Author Topic: Nationals vs Phillies, Game 2 (Read 50713 times)

Hill actually has been quite consistent.
#s before All Star Break: 50 IP 37 H 18 R 15 ER 2 HR 16 BB 33 SO (3-3, 2.70 ERA)
#s after All Star Break: 47.1 IP 49 H 24 R 22 ER 7 HR 9 BB 32 SO (1-1, 4.18 ERA<---- lower than Jason's ERA on the season)

Jason is very solid, in fact he hasn't lost a game in his last 10 starts which is Excellent, but Hill is still a little better overall.

I was looking at Hill from before injury and after, not before and after all stars. I know that Hill's ERA is definitely better! But Berg has a better era against NL East batters. They are both extremely talented pitchers. No doubt about that. But I'm not ready to use the ace term. We need to let them both continue developing into the pitchers we know they can be.

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #183:** September 21, 2007, 08:55:26 PM »

Quote from: kimnat on September 21, 2007, 08:54:24 PM

I was looking at Hill from before injury and after, not before and after all stars. I know that Hill's ERA is definitely better! But Berg has a better era against NL East batters. They are both extremely talented pitchers. No doubt about that. But I'm not ready to use the ace term. We need to let them both continue developing into the pitchers we know they can be.

Post All Star Break and Post Injury is the same thing in this case

kimnat · « **Reply #184:** September 21, 2007, 08:56:01 PM »

Quote from: sportsfan882 on September 21, 2007, 08:55:26 PM

Post All Star Break and Post Injury is the same thing in this case

I thought it (injury) was later. Oh well.

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #185:** September 21, 2007, 08:56:06 PM »

good D'Angelo!

PC · « **Reply #186:** September 21, 2007, 08:56:42 PM »

We should have had Eaton in the dugout by the third inning.

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #187:** September 21, 2007, 08:56:50 PM »

Quote from: kimnat on September 21, 2007, 08:56:01 PM

I thought it was later.

His last start before the injury was May 11th. His next start wasn't until August 14th.

PC · « **Reply #188:** September 21, 2007, 08:57:12 PM »

Which 5+ ERA reliever are the Phillies going to use?

spidernat · « **Reply #189:** September 21, 2007, 08:57:24 PM »

Quote from: kimnat on September 21, 2007, 08:54:24 PM

I was looking at Hill from before injury and after, not before and after all stars. I know that Hill's ERA is definitely better! But Berg has a better era against NL East batters.

Hill has 14 fewer innings pitched in 4 fewer starts (average that out and see what the difference is). He also has an almost 3/1 K/BB ratio. Hills has a lower WHIP. Hill has 11 QS to Bergmann's 10 in 4 fewer starts. There really is no competition except that maybe Hill isn't as nice as Bergmann.

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #190:** September 21, 2007, 08:57:24 PM »

Quote from: PC on September 21, 2007, 08:56:42 PM

We should have had Eaton in the dugout by the third inning.

yep, now we get to see a heavy dose of the Phillies' bullpen.

PC · « **Reply #191:** September 21, 2007, 08:58:38 PM »

Quote from: spidernat on September 21, 2007, 08:57:24 PM

Hill has 14 fewer innings pitched in 4 fewer starts (average that out and see what the difference is). He also has an almost 3/1 K/BB ratio. Hills has a lower WHIP. Hill has 11 QS to Bergmann's 10 in 4 fewer starts. There really is no competition except that maybe Hill isn't as nice as Bergmann.

I'm sure Shawn is very nice...on days he's not pitching.

kimnat · « **Reply #192:** September 21, 2007, 08:59:28 PM »

hey Sportsfan, can you show me Berg's stats like you did Hill's. I'm just curious. I don't know how you did it. I'm not being confrontational. I'm honestly just curious.

metssuck · « **Reply #193:** September 21, 2007, 08:59:35 PM »

MAn what is up with manny jaw. Son got a boston jaw. Burly lookin. Like he chops his own wood(wood as in fireplace wood)

spidernat · « **Reply #194:** September 21, 2007, 08:59:58 PM »

We still have a chance to pull this one out. Let's not give up just yet.

PC · « **Reply #195:** September 21, 2007, 09:00:18 PM »

Oooh Geary's ERA is only 4.29. That makes him an All-Star among the mutts on the Phillies staff.

kimnat · « **Reply #196:** September 21, 2007, 09:00:24 PM »

Quote from: spidernat on September 21, 2007, 08:57:24 PM

Hill has 14 fewer innings pitched in 4 fewer starts (average that out and see what the difference is). He also has an almost 3/1 K/BB ratio. Hills has a lower WHIP. Hill has 11 QS to Bergmann's 10 in 4 fewer starts. There really is no competition except that maybe Hill isn't as nice as Bergmann.

LOL!!! You booger.

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #197:** September 21, 2007, 09:00:36 PM »

*&@$ing Felipe.. takes meat fastball and chases garbage in dirt

PC · « **Reply #198:** September 21, 2007, 09:00:42 PM »

Thanks, Felipe.

kimnat · « **Reply #199:** September 21, 2007, 09:01:25 PM »

Quote from: sportsfan882 on September 21, 2007, 08:56:50 PM

His last start before the injury was May 11th. His next start wasn't until August 14th.

ok, so I wasn't imagining things. But that makes your point very accurately. I guess I thought he didn't go out until later. Don't know why I had that in my head.