman extension.

Offline Tyler Durden

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Re: Fielder.
« Reply #822 on: January 03, 2012, 10:05:51 am »
Well, one could argue that we've already reached that point anyway.

Who couldn't stand to hear that Werth is an albatross one more time?  Or that the Lerners are cheap? 

Or on the other hand - complaining about complaining?  Or complaining about complaining about complaining.  :)

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Re: Fielder.
« Reply #823 on: January 03, 2012, 10:11:01 am »
Who couldn't stand to hear that Werth is an albatross one more time?  Or that the Lerners are cheap? 

Or on the other hand - complaining about complaining?  Or complaining about complaining about complaining.  :)

Can we please stop using the cliches of players as an albatross. They aren't out there wondering around stadiums as good luck and then being shot with a crossbow by a GM that is then forced to wear them around their necks as the entire team dies of dehydration.

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Re: Fielder.
« Reply #824 on: January 03, 2012, 10:12:27 am »
The Yankees payroll was over 200M last year.  The Phillies were at 173.  The Red Sox were at 168.  Having 3 players at 20-25M contracts is very doable without going near those levels.  The question becomes are the Lerners willing to go to the 105-140M range.  There were 9 teams in that range.