Author Topic: Plan "B" (Read 127954 times)

UpperDec · « **Reply #3150 on:** February 06, 2009, 09:17:16 pm »

Quote from: HalfSmokes on February 06, 2009, 05:49:53 pm

Exactly, why give up a pick for 1 year of an average to above average player? Unless we plan on making a push in that year, or think we can flip him for something more valuable that the pick we're giving up (probably top 5 in the second round), its a bad move.

Again, he is a type A this year. Next year he will likely be a type B at worst. We don't "lose" a draft pick. We would lose one this year but gain probably a better one next year (as a Type B). If you guys would rather have Anderson Hernandez -- well fine, but we really aren't "losing" a draft pick.

PatsNats28 · « **Reply #3151 on:** February 06, 2009, 10:11:40 pm »

Quick question - If a Type A player isn't signed by the start of the regular season, does the comp. pick still apply?

Nat of the Living Dead · « **Reply #3152 on:** February 07, 2009, 09:54:11 am »

Rotoworld.com:

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FOXSports.com's Ken Rosenthal reports that the Angels are interested in free agent outfielders Adam Dunn and Bobby Abreu.

"I would say we'll continue to look at different ways to improve the club," GM Tony Reagins said Friday. "If something makes sense for us, we'd look at it. We'd have to see what the parameters are, how that player fits." Some in the baseball world believe that Abreu or Dunn could be signed for one-year, and around $8 million. If that's the case, either would be a steal for the Halos, who are in need of a left-handed power hitter with Garret Anderson headed out the door.

If true, the chances of the Nats getting either one just went down quite a bit of percentage points.

tomterp · « **Reply #3153 on:** February 07, 2009, 09:57:15 am »

Quote from: Nat of the LivingDead on February 07, 2009, 09:54:11 am

Rotoworld.com:

If true, the chances of the Nats getting either one just went down quite a bit of percentage points.

The Angels offense sucks, they could really use a Dunn in their lineup.

DCFan · « **Reply #3154 on:** February 07, 2009, 10:01:53 am »

Quote from: Nat of the LivingDead on February 07, 2009, 09:54:11 am

Rotoworld.com:

If true, the chances of the Nats getting either one just went down quite a bit of percentage points.

Sad but true. Very disconcerting news.

ronnynat · « **Reply #3155 on:** February 07, 2009, 10:26:10 am »

The Angels will get Abreu.

MrMadison · « **Reply #3156 on:** February 07, 2009, 12:18:44 pm »

personally, I think we should take whatever we offered to Dunn and offer the same to Abreu, and see who takes it first.

Dunn is starting to piss me off with this "anywhere but Washington" crap.

hammondsnats · « **Reply #3157 on:** February 07, 2009, 12:49:44 pm »

Quote from: tomterp on February 07, 2009, 09:57:15 am

The Angels offense sucks, they could really use a Dunn in their lineup.

so could we

Quote from: MrMadison on February 07, 2009, 12:18:44 pm

personally, I think we should take whatever we offered to Dunn and offer the same to Abreu, and see who takes it first.

Dunn is starting to piss me off with this "anywhere but Washington" crap.

i'm warming up to the idea of abreu as well. i just wish we would offer one a slugger couldn't refuse and be done with it. oh well.

KnorrForYourMoney · « **Reply #3158 on:** February 07, 2009, 12:56:56 pm »

Quote from: MrMadison on February 07, 2009, 12:18:44 pm

personally, I think we should take whatever we offered to Dunn and offer the same to Abreu, and see who takes it first.

Dunn is starting to piss me off with this "anywhere but Washington" crap.

It's a business. You don't act based on emotion or indignation like this.

Having said that, it'd just be good business practice to throw a bit more at both of these guys than the Angels and see which one bites.

Natskins · « **Reply #3159 on:** February 07, 2009, 03:10:51 pm »

Ah, the thread about the mythical "Plan B" is still alive and well.

Nat of the Living Dead · « **Reply #3160 on:** February 07, 2009, 03:29:42 pm »

Quote from: Natskins on February 07, 2009, 03:10:51 pm

Ah, the thread about the mythical "Plan B" is still alive and well.

Barely. Several times it has needed a shot of adrenaline and a defibrillator.

ronnynat · « **Reply #3161 on:** February 08, 2009, 12:38:16 pm »

MLBTR:

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Astros Pursuing Dunn?

According to Phil Rogers of the Chicago Tribune, the Astros may be planning to offer Adam Dunn a one-year contract before camp begins. Rogers writes,

"Dunn, a 40-homer man for five straight seasons, would allow the Astros to move Hunter Pence to center field and Michael Bourn to the bench. That would mean a huge lift to run-production. Dunn has multi-year offers on the table, including one from Washington, but clearly isn't crazy about them."

It remains to be seen whether Dunn would seriously consider a one-year deal or not. For a recap, here's a write up on the market for the unsigned slugger.

I didn't think the Astros were looking for another outfielder, but they might be the best fit for Dunn.

