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Offline Potomac Cannons

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Re: Washington Wizards Thread (2009-2010)
« Reply #800 on: June 24, 2010, 09:36:21 pm »
Eh, we'll let time decide. I believe he'll be a contributor at least.

If I could choose who we could get in the free agency (aside from Wade/Lebron, etc) I'd choose Boozer/Bosh. Having one of them down low with two good guys up top could create some confused D. Let Blatche and McGee take center, or sign someone cheap.

NattieSportsFan20882 calling Wall a bust is evidence that he'll be a very good pro.

As for the FA class this year, I don't see a PF, or any of the big FAs as a good move.  This team won't compete this season.  Maybe they'll sneak into the playoffs, but who really cares.  Get the backcourt sorted out, don't waste cap room on guys who won't be good when Wall hits his prime, and go balls to the wall for Melo next summer.

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Re: Washington Wizards Thread (2009-2010)
« Reply #801 on: June 24, 2010, 09:43:40 pm »
No new thread so I'll post this here.  Looks like Hinrich and the 17th pick to the Wiz.  That gives them Wall, Gilbert, Hinrich, Young in the back court.  Also gives them 17th pick for a post/wing player and 30th for whatever they don't get at 17.  Not bad, and you can already see the work of the Great Ted influencing how they go about things.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2010/news/story?id=5324240

This confuses me. They say the deal might fall through. So they told them who to draft or no? Also, how long do you get the rights for foreign guys, because they just choose to play in another country, right?

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Re: Washington Wizards Thread (2009-2010)
« Reply #802 on: June 24, 2010, 09:48:32 pm »
This confuses me. They say the deal might fall through. So they told them who to draft or no? Also, how long do you get the rights for foreign guys, because they just choose to play in another country, right?

You keep their rights if they want to enter the NBA.  The pick doesn't make sense unless they had someone they wanted to stash without using up cap room with a view towards 2-3 years down the line.

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Re: Washington Wizards Thread (2009-2010)
« Reply #803 on: June 24, 2010, 09:56:11 pm »
Bullets just sent the 30 and 35 to Minnesota for the 23 (Trevor Booker-PF-Clemson) and the 56.  Makes the deal for the 17 seem even more unlikely.

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Re: Washington Wizards Thread (2009-2010)
« Reply #804 on: June 25, 2010, 07:33:06 am »
 Wall -Strasburg - Ovechkin - Superstars in DC Sports. It's getting exciting around this town..... :woop:

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Re: Washington Wizards Thread (2009-2010)
« Reply #805 on: June 25, 2010, 08:37:44 am »
Bullets just sent the 30 and 35 to Minnesota for the 23 (Trevor Booker-PF-Clemson) and the 56.  Makes the deal for the 17 seem even more unlikely.

Thank god, the last thing we want to to be the team that enables Bosh and LeBron to play together in Chicago and dominate for the next 6 years

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Re: Washington Wizards Thread (2009-2010)
« Reply #806 on: June 25, 2010, 09:39:16 am »
The good thing is that this free agency is stacked. The bad thing is that teams are supposedly trying to get like 2 superstars. I hope we atleast get one of those quality players. I'd hate for some team to get a Lebron and Amar'e duo. Aren't the heat trying to do that WITH Wade? lol.

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Re: Washington Wizards Thread (2009-2010)
« Reply #807 on: June 25, 2010, 09:47:22 am »
Wall is going to be a total bust.  Can't shoot, turnover prone, reminds me a lot of Rodney Stuckey

He is a much better floor general than Stuckey will ever be, much quicker and faster, which will allow him to develop a better shot over time, and he is a classic, pass-first PG.  He might not be all-time-great material, but he is closer to that than "total bust."

