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Offline natsfan4evr

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #3750 on: December 23, 2008, 04:02:57 pm »
They are like a lynch mob going after Belkast in OH now.

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #3751 on: December 23, 2008, 04:03:24 pm »
They are like a lynch mob going after Belkast in OH now.

Haha eat it stab elk

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #3752 on: December 23, 2008, 04:03:36 pm »
and we didn't make the best offer.  it's reported as 8yr/$180 million.  there ya have it.

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #3753 on: December 23, 2008, 04:03:52 pm »
But at what cost?

We definitely need a legit 1B-man, I agree, but just because Dunn is available doesn't mean we should jump on him. I really don't know who we could acquire. Tough spot for the Nationals. They can't afford to stick with NJ and Dmitri but it also doesn't make much sense to ink Dunn to a long-term deal.

I'd offer Dunn 3 years.

and if that doesn't get it, then we take our chances with Bill Rhinehart.

right now, Dunn is the best bat that is "capable" of playing First Base. that is why I'm in favor of getting him.  the best bat on the Market is Manny, but do we really want him? and who plays first if we get him? 

Offline spidernat

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #3754 on: December 23, 2008, 04:04:42 pm »
They are like a lynch mob going after Belkast in OH now.

Share some quotes please.

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #3755 on: December 23, 2008, 04:04:54 pm »
and we didn't make the best offer.  it's reported as 8yr/$180 million.  there ya have it.

we offered the same amount of money as the Yankees did.

I suppose I don't totally understand Baseball Finance, but we didn't low-ball him at all, imo.  we made a good, competitive offer.

Offline PANatsFan

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #3756 on: December 23, 2008, 04:06:12 pm »
we offered the same amount of money as the Yankees did.

I suppose I don't totally understand Baseball Finance, but we didn't low-ball him at all, imo.  we made a good, competitive offer.

A competitive offer is 8 year/180. What if we had offer 12 years, 180? It's not the same.

Offline natsfan4evr

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #3757 on: December 23, 2008, 04:06:22 pm »
Share some quotes please.
I would, but the board keeps crashing

MrMadison

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #3758 on: December 23, 2008, 04:06:53 pm »
A competitive offer is 8 year/180. What if we had offer 12 years, 180? It's not the same.

they offered 8 years 180, we offered 9 years 180.

what's not competitive about a year's difference?

should we have offered 5/180 then?

Offline Natskins

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #3759 on: December 23, 2008, 04:07:03 pm »

I suppose I don't totally understand Baseball Finance, but we didn't low-ball him at all, imo.  we made a good, competitive offer.

Yep, we absolutely did. We wouldn't have been in this thing 'til the last moment if we hadn't. Notice the O's and Angels were nowhere to be found when the bidding started going up. We were in the mix, Tex just didn't want to play here.

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #3760 on: December 23, 2008, 04:09:01 pm »
Alright guys, im off. Wake me up at Spring Training, maybe something exciting happens in the next 3 months. Will the groundhog see his shadow?

Offline DCFan

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #3761 on: December 23, 2008, 04:09:33 pm »
Heyman says it was 8/180 with a full no-trade provision.

Offline PANatsFan

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #3762 on: December 23, 2008, 04:10:04 pm »
they offered 8 years 180, we offered 9 years 180.

what's not competitive about a year's difference?

should we have offered 5/180 then?

Man, you are deliberately misunderstanding fractions. If he has the opt out, he gets more per year before he bails.

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #3763 on: December 23, 2008, 04:17:12 pm »
So now that the annual AL East arms race is in full swing, Manny back to Boston?   :rofl:

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #3764 on: December 23, 2008, 04:17:48 pm »
I might become a Tampa Bay Rays fan if there no Nats. I like the underdog-made-good story, and I'd love to root for them against the Yanks, Sox and O's. Hell, they're my second favorite team now.

I like that plan...

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #3765 on: December 23, 2008, 04:17:54 pm »
8 years @ 180 million > 9 years @ 180 million.

Yeah 9 years is one more year, but he's getting paid more money to play in 8 years than 9.  The Yankees made the best offer, so I don't want to hear we did.  He took the best offer on the table.  I, along with others said from the start, we were going to have to overpay for him if we wanted him. 

