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Re: College Football 2023-2024
« Reply #25: August 07, 2023, 06:33:14 PM »
The Alternating Coasts Conference?

Well, why should the B1G be the only conference to span the nation?

(I think all this is pretty stupid. I know there's money involved, but the travel is nuts.)

Lots of preliminary discussions out there.

https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/38152204/acc-begin-discussing-cal-stanford-additions

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Re: College Football 2023-2024
« Reply #26: August 07, 2023, 06:36:25 PM »
The Alternating Coasts Conference?

Abnormally Conceived Conference

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Re: College Football 2023-2024
« Reply #27: August 07, 2023, 06:36:33 PM »
The Alternating Coasts Conference?

Well, why should the B1G be the only conference to span the nation?

(I think all this is pretty stupid. I know there's money involved, but the travel is nuts.)
They just need to kick Miami and Florida State out to make room.


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Re: College Football 2023-2024
« Reply #29: August 07, 2023, 07:19:14 PM »
Reminds me of when the East Coast Hockey League had a team in Anchorage.

Maybe they could call it the Pacific–Atlantic Coasts Conference, shortened to PAC-C. My brother said "All Coasts Conference."

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Re: College Football 2023-2024
« Reply #30: August 08, 2023, 08:48:54 AM »
Lots of preliminary discussions out there.

https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/38152204/acc-begin-discussing-cal-stanford-additions


How do these megaconferences handle low revenue sports? For football and hoops, I get that it might be worth it to play far flung schools.  The hockey conferences outside the Hockey East and ECAC have big travel distances but have OK revenues. Baseball manages, and LAX features really weird conferences (e.g., Denver in the Big East, Hopkins in the B1G). I guess soccer teams are cheaper and are in the same boat as baseball and LAX, and volleyball gets by, too. Is it mostly cross-subsidy?

For example, how many sports does Maryland compete in the B1G? I know the ACC now only has 5 men's LAX teams so they didn't have an automatic bid (they did have the top 3 seeds), so I'm guessing there's a lot of sports that schools don't compete in or there's no conference champioinship.

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Re: College Football 2023-2024
« Reply #31: August 08, 2023, 08:53:52 AM »
The Alternating Coasts Conference?

Well, why should the B1G be the only conference to span the nation?

(I think all this is pretty stupid. I know there's money involved, but the travel is nuts.)

Big XII, however many teams are in it, has a huge footprint. Wasn't there something like the All America Conference that had a huge footprint with like UConn and Boise State in football?

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Re: College Football 2023-2024
« Reply #32: August 08, 2023, 10:23:14 AM »
Big XII, however many teams are in it, has a huge footprint. Wasn't there something like the All America Conference that had a huge footprint with like UConn and Boise State in football?

At one point, prior to the conference fragmenting and the football schools leaving, the Big East was negotiating to add San Diego State and Boise State, although ultimately they both elected to remain in the Mountain West.

Also at one point, the Western Athletic Conference stretched from Hawaii to Louisiana.

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« Reply #33: August 08, 2023, 10:28:57 AM »


How do these megaconferences handle low revenue sports? For football and hoops, I get that it might be worth it to play far flung schools.  The hockey conferences outside the Hockey East and ECAC have big travel distances but have OK revenues. Baseball manages, and LAX features really weird conferences (e.g., Denver in the Big East, Hopkins in the B1G). I guess soccer teams are cheaper and are in the same boat as baseball and LAX, and volleyball gets by, too. Is it mostly cross-subsidy?

For example, how many sports does Maryland compete in the B1G? I know the ACC now only has 5 men's LAX teams so they didn't have an automatic bid (they did have the top 3 seeds), so I'm guessing there's a lot of sports that schools don't compete in or there's no conference champioinship.

They hope that the conference payouts are enough to make up for travel costs. I guess it sucks to be a softball player when league games are on week nights and you have schools on the other coast in your conference. Softball players at UW are already speaking out saying this isn't what they signed up for.

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Re: College Football 2023-2024
« Reply #34: August 08, 2023, 11:08:58 AM »
William and Mary ranked #8 nationally in the pre-season FCS coaches poll.

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« Reply #35: August 08, 2023, 11:21:43 AM »


How do these megaconferences handle low revenue sports? For football and hoops, I get that it might be worth it to play far flung schools.  The hockey conferences outside the Hockey East and ECAC have big travel distances but have OK revenues. Baseball manages, and LAX features really weird conferences (e.g., Denver in the Big East, Hopkins in the B1G). I guess soccer teams are cheaper and are in the same boat as baseball and LAX, and volleyball gets by, too. Is it mostly cross-subsidy?