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Re: Washington Wizards Thread (2009-2010)
« Reply #808 on: June 25, 2010, 10:06:14 am »
SIAP, but if you guys haven't seen the Sports Science on John Wall, check it out: http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=5311548

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Re: Washington Wizards Thread (2009-2010)
« Reply #809 on: June 25, 2010, 10:43:15 am »
The good thing is that this free agency is stacked. The bad thing is that teams are supposedly trying to get like 2 superstars. I hope we atleast get one of those quality players. I'd hate for some team to get a Lebron and Amar'e duo. Aren't the heat trying to do that WITH Wade? lol.

Chicago has room for two max players, so Rose+LeBron+Bosh, Heat has room for Wade plus two others so Wade+Bosh+?

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Re: Washington Wizards Thread (2009-2010)
« Reply #810 on: June 25, 2010, 11:09:38 am »
Thank god, the last thing we want to to be the team that enables Bosh and LeBron to play together in Chicago and dominate for the next 6 years

That team, with Rose, would implode every freaking year in the playoffs.  A bunch of guys who have to have the ball in their hands and can't shoot from the perimeter at all isn't a championship formula.

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Re: Washington Wizards Thread (2009-2010)
« Reply #811 on: June 25, 2010, 11:25:30 am »
That's not a great plan. It's great if the team wants to be a #7/8 seed every year. The team needs to avoid blowing cap space on mediocre veterans (Gay, Boozer). Plus, if the team signs Rudy Gay, they don't have enough cap space to sign Melo.

No chance the Wizards get Melo. First of all, reports say that it's likely he resigns with Denver in the next few weeks. In any case, if he were to leave, he would want to go to a winner.

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Re: Washington Wizards Thread (2009-2010)
« Reply #812 on: June 25, 2010, 11:59:00 am »
No chance the Wizards get Melo. First of all, reports say that it's likely he resigns with Denver in the next few weeks. In any case, if he were to leave, he would want to go to a winner.

I'm not sure if he's sold on Denver long term.  They have a quickly closing window out there and I don't see them making moves to stay competitive.  If George Karl doesn't recover that would likely up the chances he goes.  If the Bullets do what is expected this offseason, then you go into next offseason with Wall, Gilbert, Blatche and 1-2 other 1st rounders under contract for around 30m total cap space.  Thornton and McGee would have team options and Young could be given a qualifying offer.  That's not a bad spot to be in if you want to go after a legit SF at that point and try to get a big to come in along with him.

The Wizards have to build for 2-3 years from now.  Gil is here until the 13/14 season (I doubt he's opting out in 2012).  PG is in place.  If either of the bodies they picked up at PF in the first round work out that gives them someone in case they want to move Blatche.  Getting that wing player becomes paramount and having Wall + cap space makes it intriguing for someone wanting a chance to win for 5-7 years.

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Re: Washington Wizards Thread (2009-2010)
« Reply #813 on: June 25, 2010, 12:21:57 pm »
I liked Blatche, but the casual fan sees his bad behavior and loses interest (that's me).

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Re: Washington Wizards Thread (2009-2010)
« Reply #814 on: June 25, 2010, 12:27:24 pm »
I'm really disappointed Art Parakhouski from Radford didn't get drafted, he projected as an upper 2nd round guy.

I guess he'll be on someone's practice squad soon.

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Re: Washington Wizards Thread (2009-2010)
« Reply #815 on: June 25, 2010, 12:27:31 pm »
I'm not sure if he's sold on Denver long term.  They have a quickly closing window out there and I don't see them making moves to stay competitive.  If George Karl doesn't recover that would likely up the chances he goes.  If the Bullets do what is expected this offseason, then you go into next offseason with Wall, Gilbert, Blatche and 1-2 other 1st rounders under contract for around 30m total cap space.  Thornton and McGee would have team options and Young could be given a qualifying offer.  That's not a bad spot to be in if you want to go after a legit SF at that point and try to get a big to come in along with him.

The Wizards have to build for 2-3 years from now.  Gil is here until the 13/14 season (I doubt he's opting out in 2012).  PG is in place.  If either of the bodies they picked up at PF in the first round work out that gives them someone in case they want to move Blatche.  Getting that wing player becomes paramount and having Wall + cap space makes it intriguing for someone wanting a chance to win for 5-7 years.

