Author Topic: 2010 Offseason Wheeling and Dealing (Read 115651 times)

imref · « **Reply #2225 on:** February 20, 2010, 09:42:11 pm »

Quote from: DPMOmaha on February 20, 2010, 09:39:04 pm

Alex Gordon had it too. It's taken him a bit longer to return to form.

I've had Gordon 2 of the last 3 years on my fantasy team, doesn't one need to first achieve "form" before they can return to it?

He's the Ryan Leaf of MLB.

DPMOmaha · « **Reply #2226 on:** February 20, 2010, 09:46:21 pm »

Quote from: imref on February 20, 2010, 09:42:11 pm

I've had Gordon 2 of the last 3 years on my fantasy team, doesn't one need to first achieve "form" before they can return to it?

He's the Ryan Leaf of MLB.

Lol, no he's not. He was starting to play well at the end of the year before last and then missed the first couple of months recovering from surgery last year and never really got going. This will be a big year for him. He's still got a couple of years before he gets to FA, I believe, so he's still got some time to prove himself.

imref · « **Reply #2227 on:** February 20, 2010, 10:24:06 pm »

Quote from: DPMOmaha on February 20, 2010, 09:46:21 pm

Lol, no he's not. He was starting to play well at the end of the year before last and then missed the first couple of months recovering from surgery last year and never really got going. This will be a big year for him. He's still got a couple of years before he gets to FA, I believe, so he's still got some time to prove himself.

He hit .232 with 6 HRs in 49 games last year, remember that he was the #2 overall pick in 2005. Sorry, no matter what anyone says I'm never drafting him again. :-)

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #2228 on:** February 21, 2010, 04:30:48 pm »

Lowell and Utley also had the hip labrum problem.

Minty Fresh · « **Reply #2229 on:** February 21, 2010, 05:34:14 pm »

Quote from: tomterp on February 20, 2010, 05:16:02 pm

Right, torn labrum ( see - Alex Rodriguez).

If A-Rod's the model, it shouldn't have any long term consequences.

Only Rodriguez plays 3B and Detwiler pitches...

imref · « **Reply #2230 on:** February 21, 2010, 09:30:59 pm »

Quote from: Minty Fresh on February 21, 2010, 05:34:14 pm

Only Rodriguez plays 3B and Detwiler pitches...

And as far as we know, Ross is natural. :-)

PatsNats28 · « **Reply #2231 on:** February 21, 2010, 10:49:27 pm »

Quote from: imref on February 20, 2010, 09:42:11 pm

I've had Gordon 2 of the last 3 years on my fantasy team, doesn't one need to first achieve "form" before they can return to it?

He's the Ryan Leaf of MLB.

is he a douche or something?

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #2232 on:** February 22, 2010, 07:37:53 am »

Tom has an interesting post from Christina Karl on the Wang Wire thread that also discusses the Taveras, Duncan, and Mench signings.

tomterp · « **Reply #2233 on:** February 22, 2010, 09:03:04 am »

Quote from: JCA-CrystalCity on February 22, 2010, 07:37:53 am

Tom has an interesting post from Christina Karl on the Wang Wire thread that also discusses the Taveras, Duncan, and Mench signings.

Thanks, I deliberated splitting it up into the various components, but then the US - Canada game got me distracted in a good way.

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #2234 on:** February 22, 2010, 10:48:52 am »

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washingnats: I just learned the #Nats offered RHP Chan Ho Park a contract, but they lost out to the Yankees.

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SI_JonHeyman: #yankees sign chan ho park for $1.2 mil plus $300K in extras

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washingnats: The #Nats also offered a contract to RHP Braden Looper, but he told the club last night he is going in another direction.

PANatsFan · « **Reply #2235 on:** February 22, 2010, 11:31:59 am »

That's a solid offer to Chan Ho. But the Yankees won the Series.

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #2236 on:** February 22, 2010, 12:20:43 pm »

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Buster_ESPN: Heck of a bargain for the NYY to sign Chan Ho Park at $1.2 million. He turned down $3.25 mil. and a 1-year deal from PHI early in offseason.

pretty smart

HalfSmokes · « **Reply #2237 on:** February 22, 2010, 05:05:47 pm »

I wonder if he's factoring in his playoff share into the deal?

blue911 · « **Reply #2238 on:** February 22, 2010, 05:12:59 pm »

Quote from: HalfSmokes on February 22, 2010, 05:05:47 pm

I wonder if he's factoring in his playoff share into the deal?

He would have to be counting on 7 or 8 full shares if that was the case.