Nat of the Living Dead · « **Reply #3162 on:** February 08, 2009, 12:39:42 pm »

And the offers start coming out of the woodwork.

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #3163 on:** February 08, 2009, 12:40:01 pm »

That would be the ultimate F U. Dunn takes a 1-year deal to go play with the garbage Astros instead of taking a 2-year deal with the Nats.

ronnynat · « **Reply #3164 on:** February 08, 2009, 12:41:58 pm »

Quote from: sportsfan882 on February 08, 2009, 12:40:01 pm

That would be the ultimate F U. Dunn takes a 1-year deal to go play with the garbage Astros instead of taking a 2-year deal with the Nats.

I like the Astros' offense, and Dunn would fit in better with that kind of talent around him. I wouldn't take it as a "freak you" to us, just a smart move for him.

Nat of the Living Dead · « **Reply #3165 on:** February 08, 2009, 12:45:46 pm »

Quote from: sportsfan882 on February 08, 2009, 12:40:01 pm

That would be the ultimate F U. Dunn takes a 1-year deal to go play with the garbage Astros instead of taking a 2-year deal with the Nats.

I wouldn't hold it against him at all. Look where he would be coming: to a 102-loss team. He isn't going to be going anywhere with the Astros, but right now he knows he probably wouldn't be going anywhere with the Nationals either and he would be stuck in DC on top of that.

DCFan · « **Reply #3166 on:** February 08, 2009, 12:47:08 pm »

Quote from: sportsfan882 on February 08, 2009, 12:40:01 pm

That would be the ultimate F U. Dunn takes a 1-year deal to go play with the garbage Astros instead of taking a 2-year deal with the Nats.

How do you know what we offered him?

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #3167 on:** February 08, 2009, 12:49:07 pm »

Quote from: ronnynat on February 08, 2009, 12:41:58 pm

I like the Astros' offense, and Dunn would fit in better with that kind of talent around him. I wouldn't take it as a "freak you" to us, just a smart move for him.

I would but then again he's already told us to freak off as our offer has been on the table for a long while now and he has done nothing to indicate he wants to play here. Why sign someone who doesn't even want to be here in the first place?

Nat of the Living Dead · « **Reply #3168 on:** February 08, 2009, 12:52:10 pm »

Quote from: sportsfan882 on February 08, 2009, 12:49:07 pm

I would but then again he's already told us to freak off as our offer has been on the table for a long while now and he has done nothing to indicate he wants to play here. Why sign someone who doesn't even want to be here in the first place?

He just doesn't want to play here. The Teixeira Situation really messed things up for the Nationals. If Teix wasn't so gung-ho about being a Yank and he did sign here, I guarantee Dunn would be a National right now too if we still were offering him something. Since Teix said no, every FA is keeping their distance because they don't see much promise here right now.

It is all up to the players we have to improve our fortunes. Time to suck it up.

PatsNats28 · « **Reply #3169 on:** February 08, 2009, 12:58:03 pm »

Well Ryan Howard resigned with the Phillies for 3 years, 54 million. The last year is an FA year, correct?

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #3170 on:** February 08, 2009, 01:04:41 pm »

Quote from: SoxNats08 on February 08, 2009, 12:58:03 pm

Well Ryan Howard resigned with the Phillies for 3 years, 54 million. The last year is an FA year, correct?

yes. $18 M a year. what a deal

UMDNats · « **Reply #3171 on:** February 08, 2009, 01:12:28 pm »

I'm done with Adam Dunn. It's clear he doesn't want to come here and the last thing this team needs is a guy who just wants to get through his contract and make his money.

Forget Dunn, maybe look at Abreu, but otherwise, just get ready for ST. I'm sick of these babies in the free agent market demanding ridiculous contracts, and the Nats getting thrown around like a ragdoll.

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #3172 on:** February 08, 2009, 01:18:30 pm »

Quote from: UMDNats on February 08, 2009, 01:12:28 pm

I'm done with Adam Dunn. It's clear he doesn't want to come here and the last thing this team needs is a guy who just wants to get through his contract and make his money.

Forget Dunn, maybe look at Abreu, but otherwise, just get ready for ST. I'm sick of these babies in the free agent market demanding ridiculous contracts, and the Nats getting thrown around like a ragdoll.

QFT. freak Adam Dunn.

spidernat · « **Reply #3173 on:** February 08, 2009, 01:20:27 pm »

Quote from: DCFan on February 08, 2009, 12:47:08 pm

How do you know what we offered him?

We really don't know but if you believe the article it claims he has a multi-year from the Nats. It also implies that Washington's offer is not the only one. Again, it's difficult to know which story to believe.

DCFan · « **Reply #3174 on:** February 08, 2009, 01:28:17 pm »

Quote from: spidernat on February 08, 2009, 01:20:27 pm

We really don't know but if you believe the article it claims he has a multi-year from the Nats. It also implies that Washington's offer is not the only one. Again, it's difficult to know which story to believe.

He was just stating rather definitively that we've extended Dunn a 2 year contract. I'm sure that it it a multi-year offer but I don't believe any bit of the details have been leaked out.