Execpt you have gilbert demanding the ball on every play. I think he's a hendrance to getting another high profile scorer like Carmelo

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Re: Washington Wizards Thread (2009-2010)
« Reply #816 on: June 25, 2010, 12:28:55 pm »
He is a much better floor general than Stuckey will ever be, much quicker and faster, which will allow him to develop a better shot over time, and he is a classic, pass-first PG.  He might not be all-time-great material, but he is closer to that than "total bust."

given this team's history - if he's better than Kwame and Chris Webber, we're good.

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Re: Washington Wizards Thread (2009-2010)
« Reply #817 on: June 25, 2010, 12:39:17 pm »
I'm really disappointed Art Parakhouski from Radford didn't get drafted, he projected as an upper 2nd round guy.

I guess he'll be on someone's practice squad soon.

NBDL? This isn't football...

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Re: Washington Wizards Thread (2009-2010)
« Reply #818 on: June 25, 2010, 12:41:48 pm »
Execpt you have gilbert demanding the ball on every play. I think he's a hendrance to getting another high profile scorer like Carmelo

Maybe so, but at this point Gil doesn't have a leg to stand on (literally).

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Re: Washington Wizards Thread (2009-2010)
« Reply #819 on: June 25, 2010, 12:41:48 pm »
Just remember that Dunn was originally angling for a 50 million dollar deal with the Cubs or Dodgers.

I'm sure he likes it hear just fine, but - with a few rare exceptions - players always go with the money.

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Re: Washington Wizards Thread (2009-2010)
« Reply #820 on: June 25, 2010, 12:43:31 pm »
Maybe so, but at this point Gil doesn't have a leg to stand on (literally).

somehow I don't see him bowing out gracefully though

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Re: Washington Wizards Thread (2009-2010)
« Reply #821 on: June 25, 2010, 12:54:17 pm »
somehow I don't see him bowing out gracefully though

Ugly suit on the sidelines after he gets hurt again.  It won't matter at that point.  I wouldn't put a lot on the biggest names this offseason.  Rudy Gay is as far as I would go.  Maybe Boozer if he gets squeezed out of the bigger deals.

Next year could see people like Battier and Kendrick Perkins coming in after Melo. 

I still say this offseason should be focused on Rudy Gay, Brendan Haywood and trying to poach a big name that gets squeezed with a mid level exception.

If the trades all go through the current roster is as such:
John Wall - Point Guard
Gilbert Arenas - Combo Guard
Kirk Hinrich - Combo Guard
Nick Young - Shooting Guard
Al Thornton - Small Forward
Quinton Ross - Small Forward
Trevor Booker - Power Forward
Kevin Seraphin - Power Forward
Andray Blatche - Power Forward/Center
Javal McGee - Center
Hamady N'Diaye - Center

That's 11 roster spots with starters needed at SF/C.  You can carry up to 15 guys, 12 active.  N'Diaye looks destined for an NBDL assignment to develop something to go with the shot blocking ability.

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Re: Washington Wizards Thread (2009-2010)
« Reply #822 on: June 25, 2010, 12:58:54 pm »
I want Amar'e or Boozer.

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Re: Washington Wizards Thread (2009-2010)
« Reply #823 on: June 25, 2010, 06:51:45 pm »
Hell to the NO to Boozer he's a post season zero, and Amare is NOT worth a Max contract. That would be a total waste. Don't do anything this year, go after Durant (OMG Drool) or Melo next year

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Re: Washington Wizards Thread (2009-2010)
« Reply #824 on: June 25, 2010, 06:53:15 pm »
Hell to the NO to Boozer he's a post season zero, and Amare is NOT worth a Max contract. That would be a total waste. Don't do anything this year, go after Durant (OMG Drool) or Melo next year

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