NOTLD, you may have been right..

[sportsfan882]

3 IP 10 H 8 R 8 ER 2 BB 0 K

I think that's the worst start by a National pitcher all year.

[MrMadison]

3 IP 10 H 8 R 8 ER 2 BB 0 K

I think that's the worst start by a National pitcher all year.

you forgot O'Connor's only start.

[sportsfan882]

you forgot O'Connor's only start.

This one was worse. At least O'Connor got rocked by a real team. Bergmann just gave up 10 HITS and 8 RUNS in 3 INNINGS to the weak ass Giants!  He also walked the pitcher with the bases loaded which led to 6 extra runs. The score could have been 2-0 with us out of the inning if he had retired Lincecum.

[MrMadison]

This one was worse. At least O'Connor got rocked by a real team. Bergmann just gave up 10 HITS and 8 RUNS in 3 INNINGS to the weak ass Giants!  He also walked the pitcher with the bases loaded which led to 6 extra runs. The score could have been 2-0 with us out of the inning if he had retired Lincecum.

well...when you put it that way......

[The Chief]

sigh

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[BBQ]

sigh

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[BBQ]

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[Air Zimmerman]

i think berg has some serious mental/confidence issues. he was a nightmare out there tonight. i wanna say his scoreless inning streak was a fluke but i truly believe he can dominate like that on a consistent basis. it's all mental with him and he serves up way too many beach balls lol.

[nats2playoffs]

... The score could have been 2-0 with us out of the inning if he had retired Lincecum.

So we would have still lost, 2-1 at best. 

Manny knows you'd prefer a blowout to a close loss. 

So, he went out to the mound and told Bergmann "Serve beach balls, for sportsfan."

[Air Zimmerman]

So we would have still lost, 2-1 at best. 

Manny knows you'd prefer a blowout to a close loss. 

So, he went out to the mound and told Bergmann "Serve beach balls, for sportsfan."

i really DISLIKED the way berg responded to mannys trip to the mound.

[sportsfan882]

i really DISLIKED the way berg responded to mannys trip to the mound.

Manny was pissed too when he came out to talk to Bergmann after walking the pitcher. I don't think I've ever seen him so fiery.  Too bad Bergmann just rolled over like a coward and proceeded to give up 4 more runs, all with 2 outs. Our inability to get the opposing pitcher out is extremely disturbing. It cost us 5 runs last night and 6 tonight. That's pretty much unheard of. I guess that's Nationals Baseball for you though.

[MrMadison]

Manny was pissed too when he came out to talk to Bergmann after walking the pitcher. I don't think I've ever seen him so fiery.   

that was definitely a rare mood change for Manny.  he *had* to be REALLY pissed off.

[heatchucker]

Bergmann seems to be the only guy on the Nationals that anyone gets mad at; Acta today, Jim in April. No one got mad at Chico. No one gets on Hill or Redding for blowing leads. Mackowiaks quality at bats have never been questioned. Milledge is a saint and never gets yelled at for not running stuff out or swinging at awful bad pitches. (Church got the business constantly). Never has the bullpen been talked to about blowing tight games. Bergmann gets roughed up and then yelled at. There are about 17 other players that need that kind of working over too

[Nat of the Living Dead]

I am so thankful I was on the road for the past six hours and didn't witness this. Ugh, horrible.

Well Bergmann, you earned it.



I can't wait to hear Tomterp's excuses for Bergmann this time.

[Nat of the Living Dead]

Bergmann seems to be the only guy on the Nationals that anyone gets mad at; Acta today, Jim in April. No one got mad at Chico. No one gets on Hill or Redding for blowing leads. Mackowiaks quality at bats have never been questioned. Milledge is a saint and never gets yelled at for not running stuff out or swinging at awful bad pitches. (Church got the business constantly). Never has the bullpen been talked to about blowing tight games. Bergmann gets roughed up and then yelled at. There are about 17 other players that need that kind of working over too

Acta and JimBo - I think they get a fair amount of anger around here.

Chico - Sophomore season, was never fully ready for an MLB stint in the first place. How can you really get mad at the guy?

Redding - Journeyman. Expected to blow it. What he has given us has been nothing short of a miracle. Again, how can you get mad at the guy?

Hill - Injured for four years. Viable excuse but the anger really should be directed towards the ones who put this wreck on the mound time and time again.

Entire Offense - No excuses. Anger abounds.


Jason Bergmann - Three years of constant up and down who shows he can pitch some gems, but then he completely chokes. What's his excuse?

[sportsfan882]

Manny face-to-face with Jason after he walked the pitcher:

[Got2BNats]

He's a Coward for giving up a 3 run hr? Should the lineup that can't get a hit night or score a run night after night be called cowards because they can't get hit?? No, they are called "slumping". How many balls have been hit to centerfield or right field & been misplayed..some back to back..Chico had bad outing after outing & barely a negative word was said. Excuses, you bet. Acta singling out Bergmann tonight?? realistically he is only responsible for one out of every 5 games... Bergman's fastball was flat tonight. Obviously he didn't have his stuff tonight, why leave him in? Acta saw what we saw..pull the plug before the game is so far gone that we have no chance of getting back in the game. With the lack of runs scored by this team get the pitcher out so we have some chance of staying in the game.
And, yes before I get slammed for this post..Walking the pitcher is terrible and yes, This as an awful outing but how that gets turned into cowardness is ridiculous. The entire team with rare exceptions is underperforming night after night. Redding gave up how many runs last night in how many innings?? Does he get called a coward? Bergmanns pitched a few good games against top pitchers with no run support. He has a bad night and all that gets erased. This team has a long list of players that are not performing & have not been performing &  suddenly Acta decides to get fired up & chew out his pitcher..how about getting on a few other's cases while he's at it. There is no I in Team.   

