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Re: 2009 Division-Watching
« Reply #225 on: May 06, 2009, 09:15:39 pm »
Wow, Carlos Delgado scores from FIRST on a broken bat squibbler thrown away by Feliz and then triple-clutched by Werth.  The Phillies have THREE errors tonight, they only had FIVE for the whole season coming into the game :shock:

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Re: 2009 Division-Watching
« Reply #226 on: May 06, 2009, 09:18:13 pm »
The Fish have THREE errors this inning, they only had FIVE for the whole game coming into the 6th :shock:

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Re: 2009 Division-Watching
« Reply #227 on: May 06, 2009, 09:19:25 pm »

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Re: 2009 Division-Watching
« Reply #228 on: May 06, 2009, 09:20:05 pm »
How about CHP hanging with Santana :shock:

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Re: 2009 Division-Watching
« Reply #229 on: May 06, 2009, 09:20:20 pm »
Danny Boy is hitting 9 11 points below his weight.  Unfortunately, it's his BA that is on NutriSystem.
At least his wife told him he's not as DISGUSTING to her as he used to be!

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Re: 2009 Division-Watching
« Reply #230 on: May 06, 2009, 09:21:59 pm »
The NL East is so pathetic.

Florida 14-11
Philadelphia 12-10 (0.5 GB)
Atlanta 11-13 (2.5 GB)
New York 10-13 (3 GB)
Washington 6-17 (7 GB)

:? god, if we could just string together a few wins we would be right back in this nag.

No, we are pretty boned since we played 21 division games already :bang: Our wins have to be matched by other teams' losses.

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Re: 2009 Division-Watching
« Reply #231 on: May 07, 2009, 10:28:55 am »
Marlins pitchers are hitting .176

Marlins leadoff batter for the past 18 games, .160

But, Bonifacio is a "gem," a "helluva ballplayer, a real gamer" and the Fish are "much better [at 3B] than [they] have been in years" because Beinfest says so, so there - *raspberry* :P.  Don't let the facts that Bonifacio's FPCT is 28 points worse than Cabrera's was at 3B with the Fish, and Bonifacio's OPS 528 points less than Cabrera's get in your way, Larry.

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Re: 2009 Division-Watching
« Reply #232 on: May 07, 2009, 01:25:31 pm »
damn, Anibal Sanchez just left the game today with an apparent arm injury.

unfortunate

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Re: 2009 Division-Watching
« Reply #233 on: May 07, 2009, 01:45:06 pm »
damn, Anibal Sanchez just left the game today with an apparent arm injury.

unfortunate

That poor guy has worse luck than Shawn Hill.

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Re: 2009 Division-Watching
« Reply #234 on: May 07, 2009, 02:13:16 pm »
That's the same shoulder he on which had the labrum surgery.  He's been exceeding the odds to have played more than 5 games after that.  But this is one hard-luck guy.  It's a very sad day.

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Re: 2009 Division-Watching
« Reply #235 on: May 07, 2009, 08:33:11 pm »
From the Fish Eye:

It looks like at best, Anibal Sanchez dislocated his shoulder.  He's describing "bone pain,"  and is presently undergoing an MRI.  Regardless, the Fish have announced he will be going on the DL tomorrow.

Chris Coglan will be joining the Fish in Denver tomorrow, leaving from New Orleans sometime after the Zephyrs game tonight.  Coglan is a 2B .

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Re: 2009 Division-Watching
« Reply #236 on: May 08, 2009, 12:17:30 pm »
I hear that Freddy plans to use him at 3B, does this mean the Bonifacio experiment is over in Florida?

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Re: 2009 Division-Watching
« Reply #237 on: May 08, 2009, 12:26:02 pm »
Dave Cameron REALLY doesn't like Bonifacio.

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Well, that didn’t take long. Despite the flukiest hot start baseball has seen since Tuffy Rhodes, it looks like the Emilio Bonifacio era may be coming to an end in Florida. The Marlins have recalled top prospect Chris Coghlan from Triple-A, where he was hitting .348/.425/.565 with a 12/10 BB/K ratio to go along with 12 extra base hits. The power was the nice surprise so far, as no one questions his ability to handle the bat and control the strike zone. He’s not the greatest athlete in the world, but he’s a baseball player. He’s essentially the anti-Bonifacio.

