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Re: Luis Garcia Aspirations / Trepidations Thread
« Reply #200 on: September 13, 2023, 08:51:03 am »
If you really feel there's a compelling reason to chop the legs out from under Garcia, either for more discipline or because a 5 game slice is enough, then play Alu at second every day and go with Thomas, Young, and Blankenhorn as your outfield.

Let's just stop with the Baker in 2023 talk. It's not going to happen because he does not need to be added to the MLB 40 man roster this offseason. IT's sheer idiocy to add him to the roster for the last 2+ weeks of a going nowhere season. Baker's going to get an invite to major league camp next spring, and we can hope / expect he gets a legit shot at 2nd in competition with Garcia and Alu (if Alu isn't slotted in for 3rd base) barring a significant off-season signing.

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Re: Luis Garcia Aspirations / Trepidations Thread
« Reply #201 on: September 13, 2023, 09:04:27 am »
I'm just not seeing any reason to keep giving Garcia chances when he's shown that he can no longer hit. He hit poorly during his recent stint in AAA and so far is doing nothing at the major league level.

For the rest of the year I'd go with Alu as the everyday 2B and see if he can handle it.

For next year I agree that Baker should get a shot. All he has done since being drafted his hit and move up through the minor league ranks.


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Re: Luis Garcia Aspirations / Trepidations Thread
« Reply #202 on: September 13, 2023, 09:19:23 am »
Garcia at least may have some upside. Alu has an OPS of .534. He is not a major league player. If he can only produce at that level playing regularly he would probably be even worse as a bench guy. 

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Re: Luis Garcia Aspirations / Trepidations Thread
« Reply #203 on: April 08, 2024, 10:50:32 am »
Via talknats:
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Don't look now, but LUIS GARCIA JR. leads all batters in MLB in squaring up baseballs by percentage this season and he leads by a large margin. He has "barreled" 24% of all baseballs he has put into play

.902 OPS so far.

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Re: Luis Garcia Aspirations / Trepidations Thread
« Reply #204 on: April 08, 2024, 11:20:48 am »
Via talknats:
.902 OPS so far.
what does it say that he's leading in barrels but has yet to homer?

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Re: Luis Garcia Aspirations / Trepidations Thread
« Reply #205 on: April 08, 2024, 11:22:23 am »
what does it say that he's leading in barrels but has yet to homer?

BABIP...it's the universal excuse, right? 

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« Reply #206 on: April 08, 2024, 11:49:33 am »
BABIP...it's the universal excuse, right?
Launch angle failure!

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« Reply #207 on: April 08, 2024, 04:07:17 pm »
Launch angle failure!

pretty sure a barrel is a ball hit at a certain exit velocity or higher AND within a certain range of launch angles

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Re: Luis Garcia Aspirations / Trepidations Thread
« Reply #208 on: April 08, 2024, 04:55:19 pm »
pretty sure a barrel is a ball hit at a certain exit velocity or higher AND within a certain range of launch angles
begs the question, how can he be "barreling" so much and not putting balls out?

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Re: Luis Garcia Aspirations / Trepidations Thread
« Reply #209 on: April 08, 2024, 05:13:52 pm »
from mlb.com

The Barrel classification is assigned to batted-ball events whose comparable hit types (in terms of exit velocity and launch angle) have led to a minimum .500 batting average and 1.500 slugging percentage since Statcast was implemented Major League wide in 2015.

But similar to how Quality Starts have generally yielded a mean ERA much lower than the baseline of 4.50, the average Barrel has produced a batting mark and a slugging percentage significantly higher than .500 and 1.500, respectively. During the 2016 regular season, balls assigned the Barreled classification had a batting average of .822 and a 2.386 slugging percentage.

To be Barreled, a batted ball requires an exit velocity of at least 98 mph. At that speed, balls struck with a launch angle between 26-30 degrees always garner Barreled classification. For every mph over 98, the range of launch angles expands.

For example: A ball traveling 99 mph always earns 'Barreled' status when struck between 25-31 degrees. Add one more mph -- to reach 100 -- and the range grows another three degrees, to 24-33.

