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Offline ronnynat

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Re: Plan "B"
« Reply #1350 on: January 06, 2009, 10:44:18 am »

Cubs are not going after Dunn, and the Dodgers will sign Manny. The Cubs just balanced their payroll to go after Bradley, and there's a slight chance they traded away DeRosa to trade for Peavy. The only team after Dunn right now is us, and maybe a team like the Blue Jays or something, but they are not offering big money, 0 chance.

I think I read somewhere that the Orioles are interested, too.

MrMadison

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Re: Plan "B"
« Reply #1351 on: January 06, 2009, 10:44:26 am »
I don't think that the Cubs will sign both Bradley and Dunn, it was one or the other.

I think the Dodgers really want Manny to come back, they are just trying to play hardball with Boras. I don't think they are serious about Dunn.

MrMadison

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Re: Plan "B"
« Reply #1352 on: January 06, 2009, 10:44:49 am »
I think I read somewhere that the Orioles are interested, too.

wishful thinking by Orioles fans.

Offline ronnynat

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Re: Plan "B"
« Reply #1353 on: January 06, 2009, 10:45:32 am »
wishful thinking by Orioles fans.

I thought I saw it on MLBTR a week or so ago. Not sure, though.

Re: Plan "B"
« Reply #1354 on: January 06, 2009, 10:47:13 am »
The only team after Dunn right now is us, and maybe a team like the Blue Jays or something, but they are not offering big money, 0 chance.

One of the last big bats on the market and only a 102-loss team is after him? That's naive to believe.

Teixeira showed us one thing and that is it takes a combo of money and winning to get the big fish. We have one, but we certainly don't have the other.

Offline HalfSmokes

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Re: Plan "B"
« Reply #1355 on: January 06, 2009, 10:49:54 am »
Pretend your not a Nats fan, but you are a hot commodity on the FA Market. Your whole life has been devoted to this game and the ultimate dream: winning the WS or being put into position to. You already have more money than any cop, teacher, firefighter, or average joe will ever see in his life, so your not worried about your finances.

Does Washington, at this point in time, seem like the most exciting option or destination to you?

Dunn knows he is running out of time. He isn't there yet, but the corridor is narrowing down for him. He is going to want to at least be in the playoffs. His friend, Austin Kearns, isn't close to the playoffs.

That assumes a professional athelete's dream is to get a ring, and doesn't care about finances. Maybe his dream is to have enough money to buy a huge yacht and sail the Carribean, or to just have obscence amounts of money. He can essentially double his net worth with this contract. If I were in his position, my concern wouldn't be getting the rign (how many guys went to the yanks over the last few years looking for one and ended up empty handed), it would be putting my family in the best position possible for what could be 50 years of retirement  (at the very least drastically reduced earnings).

Re: Plan "B"
« Reply #1356 on: January 06, 2009, 10:54:01 am »
That assumes a professional athelete's dream is to get a ring, and doesn't care about finances. Maybe his dream is to have enough money to buy a huge yacht and sail the Carribean, or to just have obscence amounts of money. He can essentially double his net worth with this contract. If I were in his position, my concern wouldn't be getting the rign (how many guys went to the yanks over the last few years looking for one and ended up empty handed), it would be putting my family in the best position possible for what could be 50 years of retirement  (at the very least drastically reduced earnings).

Why not have both? For arguments sake, lets say the Dodgers perhaps? They offer him both: a pretty penny and a chance to play on a contender. A situation like that automatically puts the Nats in the crapper.

Be as it may, the chances of Dunn coming to DC are slim.

Offline HalfSmokes

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Re: Plan "B"
« Reply #1357 on: January 06, 2009, 10:55:56 am »
Why not have both? For arguments sake, lets say the Dodgers perhaps? They offer him both: a pretty penny and a chance to play on a contender. A situation like that automatically puts the Nats in the crapper.

Be as it may, the chances of Dunn coming to DC are slim.

I'm just saying, if they are throwing out a one year contract, or a low ball number, and we are throwing out a multi-year for serious money, he may pick us over winning.

Offline ronnynat

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Re: Plan "B"
« Reply #1358 on: January 06, 2009, 11:01:02 am »
Hey, we're always potentially two years away from being a contender. As long as we don't sign Dunn (or whoever) to just a one-year contract, they can always hope that we'll get there sooner rather than later.

Offline natsfan4evr

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Re: Plan "B"
« Reply #1359 on: January 06, 2009, 11:06:47 am »
Has anyone heard any updates about Dunn or Hudson lately? I haven't heard anything since around the Winter meetings.

Offline blue911

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Re: Plan "B"
« Reply #1360 on: January 06, 2009, 11:06:47 am »
I'm just saying, if they are throwing out a one year contract, or a low ball number, and we are throwing out a multi-year for serious money, he may pick us over winning.

The market is crap for players, maybe a one year deal is all Dunn wants.

