College Football 2023-2024

[HalfSmokes]

Remember Deion Sanders? His Colorado team beat Arizona State (barely) to improve to 4-2. Stanford will almost certainly provide him with win #5 later this season. So he needs to beat just one more team to go to a bowl game. If he does that, it will be an amazing accomplishment given where this team was just a season ago.

I wonder if fox will find a way to get them into the playoffs

[1995hoo]

He would too.  But no. The most famous W&M alum.

John Tyler (who has a living grandson)?

[imref]

He would too.  But no. The most famous W&M alum.

i told my kids that losing to UVA is no big deal because they were founded by a W&M alumnus.

[Natsinpwc]

i told my kids that losing to UVA is no big deal because they were founded by a W&M alumnus.

His statue on the W&M appears by some to be looking west to Charlottesville but he’s actually just staring at one of the girls dorms.

[Natsinpwc]

John Tyler (who has a living grandson)?

Heard that about Tyler. Pretty amazing.

[JCA-CrystalCity]

I wonder if fox will find a way to get them into the playoffs

AFLAC

[Natsinpwc]

JMU game at Noon Saturday is on ESPN2.

[GataNats]

JMU game at Noon Saturday is on ESPN2.

GATA!

[imref]

For those of you who remember the band Everything from JMU in the early 90s, they are playing with the marching band at homecoming this year.

[Natsinpwc]

GATA!

We had not heard back from you on that game.

[imref]

JMU defeats Marshall last night in Marshall 20-9.

So much for not being able to compete in D1. They are now 7-0 (but still not bowl-eligible unless someone else declines a bid). They should win out their final 5 games and finish the season unbeaten. There's nobody left on their schedule that's anywhere near their level.

[HalfSmokes]

They should go ahead and claim a share of the title

[Five Banners]

JMU defeats Marshall last night in Marshall 20-9.

So much for not being able to compete in D1. They are now 7-0 (but still not bowl-eligible unless someone else declines a bid). They should win out their final 5 games and finish the season unbeaten. There's nobody left on their schedule that's anywhere near their level.

Are they actively looking to join division one?

[HalfSmokes]

Are they actively looking to join division one?

They're in the sun belt now (at least for now- a school with 20k students and a good football team could move up)

[imref]

They're in the sun belt now (at least for now- a school with 20k students and a good football team could move up)

I wouldn't be surprised to see them in the ACC at some point soon. I don't know if they'd need to build a bigger stadium but I've heard that an expansion of the current stadium is already in the works.

I have to think that their coach would have his pick of power-5 jobs if he wanted to leave. IIRC his name came up a lot for vacancies two years ago but he wanted to stay at JMU.

[UMDNats]

The ACC is basically a minor-league conference in five years but it seems like a solid destination for JMU. They're probably better than 90% of ACC programs right now.

[Natsinpwc]

Are they actively looking to join division one?

They’re in division one FBS now. Just not with the Power 5. They are with the poor stepchildren. 

[Natsinpwc]

The ACC is basically a minor-league conference in five years but it seems like a solid destination for JMU. They're probably better than 90% of ACC programs right now.

Who knows what will happen but the ACC would thumb their nose at them based on academic reputation. That’s how they got Cal and Stanford. Also no way they could compete in basketball and some other sports.

I would like to think the non power 5 schools could form a new organization and say freak off to the Power 5.  Make them pay more to schedule football games with them. Have their own championship. 

[HalfSmokes]

Who knows what will happen but the ACC would thumb their nose at them based on academic reputation. That’s how they got Cal and Stanford. Also no way they could compete in basketball and some other sports.

I would like to think the non power 5 schools could form a new organization and say freak off to the Power 5.  Make them pay more to schedule football games with them. Have their own championship. 

Anecdotal, but they seem to be getting a lot of very smart FCPS kids who fall short of UVA. I wouldn't be surprised if they end up with better stats than some ACC schools in a few years

I think when the Big10 media deal is up all of CFB will change. Cable revenue will be down even more. I think if Ohio State and Michigan are faced with choosing between taking less money and jettisoning Rutgers, Maryland and Iowa, those schools are gone

[UMDNats]

Ohio State and Michigan need teams to play that aren't USC, Oregon, Penn State. Good luck convincing fans you're a blue blood when one bad coaching hire means 2-10 seasons because you're only playing elite teams. I think there's some risk but I'd be absolutely shocked in the Big Ten decided to kick teams out, would be insanely short-sighted. I could see the meaning of "The big ten" change as it means less but the only way I see the conference kicking schools out is if football is being separated entirely or some crap.

[Natsinpwc]

Anecdotal, but they seem to be getting a lot of very smart FCPS kids who fall short of UVA. I wouldn't be surprised if they end up with better stats than some ACC schools in a few years

I think when the Big10 media deal is up all of CFB will change. Cable revenue will be down even more. I think if Ohio State and Michigan are faced with choosing between taking less money and jettisoning Rutgers, Maryland and Iowa, those schools are gone

I am sure JMU is a better school or at least as good as Clemson or NC State. It’s just the UNC/Duke click of the conference are snooty.  Cal and Stanford fit into their world. They really never wanted VT or FSU.  I guess it’s all a brave new world.  It would really make the most sense for the now Power 4 to just become one conference with regional divisions.

[HalfSmokes]

Ohio State and Michigan need teams to play that aren't USC, Oregon, Penn State. Good luck convincing fans you're a blue blood when one bad coaching hire means 2-10 seasons because you're only playing elite teams. I think there's some risk but I'd be absolutely shocked in the Big Ten decided to kick teams out, would be insanely short-sighted. I could see the meaning of "The big ten" change as it means less but the only way I see the conference kicking schools out is if football is being separated entirely or some crap.

I can easily see the best of the conferences leaving to form their own league to keep revenue for themselves. I think these are the last deals where the pot actually grows. No one has figured out how to get people to directly pay at rates that make up for the loss of cable. A super league could get NFL level money and they wouldn't have to split it with schools that nobody wants to watch

[Natsinpwc]

Ohio State and Michigan need teams to play that aren't USC, Oregon, Penn State. Good luck convincing fans you're a blue blood when one bad coaching hire means 2-10 seasons because you're only playing elite teams. I think there's some risk but I'd be absolutely shocked in the Big Ten decided to kick teams out, would be insanely short-sighted. I could see the meaning of "The big ten" change as it means less but the only way I see the conference kicking schools out is if football is being separated entirely or some crap.

Yea. I’ve heard that about the top SEC programs being unhappy about sharing football revenue with schools like Vandy and Missouri.  So fine.  Kick them out and have the top schools go 8-4 every year.

[Natsinpwc]

So a big conference of:

Michigan
Ohio State
USC
Oregon
Notre Dame
Clemson
Alabama
Georgia
Texas
And a handful of others.

Someone will have to lose games.

[HalfSmokes]

So a big conference of:

Michigan
Ohio State
USC
Oregon
Notre Dame
Clemson
Alabama
Georgia
Texas
And a handful of others.

Someone will have to lose games.

Sure, but how much would fox and ESPN pay for those TV rights especially if they had their own playoffs and championship and didn't play schools outside of their league. If you could get it to 24, you'd have a viable league with TV rights worth a lot more than any school is getting now