[Ali the Baseball Cat]

Word.

He's a Coward for giving up a 3 run hr? Should the lineup that can't get a hit night or score a run night after night be called cowards because they can't get hit?? No, they are called "slumping". How many balls have been hit to centerfield or right field & been misplayed..some back to back..Chico had bad outing after outing & barely a negative word was said. Excuses, you bet. Acta singling out Bergmann tonight?? realistically he is only responsible for one out of every 5 games... Bergman's fastball was flat tonight. Obviously he didn't have his stuff tonight, why leave him in? Acta saw what we saw..pull the plug before the game is so far gone that we have no chance of getting back in the game. With the lack of runs scored by this team get the pitcher out so we have some chance of staying in the game.
And, yes before I get slammed for this post..Walking the pitcher is terrible and yes, This as an awful outing but how that gets turned into cowardness is ridiculous. The entire team with rare exceptions is underperforming night after night. Redding gave up how many runs last night in how many innings?? Does he get called a coward? Bergmanns pitched a few good games against top pitchers with no run support. He has a bad night and all that gets erased. This team has a long list of players that are not performing & have not been performing &  suddenly Acta decides to get fired up & chew out his pitcher..how about getting on a few other's cases while he's at it. There is no I in Team.  

[Nat of the Living Dead]

Manny face-to-face with Jason after he walked the pitcher:

That would make a great UFC poster.

[Nat of the Living Dead]

He's a Coward for giving up a 3 run hr? Should the lineup that can't get a hit night or score a run night after night be called cowards because they can't get hit?? No, they are called "slumping". How many balls have been hit to centerfield or right field & been misplayed..some back to back..Chico had bad outing after outing & barely a negative word was said. Excuses, you bet. Acta singling out Bergmann tonight?? realistically he is only responsible for one out of every 5 games... Bergman's fastball was flat tonight. Obviously he didn't have his stuff tonight, why leave him in? Acta saw what we saw..pull the plug before the game is so far gone that we have no chance of getting back in the game. With the lack of runs scored by this team get the pitcher out so we have some chance of staying in the game.
And, yes before I get slammed for this post..Walking the pitcher is terrible and yes, This as an awful outing but how that gets turned into cowardness is ridiculous. The entire team with rare exceptions is underperforming night after night. Redding gave up how many runs last night in how many innings?? Does he get called a coward? Bergmanns pitched a few good games against top pitchers with no run support. He has a bad night and all that gets erased. This team has a long list of players that are not performing & have not been performing &  suddenly Acta decides to get fired up & chew out his pitcher..how about getting on a few other's cases while he's at it. There is no I in Team.   

I'm confused. Tell me, how does the performances of Chico and Redding affect the performances of Jason Bergmann? And when did the offense suddenly whisper in Bergmann's ear telling him to give up four solo homeruns last game and seven runs in the third inning this game? Were they invisible and we just didn't see it?

Last I checked, that is all on Jason Bergmann so pointing the finger at all these other players over something Jason Bergmann did...I don't see the point.

[Ali the Baseball Cat]

My read on this (forgive me if I misread your post, SenorGot2BNats), is that Manny will accommodate incredible mediocrity here, but not allow for someone slipping on a banana peel there.  Bend ya knees is allowed to wander aimlessly about the outfield and flail at balls night after night all the while receiving pats on the back, while Bergmann having an atrocious outing suddenly merits the first Manny-mound tirade of the season. 

I'm confused. Tell me, how does the performances of Chico and Redding affect the performances of Jason Bergmann? And when did the offense suddenly whisper in Bergmann's ear telling him to give up four solo homeruns last game and seven runs in the third inning this game? Were they invisible and we just didn't see it?

Last I checked, that is all on Jason Bergmann so pointing the finger at all these other players over something Jason Bergmann did...I don't see the point.

[Got2BNats]

My read on this (forgive me if I misread your post, SenorGot2BNats), is that Manny will accommodate incredible mediocrity here, but not allow for someone slipping on a banana peel there.  Bend ya knees is allowed to wander aimlessly about the outfield and flail at balls night after night all the while receiving pats on the back, while Bergmann having an atrocious outing suddenly merits the first Manny-mound tirade of the season. 

exactly. not looking to excuse Jason's outing at all... just the singling out of him when there is a entire team that deserves the same treatment is bothersome.   

[ronnynat]

exactly. not looking to excuse Jason's outing at all... just the singling out of him when there is a entire team that deserves the same treatment is bothersome.   

Maybe (hopefully) he was just the first guy that got that kind of treatment and there will be more to come.

[KnorrForYourMoney]

My read on this (forgive me if I misread your post, SenorGot2BNats), is that Manny will accommodate incredible mediocrity here, but not allow for someone slipping on a banana peel there.  Bend ya knees is allowed to wander aimlessly about the outfield and flail at balls night after night all the while receiving pats on the back, while Bergmann having an atrocious outing suddenly merits the first Manny-mound tirade of the season. 

There's a big difference between Milledge and Bergmann.  Milledge is younger and could still become a mainstay in our outfield, whereas Bergmann is really on his last legs.  He's very close to never starting for the Nationals ever again.

[Obed_Marsh]

Well Bergmann, you earned it.

Yeah but even if he was an ace it would still be humorous. This never gets old.

That said, Patterson left too soon before he could get his bowling ball.