College Football 2023-2024

[JCA-CrystalCity]

My only analogy / comparable is college hockey, first with the ECAC / Hockey East split then with WCHA /NCHC /B1G splits. While the top-tier selective conferences (HE/NCHC) ended up with more tournament invites, the less intense, non-scholarship, smaller school conferences (ECAC / WCHA) ended up with several national championships and Frozen Four teams. Football of course is bigger time, but if you split off the secondary teams of the B1G and SEC, add in some of the ACC, you could get entertaining football, and as long as the conference champs got invites into an 8+ team tournament, they'd get the occasional hot run. Why not let SC, Vandy, maybe Miss St, GA Tech, Tex A&M form what is essentially a little SEC  for football and get back to a 6 or 8 conference set up for the FBS? more good TV games to stream this way, a bigger playoff for the bowls, etc...

[Natsinpwc]

I’ll be fine with the Big10’s style changing. Iowa is unwatchable and is one of the best teams in the conference. Michigan/PSU did not look like a marquee matchup. I just wonder how much longer fans of second tier teams in big conferences care. You used to be able to convince yourself that a good season would have your team in contention for a conference championship and a good bowl game. Now you’re adding two or three more powers per conference and the road is virtually impossible

I think you may be mixing up good offense and good football. I was listening to the pre game radio for the UCF game against OSU.  Both remain were averaging over 30 points on offense and UCF giving up over 30. I think OSU was giving up 25 a game which will have gone up.  It’s just different styles of football. SEC seems to be the best mix of offense and defense.

[Natsinpwc]

My only analogy / comparable is college hockey, first with the ECAC / Hockey East split then with WCHA /NCHC /B1G splits. While the top-tier selective conferences (HE/NCHC) ended up with more tournament invites, the less intense, non-scholarship, smaller school conferences (ECAC / WCHA) ended up with several national championships and Frozen Four teams. Football of course is bigger time, but if you split off the secondary teams of the B1G and SEC, add in some of the ACC, you could get entertaining football, and as long as the conference champs got invites into an 8+ team tournament, they'd get the occasional hot run. Why not let SC, Vandy, maybe Miss St, GA Tech, Tex A&M form what is essentially a little SEC  for football and get back to a 6 or 8 conference set up for the FBS? more good TV games to stream this way, a bigger playoff for the bowls, etc...

Because the big boys in the conferences need games they can count on as wins every year. Same reason the top 10-15 schools will never form their own super league. 

Edit.  Personally if there is no regional identity anymore I would like the idea of different league levels with promotion and relegation as in euro soccer.  But will never happen.

[HalfSmokes]

I think you may be mixing up good offense and good football. I was listening to the pre game radio for the UCF game against OSU.  Both remain were averaging over 30 points on offense and UCF giving up over 30. I think OSU was giving up 25 a game which will have gone up.  It’s just different styles of football. SEC seems to be the best mix of offense and defense.

The big 10 specialized is terrible offense against decent defenses. One style is better than the other and national championship results bear it out

[HalfSmokes]

Because the big boys in the conferences need games they can count on as wins every year. Same reason the top 10-15 schools will never form their own super league. 

Edit.  Personally if there is no regional identity anymore I would like the idea of different league levels with promotion and relegation as in euro soccer.  But will never happen.

What do you cheer for now as a Michigan state fan? Your odds to get lucky and win the conference are now zero. Your guaranteed rivalry games are no longer guaranteed

[Natsinpwc]

The big 10 specialized is terrible offense against decent defenses. One style is better than the other and national championship results bear it out

You are right over the last several years.  We shall see what happens this season.

[imref]

Texas A&M fires jimbo fisher. Still owes him $70-80 million.

[Natsinpwc]

Waivers denied for JMU and two other schools.  That was predictable. Virginia might sue.

[Ali the Baseball Cat]

Meh, just shut down a couple of Arts departments.

Texas A&M fires jimbo fisher. Still owes him $70-80 million.

[imref]

Waivers denied for JMU and two other schools.  That was predictable. Virginia might sue.

over, did you say it's over?

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/38913971/virginia-ag-threatens-legal-action-behalf-james-madison-football

[nfotiu]

It seems very likely there will not be enough bowl eligible teams, which would make JMU eligible anyway.   Why go through all this if they're likely to get in a bowl anyway?

[imref]

It seems very likely there will not be enough bowl eligible teams, which would make JMU eligible anyway.   Why go through all this if they're likely to get in a bowl anyway?

The ESPN piece notes they can get into a bowl if there aren't enough bowl eligible teams, but they want to bowl eligible for one of the "New Year's 6" bowls.  But they aren't going to get high enough to qualify for one of those anyway.

They bought their ticket, they knew what they were getting into, i say, let them crash....

[JCA-CrystalCity]

It seems very likely there will not be enough bowl eligible teams, which would make JMU eligible anyway.   Why go through all this if they're likely to get in a bowl anyway?

Miyares 2025

[JCA-CrystalCity]

The ESPN piece notes they can get into a bowl if there aren't enough bowl eligible teams, but they want to bowl eligible for one of the "New Year's 6" bowls.  But they aren't going to get high enough to qualify for one of those anyway.

They bought their ticket, they knew what they were getting into, i say, let them crash....

I thought they'd be the highest ranked team outside the power 5 conferences?

[blue911]

The ESPN piece notes they can get into a bowl if there aren't enough bowl eligible teams, but they want to bowl eligible for one of the "New Year's 6" bowls.  But they aren't going to get high enough to qualify for one of those anyway.

They bought their ticket, they knew what they were getting into, i say, let them crash....

That’s one of my favorite lines.

[JCA-CrystalCity]

3 way tie.first time in 40 years Ivy winner has 2 losses.

[imref]

Heck of a finish to JMU - App State. No more bowl talk.

[imref]

FSU QB suffers a really bad lower leg injury. Possibly compound.

[imref]

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/38960791/davidson-wildcats-barclay-briggs-nfl-draft-declaration-tweet-goes-viral

[HalfSmokes]

I’d like to thank Kentucky for helping to keep alive the possibility that an undefeated P5 team gets left out. As someone who roots for absurdity and hates FSU, that’s really the best case for the playoffs

[JCA-CrystalCity]

I’d like to thank Kentucky for helping to keep alive the possibility that an undefeated P5 team gets left out. As someone who roots for absurdity and hates FSU, that’s really the best case for the playoffs

do sec teams not play every team in their division?

[imref]

Freaking Alabama

[Natsinpwc]

Thank goodness the Hokies always have UVA to beat up on. Is that 19 of the last 20?

[Natsinpwc]

Early line is that Oregon is favored over undefeated Washington by 7.5. Can’t argue with that. The Ducks may be the best team out there.

Georgia does not look that good.  FSU losing.  I think this may be the first year that anyone who makes it into the four has a real chance.

[imref]

Alabama is going to beat Georgia and win the freaking playoffs