Offline UpperDec

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Re: Plan "B"
« Reply #1361 on: January 06, 2009, 11:35:52 am »
Thought this was an interesting comment from the Seattle Times regarding their needs and again points to the Nationals having a good chance at landing Dunn.

"other free-agent bats still available include outfielders Adam Dunn (who sources say has a strong preference to remain in the National League)"

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/mariners/2008593539_mari060.html



Offline KnorrForYourMoney

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Re: Plan "B"
« Reply #1362 on: January 06, 2009, 11:37:34 am »
I'd actually like more than one year for Dunn, but it'd be nice to have maybe a club option for 2010 so we can decide whether his defense is too atrocious.

Offline DCFan

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Re: Plan "B"
« Reply #1363 on: January 06, 2009, 11:40:03 am »
I'd actually like more than one year for Dunn, but it'd be nice to have maybe a club option for 2010 so we can decide whether his defense is too atrocious.

If all he wanted was a 1 year deal he'd have accepted arbitration from the D-Backs and be assured of a decent pay raise above the $13 mil that he made last year.

Offline hammondsnats

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Re: Plan "B"
« Reply #1364 on: January 06, 2009, 11:40:26 am »
hey mrmadison 8) http://www.wnff.net/index.php/topic,11663.msg314427.html#msg314427

but i think our chances of getting dunn are better than they were for teixeira.  we're just going to have to overpay, make an offer he can't refuse.   

MrMadison

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Re: Plan "B"
« Reply #1365 on: January 06, 2009, 11:42:40 am »
If all he wanted was a 1 year deal he'd have accepted arbitration from the D-Backs and be assured of a decent pay raise above the $13 mil that he made last year.

can't accept something that was never offered.

Offline DCFan

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Re: Plan "B"
« Reply #1366 on: January 06, 2009, 11:43:35 am »
hey mrmadison 8) http://www.wnff.net/index.php/topic,11663.msg314427.html#msg314427

but i think our chances of getting dunn are better than they were for teixeira.  we're just going to have to overpay, make an offer he can't refuse. 

And hope that his best bud, Austin Kearns, has nothing but good things to say about the Nats.  :spaz:

Offline hammondsnats

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« Reply #1367 on: January 06, 2009, 11:44:44 am »
And hope that his best bud, Austin Kearns, has nothing but good things to say about the Nats.  :spaz:

yeah maybe kearns can come through in the clutch for once.  after all we are paying him 8 million this year.  maybe it's to lure free agents, because he's a nice guy!

Offline blue911

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Re: Plan "B"
« Reply #1368 on: January 06, 2009, 11:48:52 am »
If all he wanted was a 1 year deal he'd have accepted arbitration from the D-Backs and be assured of a decent pay raise above the $13 mil that he made last year.

That's all well and good except the Diamondbacks didn't offer him arbitration.

Offline DCFan

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Re: Plan "B"
« Reply #1369 on: January 06, 2009, 11:48:53 am »
can't accept something that was never offered.

Right you are! Dumb move by the D-backs or maybe it can just be blamed on the economy.  :glug:

MrMadison

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Re: Plan "B"
« Reply #1370 on: January 06, 2009, 11:51:07 am »
Right you are! Dumb move by the D-backs or maybe it can just be blamed on the economy.  :glug:

which is why we need to sign him.

he fits every need we have for a middle-of-the-order bat, and he DOESN'T COST A DRAFT PICK!

it's a no-brainer really. it needs to get done. we can sort out whether Dunn or Willingham plays 1B later. get the bat in the lineup.

Offline HalfSmokes

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Re: Plan "B"
« Reply #1371 on: January 06, 2009, 11:55:08 am »
Right you are! Dumb move by the D-backs or maybe it can just be blamed on the economy.  :glug:

They don't think they need him - Jackson, Brynes, and Tracy to play some combination of LF and First- why waste the money on giving Dunn a raise?

Offline DCFan

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Re: Plan "B"
« Reply #1372 on: January 06, 2009, 11:59:28 am »
They don't think they need him - Jackson, Brynes, and Tracy to play some combination of LF and First- why waste the money on giving Dunn a raise?

Then they shouldn't have given up the prospects.  From what I saw, they're blaming the economy.

Offline HalfSmokes

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Re: Plan "B"
« Reply #1373 on: January 06, 2009, 12:05:48 pm »
Then they shouldn't have given up the prospects.  From what I saw, they're blaming the economy.

Byrnes was injured last year and they thought they had a shot at the NL west when the made the trade, why not go for it?

Offline hammondsnats

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Re: Plan "B"
« Reply #1374 on: January 06, 2009, 01:15:08 pm »
damnit, it really, really, really hurts seeing Teix in a Yanks uniform.  He would've really helped us out.  10/200 would've done it 8) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GO OUT AND GET freakIN DUNN RIGHT NOW DAMNIT.