Early reports say Coghlan will see time in both the outfield and at second base (his natural position), giving the team a chance to give the slumping Dan Uggla a day or two off. However, there’s just no reason to keep a scrub like Bonifacio on the field when you have a talent like Coghlan ready to play everyday. He’s played 42 games at third base in the minors, including 11 there this season.

Thanks to their 11-1 start, the Marlins are still semi-competitive in the NL East despite the fact that their offense has fallen apart. Hanley Ramirez could use some help, and Coghlan is the kind of player who could give the team some legitimate offense from a position where that is sorely lacking. There’s just no reason why Coghlan shouldn’t get the majority of playing time at the hot corner. Even if the Marlins fall out of the race, Coghlan is a part of their future, while Bonifacio is not.

How he distributes the playing time at third base will be something of a litmus test for manager Fredi Gonzalez. The sooner he puts Bonifacio on the bench the better, and hopefully it’s permanent this time.
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Re: 2009 Division-Watching
« Reply #238 on: May 08, 2009, 02:37:41 pm »
I hear that Freddy plans to use him at 3B, does this mean the Bonifacio experiment is over in Florida?

It should be over.  In fact, it never should have begun.  But its doubtful as that would mean Beinfest would have to admit to a mistake.  Oddly enough, in games other than vs the Nats, the Fish have been caught stealing more times than they've stolen bases.  Pitiful.

Uggla, on the other hand is the highest paid Marlin, and has one of the worst performing contracts in MLB.  Plus, getting him out would mean Loria could pocket even more revenue sharing, which is always the #1 consideration for the Fish.  In only 3 of the last 21 games has Uggla driven in a baserunner.  During that span, he left 49 on base and doubled up a 50th.  Getting rid of him is about the only way to keep Fredi from batting him 5th.

Also, Hermida could be targeted to escape from Florida.  Loria and Samson didn't want him this year, but Beinfest wanted to fail for another year, because, well, to let him go would mean that three of Beinfest's 1st round picks since coming here were so bad that they are already complete bust (Tankersley and Allison, who never even got above A ball the other two), while he traded away Adrian Gonzalez, who had no future.  :evil:

Once today's move is made, and Sanchez hits the DL, the Fish have only 3 starting pitchers on the roster (though Johnson is also listed as a reliever ).  Beinfest will probably just burn options, but a trade may be necessary.

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Re: 2009 Division-Watching
« Reply #239 on: May 08, 2009, 06:13:54 pm »
Despite the flukiest hot start baseball has seen since Tuffy Rhodes,
I'll take "People Named Chris Shelton" for 200, Alex.

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Re: 2009 Division-Watching
« Reply #240 on: May 08, 2009, 06:15:07 pm »
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Re: 2009 Division-Watching
« Reply #241 on: May 08, 2009, 07:44:14 pm »
Desperate times:

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"Anibal Sanchez Could Be Back in Two Months

          DENVER -- It could be at least two months before Anibal Sanchez works his way back into the starting rotation. But the Marlins were breathing a sigh of relief that his shoulder wasn't more serious than that.

          Sanchez suffered a sprained right shoulder during his start on Thursday and will be placed on no-throw status for the next three to four weeks, manager Fredi Gonzalez said Friday at Coors Field.

          "It's a sprained shoulder, whiich is a good thing," Gonzalez said.

          Gonzalez said the immediate thought Thursday was that one of the three or four surgical tacks in Sanchez's right shoulder had popped loose. But tests performed on the pitcher indicated a sprain.

          With Sanchez going to the disabled list and Andrew Miller about nine days away from his return, the Marlins are looking for a starter to pitch on Tuesday in Milwaukee. Gonzalez said there are any number of options, including going with Burke Badenhop, Hayden Penn or Dan Meyer -- or dipping into the minors for help.

          The final decision will likely hinge on the bullpen's workload this weekend in Colorado.
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Re: 2009 Division-Watching
« Reply #242 on: May 08, 2009, 08:55:09 pm »
Dave Cameron REALLY doesn't like Bonifacio.
http://tinyurl.com/ov5jnq

Ok, this isn't fair.  I was at Hartsfield, trying to change planes, when ronnynat dug this article up. and I had no internet access since Tuesday morning.  I'm just kicking myself for not citing this.