For example, how many sports does Maryland compete in the B1G? I know the ACC now only has 5 men's LAX teams so they didn't have an automatic bid (they did have the top 3 seeds), so I'm guessing there's a lot of sports that schools don't compete in or there's no conference champioinship.
I think the non revenue sports all have championships and such. The revenue from football and basketball funds it all. It all seems crazy.

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Re: College Football 2023-2024
« Reply #36: August 08, 2023, 11:33:19 AM »
If you want to know what teams a school fields, Wikipedia's articles on the various conferences have tables showing the men's and women's sports the leagues sponsor and the ones in which each school competes (example: Syracuse is the lone ACC member that doesn't field a baseball team). Some schools compete in sports not sponsored by their conference—perhaps most notably, the SEC does not sponsor men's soccer, so any SEC schools that wish to field a men's soccer team must do so in another league. Similarly, the ACC doesn't sponsor hockey, so Notre Dame's men's team competes in the Big Ten and Boston College's competes in Hockey East. (The articles include tables showing where schools' teams compete when their main conference doesn't sponsor a sport.)

That's the sort of thing for which Wikipedia is probably reasonably reliable because there's not a lot of reason why someone would want to vandalize that sort of material.

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Re: College Football 2023-2024
« Reply #39: September 01, 2023, 09:00:56 AM »
The Pac-4 already has a website.
PAC 2 now. Cal and Stanford to the ACC along with SMU. 

Seems strange sitting here in Big XII country.  Orlando. LOL.

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« Reply #40: September 01, 2023, 09:04:03 AM »
It sucks for all of the non-revenue sports that are about to get cut because of travel expenses.

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Re: College Football 2023-2024
« Reply #41: September 01, 2023, 10:42:28 AM »
W&M beats Campbell to start out at 1-0. You can't stop Bronson Yoder, you can only hope to contain him.

I saw Miami of Ohio plays The University of Miami this weekend. I'm putting $500 on Miami to win.

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« Reply #43: September 01, 2023, 12:14:54 PM »
https://www.pac-2.com/
So would they join the Mountain West or would the MWC join them and become the PAC whatever?

I still yearn for the day someone will eye the Philly tv market and take on Temple. Meanwhile Incan watch them play UT San Antonio.  Wish they had dropped a division and joined the CAA but that ship has sailed. Apparently more schools want out of Division 1 FCS because of lack of revenue there. Maybe there is some room for a merger of those schools and what remains of the FBS group.

Wonder also if some Power 4 schools will figure out a way to have more regionally focused conferences for their non revenue sports. 

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Re: College Football 2023-2024
« Reply #44: September 02, 2023, 05:10:00 PM »
Coach Prime’s team is going to be really, really fun to watch the rest of this season :)

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Re: College Football 2023-2024
« Reply #45: September 04, 2023, 07:54:14 PM »
JMU 6 point favorites over UVA

https://sportsbookwire.usatoday.com/article/james-madison-vs-virginia-football-odds-tips-and-betting-trends-9-9-2023/

:lmao:, but JMU’s rise in all sports is really impressive

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Re: College Football 2023-2024
« Reply #46: September 04, 2023, 08:37:46 PM »
JMU 6 point favorites over UVA

https://sportsbookwire.usatoday.com/article/james-madison-vs-virginia-football-odds-tips-and-betting-trends-9-9-2023/

:lmao:, but JMU’s rise in all sports is really impressive
wow. JMU’s qb looks really good.

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Re: College Football 2023-2024
« Reply #47: September 04, 2023, 10:41:17 PM »
Clemson fumbling themselves to death tonight.

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« Reply #48: September 05, 2023, 02:27:17 PM »
Clemson fumbling themselves to death tonight.

I'm going to laugh so hard if this ends up costing FSU the strength of schedule argument to get into the playoffs

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Re: College Football 2023-2024
« Reply #49: September 09, 2023, 12:47:55 AM »
https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/38353933/oregon-state-washington-state-file-complaint-pac-12

Oregon State and Washington State are going to court seeking to seize full control of the Pac-12's remaining assets. They could in theory operate as a two team conference for up to 2 years under NCAA rules. Two years, by the way, is when the MWC's exit fees disappear.