Author Topic: 2011 Trade Watch (was trade deadline watch) (Read 85429 times)

HTT · « **Reply #325 on:** July 27, 2011, 12:10:10 pm »

Jays also gave up Top 100 prospect hurler Zach Stewart

kirubel94 · « **Reply #326 on:** July 27, 2011, 12:17:02 pm »

Jon morosi says "#STLCards asked about Eric Thames, as a way to make sure they got an outfielder back in Rasmus deal. Not clear if #BlueJays will move him."

zoom · « **Reply #327 on:** July 27, 2011, 12:17:03 pm »

What do the Cards have that we might be able to acquire with Clippard and Desmond?

KnorrForYourMoney · « **Reply #328 on:** July 27, 2011, 12:21:37 pm »

Quote from: PANatsFan on July 27, 2011, 12:09:44 pm

This is an insane trade at the moment - a crap player and a decent starter for a good reliever and a great prospect?

Good god. Anthopoulous might be worse than Ricciardi.

Kevrock · « **Reply #329 on:** July 27, 2011, 12:29:57 pm »

Quote from: zoom on July 27, 2011, 12:17:03 pm

What do the Cards have that we might be able to acquire with Clippard and Desmond?

Edwin Jackson, once the Jays flip him for Rasmus.

daveb32 · « **Reply #330 on:** July 27, 2011, 12:49:11 pm »

olney thinks the jays have acquired Rasmus for ejax, rzepczinski & dotel. do they have any bullpen left?

Tyler Durden · « **Reply #331 on:** July 27, 2011, 12:53:26 pm »

Why the heck do the Cards trade for someone they can just sign in the offseason?

Evolution33 · « **Reply #332 on:** July 27, 2011, 12:54:56 pm »

Quote from: Tyler Durden on July 27, 2011, 12:53:26 pm

Why the heck do the Cards trade for someone they can just sign in the offseason?

They are trying to win the NL Central before then.

Minty Fresh · « **Reply #333 on:** July 27, 2011, 12:55:30 pm »

Quote from: daveb32 on July 27, 2011, 12:49:11 pm

olney thinks the jays have acquired Rasmus for ejax, rzepczinski & dotel. do they have any bullpen left?

What the freak is that?

hammondsnats · « **Reply #334 on:** July 27, 2011, 12:57:09 pm »

Quote from: Minty Fresh on July 27, 2011, 12:07:50 pm

My point is, the CF market is sparse right now and I don't view many of them as any major improvement over Bernie so if we can get a SS who can lead off we can move Bernie to the #8 (or #9) spot and trade Desmond. We don't necessarily HAVE to have both a SS and a CF (although both would be nice) as long as we get a leadoff hitter.

that's where we agree to disagree.

Tyler Durden · « **Reply #335 on:** July 27, 2011, 12:57:55 pm »

Still - they couldn't find another way to add a starting pitcher? Or trade Rasmus for a starter with more than 2 months left on his contract?

Seems pretty short sighted to me.

Evolution33 · « **Reply #336 on:** July 27, 2011, 12:59:49 pm »

Quote from: Tyler Durden on July 27, 2011, 12:57:55 pm

Still - they couldn't find another way to add a starting pitcher? Or trade Rasmus for a starter with more than 2 months left on his contract?

Seems pretty short sighted to me.

Rasmus was their Yunel Escobar. Honestly AA reminds me a little bit of Bowden with his willingness to take on reported clubhouse issues. Those two are more talented than anyone Bowden brought in, but AA is an overrated GM.

Tyler Durden · « **Reply #337 on:** July 27, 2011, 01:03:50 pm »

Fire AA.

But he did manage to dump Vernon Wells. That was a minor miracle.

imref · « **Reply #338 on:** July 27, 2011, 01:04:52 pm »

we really couldn't find a way to top the Jays offer?

wpa2629 · « **Reply #339 on:** July 27, 2011, 01:08:11 pm »

Buster_ESPN Buster Olney
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The trade: Colby Rasmus, Trever Miller, Brian Tallet and P.J. Walters for Jackson, Marc Rzepczynski, Dotel and Corey Patterson.#trades

Evolution33 · « **Reply #340 on:** July 27, 2011, 01:08:25 pm »

Quote from: imref on July 27, 2011, 01:04:52 pm

we really couldn't find a way to top the Jays offer?

No. Edwin Jackson is better than Marquis and the Cards are trying to win the Central. I am sure the Nats could have topped the offer the Blue Jays made, but why trade too much for Rasmus when BJ Upton is comparable and will cost far less.

hammondsnats · « **Reply #341 on:** July 27, 2011, 01:09:51 pm »

well it's down to b.j. upton, peter bourjous, denard span and michael bourn.

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #342 on:** July 27, 2011, 01:11:06 pm »

That's a good trade for the Jays. The Cardinals got raped.

MarquisDeSade · « **Reply #343 on:** July 27, 2011, 01:11:26 pm »

Watch us end up with no one other than Gomes.

Minty Fresh · « **Reply #344 on:** July 27, 2011, 01:12:06 pm »

Quote from: hammondsnats on July 27, 2011, 01:09:51 pm

well it's down to b.j. upton, peter bourjous, denard span and michael bourn.

Of those, I'd take Span.

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #345 on:** July 27, 2011, 01:12:58 pm »

Quote from: MarquisDeSade on July 27, 2011, 01:11:26 pm

Watch us end up with no one other than Gomes.

If that's the only trade

Evolution33 · « **Reply #346 on:** July 27, 2011, 01:16:50 pm »

Quote from: Minty Fresh on July 27, 2011, 01:12:06 pm

Of those, I'd take Span.

My order would be Span, Bourjas, BJ, Bourn.

Minty Fresh · « **Reply #347 on:** July 27, 2011, 01:20:24 pm »

Quote from: Evolution33 on July 27, 2011, 01:16:50 pm

My order would be Span, Bourjas, BJ, Bourn.

I'd flip Bourn and Upton, but other than that, yep. In fact, I'd probably just leave Upton on the table.

Tyler Durden · « **Reply #348 on:** July 27, 2011, 01:20:46 pm »

Quote from: Evolution33 on July 27, 2011, 01:08:25 pm

No. Edwin Jackson is better than Marquis and the Cards are trying to win the Central. I am sure the Nats could have topped the offer the Blue Jays made, but why trade too much for Rasmus when BJ Upton is comparable and will cost far less.

I will be surprised if Upton costs less. Jackson is a decent pitcher but he'll be a free agent in a couple of months.

The Cards have done nothing but drive Rasmus' value down recently. I get that Rasmus is a pain in the rear but they should have done better.

Evolution33 · « **Reply #349 on:** July 27, 2011, 01:23:21 pm »

Quote from: Minty Fresh on July 27, 2011, 01:20:24 pm

I'd flip Bourn and Upton, but other than that, yep. In fact, I'd probably just leave Upton on the table.

I think Bourn's issues are worse than Upton's because Bourn does his cancer routine on the field.