Every additional mph over 100 increases the range another two to three degrees until an exit velocity of 116 mph is reached. At that threshold, the Barreled designation is assigned to any ball with a launch angle between eight and 50 degrees.

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Re: Luis Garcia Aspirations / Trepidations Thread
« Reply #210 on: April 08, 2024, 05:17:25 pm »
so in response to that mlb.com description, the average barrel in 2016 only had a 2.368 SLG, meaning the average hit on a barrel was about a double.  Garcia is currently leading the league in doubles.  makes sense

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« Reply #211 on: April 08, 2024, 05:39:03 pm »
Should call it an arced barrel. 

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Re: Luis Garcia Aspirations / Trepidations Thread
« Reply #212 on: April 08, 2024, 05:43:17 pm »
so in response to that mlb.com description, the average barrel in 2016 only had a 2.368 SLG, meaning the average hit on a barrel was about a double.  Garcia is currently leading the league in doubles.  makes sense
I understand this now a lot better than I did. Thank you.

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Re: Luis Garcia Aspirations / Trepidations Thread
« Reply #213 on: April 08, 2024, 06:41:01 pm »
begs the question, how can he be "barreling" so much and not putting balls out?
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Re: Luis Garcia Aspirations / Trepidations Thread
« Reply #214 on: April 13, 2024, 07:05:47 pm »
2 for 4 with a double and an RBI, plus a nice looking catch in the 9th for the 2d out. Sometimes you see what folks saw in him.

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Re: Luis Garcia Aspirations / Trepidations Thread
« Reply #215 on: April 13, 2024, 07:29:37 pm »
Luis "two bags" Garcia.

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Re: Luis Garcia Aspirations / Trepidations Thread
« Reply #216 on: April 16, 2024, 09:10:44 am »
Looking at his stats and he has a positive WAR past two seasons. I would have lost serious money if I had to place a bet on that.

I had such high hopes for him, I think I have just been mad he's been fine versus good.

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Re: Luis Garcia Aspirations / Trepidations Thread
« Reply #217 on: April 16, 2024, 09:14:57 am »
.879 OPS and making spectacular plays in the field. He's not even 24 yet.

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Re: Luis Garcia Aspirations / Trepidations Thread
« Reply #218 on: April 16, 2024, 09:20:25 am »
IF he has a break out, then that's found money.

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Re: Luis Garcia Aspirations / Trepidations Thread
« Reply #219 on: April 16, 2024, 09:22:43 am »
IF he has a break out, then that's found money.
A few years ago there were really high expectations for him, so more like him finally living up to his potential.

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Re: Luis Garcia Aspirations / Trepidations Thread
« Reply #220 on: April 16, 2024, 09:24:38 am »
A few years ago there were really high expectations for him, so more like him finally living up to his potential.
a difference between him and Robles this year is that, with a good season, there's still a path to him being on the team next year and after.

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« Reply #221 on: April 16, 2024, 09:46:43 am »
a difference between him and Robles this year is that, with a good season, there's still a path to him being on the team next year and after.

I still wish Davey would give Robles a chance to play (when he's actually healthy of course) just on the off chance the Nats can flip him for a lottery ticket, but I think Davey is just done with Robles at this point.

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« Reply #222 on: April 16, 2024, 10:03:01 am »
I still wish Davey would give Robles a chance to play (when he's actually healthy of course) just on the off chance the Nats can flip him for a lottery ticket, but I think Davey is just done with Robles at this point.
I think when Robles plays and does well, he mysteriously gets hurt. I think it's going to be VERY HARD to trade Robles for anything of value, even a lottery ticket, when his track record since 2021 has been questionable at best, and when he does produce, it's for limited periods of time before he is injured.

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Re: Luis Garcia Aspirations / Trepidations Thread
« Reply #223 on: April 16, 2024, 11:16:05 am »
I still wish Davey would give Robles a chance to play (when he's actually healthy of course) just on the off chance the Nats can flip him for a lottery ticket, but I think Davey is just done with Robles at this point.
Is he going to be back in time to flip?

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Re: Luis Garcia Aspirations / Trepidations Thread
« Reply #224 on: April 16, 2024, 11:19:50 am »
Garcia was very good last September after coming back from the minors. Is it possible the demotion to the minors was a wakeup call?