I am glad to see we were involved and made it this far, the Lerners get points for that, but we did not make the best offer.  I hope this is the last time I post in this thread, b/c I need more positive vibes than 151 pages of "are we getting him, are we getting him" to turn into reality of "no we didn't."

Goodbye Tex and the Nats... thread, we had a good run.

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #3766 on: December 23, 2008, 04:18:47 pm »
8 years @ 180 million > 9 years @ 180 million.

Yeah 9 years is one more year, but he's getting paid more money to play in 8 years than 9.  The Yankees made the best offer, so I don't want to hear we did.  He took the best offer on the table.  I, along with others said from the start, we were going to have to overpay for him if we wanted him. 

I am glad to see we were involved and made it this far, the Lerners get points for that, but we did not make the best offer.  I hope this is the last time I post in this thread, b/c I need more positive vibes than 151 pages of "are we getting him, are we getting him" to turn into reality of "no we didn't."

Goodbye Tex and the Nats... thread, we had a good run.
How do you know we only made 9-180? That's not official is it?

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #3767 on: December 23, 2008, 04:19:31 pm »
8 years @ 180 million > 9 years @ 180 million.

Yeah 9 years is one more year, but he's getting paid more money to play in 8 years than 9.  The Yankees made the best offer, so I don't want to hear we did.  He took the best offer on the table.  I, along with others said from the start, we were going to have to overpay for him if we wanted him. 


well fine then. back to Lerners are Cheap, right?

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #3768 on: December 23, 2008, 04:21:01 pm »
Im impressed we were in the running but to make sure it wasnt the other option people were saying about em (were they just throwing out money to make it show that they "tried?") lets throw lots of money out to the other free agents and we can become the yankees lower free agent team!!

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #3769 on: December 23, 2008, 04:21:25 pm »
How do you know we only made 9-180? That's not official is it?

that's what it's being reported as 9/180.  if the numbers become official, i'll retract my statement. 

no mrmadison i didn't call them cheap in that.  all i said is we didn't give him the best offer. 

Offline DCFan

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #3770 on: December 23, 2008, 04:21:52 pm »
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-yankees-teixeira&prov=ap&type=lgns

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Teixeira’s deal raises the Yankees’ offseason spending spree to $423.5 million. Just last Thursday, the Yankees completed agreements with two pitchers, giving CC Sabathia a $161 million, seven-year contract and A.J. Burnett an $82.5 million, five-year deal.

The Yankees, preparing to move into their pricey new ballpark, will hold the four largest contracts in the sport. Third baseman Alex Rodriguez has baseball’s highest deal at $275 million over 10 years, and shortstop Derek Jeter is second at $189 million over 10 years.


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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #3772 on: December 23, 2008, 04:23:44 pm »
we offered the same amount of money as the Yankees did.
Didn't some of those reports last night claim the Nats may have gone to 9/190?

At any rate, we forced Boston to raise their offer, which raised what he's getting from the Yankees, so Boras should be happy with the Nats management, hopefully that serves us well in June with Strasburg.

Offline BerkeleyNat

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #3773 on: December 23, 2008, 04:25:35 pm »
either way, we need to acquire a left-handed hitting run producer. and a first baseman.

and we need to do it THIS offseason.  going to ST with last year's first basemen is unacceptable.

and going into ST this year with no proven and credible power bats is also unacceptable.

I'm on the Dunn bandwagon, unless we can swing a trade for Fielder or Gonzalez.

I agree 100%. Let's get Dunn, unless we can work out some kind of deal for Gonzalez.

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Re: Tex and the Nats...
« Reply #3774 on: December 23, 2008, 04:27:01 pm »
Didn't some of those reports last night claim the Nats may have gone to 9/190?

At any rate, we forced Boston to raise their offer, which raised what he's getting from the Yankees, so Boras should be happy with the Nats management, hopefully that serves us well in June with Strasburg.


If Boras some how freaks us with Strasburg, I will hate this freaking sport.

Some garbage, Tex "preferred the yankees this entire time"

He sold his soul to the devil for being with Boras and now he got something out of it.