Hondo · « **Reply #2239 on:** February 23, 2010, 07:58:23 am »

glad to see we are trying to add another vet. I'd like to see us sign Washburn to a one year bargain deal

KnorrForYourMoney · « **Reply #2240 on:** February 23, 2010, 08:08:30 am »

I think Washburn would be terrible for us. Heavy flyball tendencies don't work as well in Nats Park as they do in Safeco.

I'd rather use Smoltz as a stopgap while we wait for Detwiler and Wang to get healthy. We could move him back to the bullpen when we need to make room.

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #2241 on:** February 23, 2010, 08:25:18 am »

Quote from: KnorrForYourMoney on February 23, 2010, 08:08:30 am

I think Washburn would be terrible for us. Heavy flyball tendencies don't work as well in Nats Park as they do in Safeco.

I'd rather use Smoltz as a stopgap while we wait for Detwiler and Wang to get healthy. We could move him back to the bullpen when we need to make room.

Washburn has been the one higher profile pitcher that I have wanted the Nats to stick away from the most. I used to be a fan of his when he was with the Angels, but I don't see last year's Safeco-influenced 1st half in front of the best OF defense as being a good predictor of how he would do in an honest ballpark. If you think this park slightly disadvantages RH power and if you think Nyjer is the NL's version of Death to Flying Things, then he might be average here. But at some point, we do have to stop with the filler and continue to see if someone emerges from the 6 or so candiadtes for the 4th and 5th spot. I would still rather take a flier on a Smoltz or a Pedro dice roll. Portfolio theory.

PANatsFan · « **Reply #2242 on:** February 23, 2010, 08:35:08 am »

Even the LAC'ers can't expect Smoltz to get $10 million, right? Who buys a $50 burger?

KnorrForYourMoney · « **Reply #2243 on:** February 23, 2010, 08:43:54 am »

Quote from: PANatsFan on February 23, 2010, 08:35:08 am

Even the LAC'ers can't expect Smoltz to get $10 million, right? Who buys a $50 burger?

WTF does that have to do with anything? You're becoming a self-caricature with this obsessive anti-LAC nonsense. It's like bizarro hammondsnats from last year.

blue911 · « **Reply #2244 on:** February 23, 2010, 08:55:10 am »

Quote from: PANatsFan on February 23, 2010, 08:35:08 am

Even the LAC'ers can't expect Smoltz to get $10 million, right? Who buys a $50 burger?

Smoltz made somewhere around $10M last season. I think that Smoltz' agents are marketing him ala Roger Clemens.

PANatsFan · « **Reply #2245 on:** February 23, 2010, 09:02:06 am »

Quote from: blue911 on February 23, 2010, 08:55:10 am

Smoltz made somewhere around $10M last season. I think that Smoltz' agents are marketing him ala Roger Clemens.

Rumors are he's asking for at least that much, which is why the team isn't talking with his agents.

I want Smoltz, too. I wanted him 2 years ago before he re'upped with Atlanta. But for $10 million you could get a much better pitcher, to be frank.

aspenbubba · « **Reply #2246 on:** February 23, 2010, 09:03:11 am »

Quote from: JCA-CrystalCity on February 23, 2010, 08:25:18 am

But at some point, we do have to stop with the filler and continue to see if someone emerges from the 6 or so candiadtes for the 4th and 5th spot.

Who are you figuring to be the 3rd? Without going back into the 25 man roster thread would it be Stammen or Olsen?

tomterp · « **Reply #2247 on:** February 23, 2010, 09:11:52 am »

Quote from: PANatsFan on February 23, 2010, 09:02:06 am

I want Smoltz, too. I wanted him 2 years ago before he re'upped with Atlanta. But for $10 million you could get a much better pitcher, to be frank.

Like whom?

Kevrock · « **Reply #2248 on:** February 23, 2010, 09:20:03 am »

Quote from: aspenbubba on February 23, 2010, 09:03:11 am

Who are you figuring to be the 3rd? Without going back into the 25 man roster thread would it be Stammen or Olsen?

Stammen, according to ASSCLOWN's Twitter connections.

tomterp · « **Reply #2249 on:** February 23, 2010, 09:31:18 am »

Quote from: Kevrock on February 23, 2010, 09:20:03 am

Stammen, according to ASSCLOWN's Twitter connections.

I think it's great that after the pitchers report, run a few calisthentics, run around the outfield a while and throw a few dozen soft tosses, that the Nats are able to designate Stammen as the winner of the #3 rotation job.

Or, could it be that Ladson's twitter response to ASSCLOWN was merely his guess, as opposed to relaying a conclusive decision on the part of the club?