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Re: 2009 Division-Watching
« Reply #243 on: May 08, 2009, 09:40:34 pm »
Coghlan started in place of Danny Boy tonight.

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Re: 2009 Division-Watching
« Reply #244 on: May 10, 2009, 02:14:57 pm »
Jordan Schaefer 0 for 37 with RISP - what a dork

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Re: 2009 Division-Watching
« Reply #245 on: May 11, 2009, 09:32:01 am »
It was Maybin that went down for the Fish.  Hermida's "arm" is now out in RF, and Bonifacio's defense single-handedly cost the Fish 2 out of their last 5 games.  And rather than getting an OF to play OF, Beinfest yet again gets and IF to play OF, and has him start playing the position in the largest OF in MLB.

When Miller comes off the DL, again, the net for the trade of Cabrera and Willis will be an often-injured train wreck reconstruction/fixer-upper project of a starting pitcher who in his 1.2 seasons with the Fish has put up a whopping 119 IP while amassing aa 5.97 ERA, 1.66 WHIP, and a .290 BAA.  I'm glad Larry Beinfest informed us of his genius, otherwise I'd be writing this off as yet another of his trademark atrociously idiotic deals. 

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Re: 2009 Division-Watching
« Reply #246 on: May 11, 2009, 12:46:07 pm »
It was Maybin that went down for the Fish.  Hermida's "arm" is now out in RF, and Bonifacio's defense single-handedly cost the Fish 2 out of their last 5 games.  And rather than getting an OF to play OF, Beinfest yet again gets and IF to play OF, and has him start playing the position in the largest OF in MLB.

When Miller comes off the DL, again, the net for the trade of Cabrera and Willis will be an often-injured train wreck reconstruction/fixer-upper project of a starting pitcher who in his 1.2 seasons with the Fish has put up a whopping 119 IP while amassing aa 5.97 ERA, 1.66 WHIP, and a .290 BAA.  I'm glad Larry Beinfest informed us of his genius, otherwise I'd be writing this off as yet another of his trademark atrociously idiotic deals. 

The trade has not paid off too well for the Tigers either. Man the Marlins love this lose-lose situation trades.

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« Reply #247 on: May 11, 2009, 12:51:27 pm »
The trade has not paid off too well for the Tigers either. Man the Marlins love this lose-lose situation trades.

44 HR, 149 RBI so far, and currently sitting on a 1.048 OPS, I think they're probably happy with Cabrera

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Re: 2009 Division-Watching
« Reply #248 on: May 11, 2009, 12:54:18 pm »
44 HR, 149 RBI so far, and currently sitting on a 1.048 OPS, I think they're probably happy with Cabrera

Yeah even out of shape he can mash  . . .

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Re: 2009 Division-Watching
« Reply #249 on: May 12, 2009, 07:50:41 pm »
44 HR, 149 RBI so far, and currently sitting on a 1.048 OPS, I think they're probably happy with Cabrera

But the expectations of the trade were completely different. 

After the trade, every major publication picked Detroit to win the World Series.  This was the deal that put the Tigers over the top.  The Kitties wound up dead last.  I'm not saying it was the trade that did them in -- but the expectation was both MCab and Dontrelle were the "missing pieces."  Far from it. 

Was MCab due to be a free agent?  I know Detroit signed him to a long term deal -- that was what had to be done to ice the deal. 

I think the Fish did OK in this deal -- its always a gamble to trade established players for prospects.  Florida was faced with the prospect of rebuilding without Cabrera either way.  They attempted to get some value for him. 

I also think they fleeced the Tigers as far as Willis was concerned.  The Fish had to know he was totally washed up. 

And is the jury still out on all of these prospects?  what has happened to Trahern?  Badenhop has a lot of promise and is doing well from what I can see.  I guess when I look at the rest of the group, DeLa Cruz is gone, and Maybin, Miller, and Rabelo have been disappointments. 

I have a bit of trouble feeling bad for the fans of the Fish when they have won two world titles in such a short time span, current mismanagement notwithstanding.