Author Topic: Nats looking @ Elijah Dukes... (Read 22733 times)

ronnynat · « **Reply #175 on:** June 14, 2007, 07:11:02 am »

From Tampa Tribune:

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Veteran RHP Jay Witasick, who was released by Oakland last week, will sign with the Rays today and is expected to be in uniform for tonight's game against the Padres at Tropicana Field... Several teams have inquired about trading for OF Elijah Dukes, with the Washington Nationals reportedly among them, but no deal is imminent.

The fact that they went out and got Witasick would tell me that they are going to try and hold on to Dukes. They're all about the young players and I couldn't see us making a deal w/ any of our prospects, even the B- or C rated ones.

Dave B · « **Reply #176 on:** June 14, 2007, 08:57:13 am »

Quote from: ronnynat on June 14, 2007, 07:11:02 am

From Tampa Tribune:

The fact that they went out and got Witasick would tell me that they are going to try and hold on to Dukes. They're all about the young players and I couldn't see us making a deal w/ any of our prospects, even the B- or C rated ones.

Or maybe it means we get Dukes plus some garbage throw in reliever that we can hopefully turn around. I actually look forward to that. Give us a guy like Colome who throws hard and let St.Claire fix him

NatsAddict · « **Reply #177 on:** June 14, 2007, 09:51:50 am »

Quote from: Dave B on June 14, 2007, 08:57:13 am

Or maybe it means we get Dukes plus some garbage throw in reliever that we can hopefully turn around. I actually look forward to that. Give us a guy like Colome who throws hard and let St.Claire fix him

Josh Wilson?

The D-Rays are tough to trade with as they always asks for something absurd in return. Dealing with them is like dealing with a spoiled 12-year old. They'd consider Dukes for and Church and Zimmerman a fair trade.

ronnynat · « **Reply #178 on:** June 14, 2007, 09:57:24 am »

Quote from: Dave B on June 14, 2007, 08:57:13 am

Or maybe it means we get Dukes plus some garbage throw in reliever that we can hopefully turn around. I actually look forward to that. Give us a guy like Colome who throws hard and let St.Claire fix him

Man, I hope you're right, but all they really want right now is a reliever. I guess I'd give up Saul for him, but his cutter (when it's working) is one of the best. If we gave them Rauch, I'd need Dukes to be much better when he got here. Rauch is the man!

mikehughes · « **Reply #179 on:** June 14, 2007, 10:37:35 am »

Quote from: ronnynat on June 14, 2007, 09:57:24 am

Man, I hope you're right, but all they really want right now is a reliever. I guess I'd give up Saul for him, but his cutter (when it's working) is one of the best. If we gave them Rauch, I'd need Dukes to be much better when he got here. Rauch is the man!

Rauch Used to be the man.

ronnynat · « **Reply #180 on:** June 14, 2007, 10:40:46 am »

Quote from: mikehughes on June 14, 2007, 10:37:35 am

Rauch Used to be the man.

I think he'll be back in form in no time. He just doesn't seem like he'd stay in a rut for too long. Maybe it's just me, but I'd like to keep him around for a while.

2k6nats · « **Reply #181 on:** June 14, 2007, 11:23:19 am »

Quote from: ronnynat on June 14, 2007, 10:40:46 am

I think he'll be back in form in no time. He just doesn't seem like he'd stay in a rut for too long. Maybe it's just me, but I'd like to keep him around for a while.

I'm not going to say I don't want him, but he's not the immortal Rauch to me anymore. Not that a few stellar outings wouldn't change that...

The only way he could become the man again TODAY is if we got Dukes for him

JMW IV · « **Reply #182 on:** June 14, 2007, 11:39:33 am »

Just a thought with regards to cf: justin maxwell is 23 and will likely find his way to dc this season

Dave B · « **Reply #183 on:** June 14, 2007, 11:50:15 am »

Quote from: JMadisonIV on June 14, 2007, 11:39:33 am

Just a thought with regards to cf: justin maxwell is 23 and will likely find his way to dc this season

Maxwell is 23 and put up some good numbers in Low A this year. Dukes put up Maxwell like numbers in AA as a 20/21 year old in 2005.

edit Maxwell's numbers were a little better, but nonetheless, at 23 he is picking on little kids in Low A

shoeshineboy · « **Reply #184 on:** June 14, 2007, 11:51:38 am »

Quote from: JMadisonIV on June 14, 2007, 11:39:33 am

Just a thought with regards to cf: justin maxwell is 23 and will likely find his way to dc this season

I think the team is watching Maxwell very closely, and I have very high hopes that he will be the CF of the future (hopefully sooner than later.) But I am not sure if we will see him in DC this year. I would love it if he is was a September call-up, but he is still only in Potomac. If he performs there anyway like he did in Hagerstown and gets to Harrisburg quickly, that would be awesome. I would love to see him move through the system like Zimmerman did post draft. But Zimmerman only played 4 games in A ball before playing 63 games in AA ball in Harrisburg where he went .326/.371/.528 in 233 ABs. That got him the September callup. Maxwell would have to be promoted pretty quickly from Potomac.

ronnynat · « **Reply #185 on:** June 14, 2007, 11:52:08 am »

Quote from: 2k6nats on June 14, 2007, 11:23:19 am

The only way he could become the man again TODAY is if we got Dukes for him

I have to accept that one cuz it's too funny, but if Dukes sucks (when and if he gets here) and Rauch goes and becomes a Cy Young award winning starter for the Devil Rays, I blame you.

Evolution33 · « **Reply #186 on:** June 14, 2007, 12:11:40 pm »

Quote from: shoeshineboy on June 14, 2007, 11:51:38 am

I think the team is watching Maxwell very closely, and I have very high hopes that he will be the CF of the future (hopefully sooner than later.) But I am not sure if we will see him in DC this year. I would love it if he is was a September call-up, but he is still only in Potomac. If he performs there anyway like he did in Hagerstown and gets to Harrisburg quickly, that would be awesome. I would love to see him move through the system like Zimmerman did post draft. But Zimmerman only played 4 games in A ball before playing 63 games in AA ball in Harrisburg where he went .326/.371/.528 in 233 ABs. That got him the September callup. Maxwell would have to be promoted pretty quickly from Potomac.

He is off to a hot start, but I think they would like to see him for at least a month at Potomac before any more promotions.

shoeshineboy · « **Reply #187 on:** June 14, 2007, 12:31:02 pm »

Quote from: Evolution33 on June 14, 2007, 12:11:40 pm

He is off to a hot start, but I think they would like to see him for at least a month at Potomac before any more promotions.

I would certainly hope so. They aren't rushing these guys. Maxwell is older, so hopefully he progresses quickly. But they need to see that happen, and there is no real rush.

Kenz aFan · « **Reply #188 on:** June 15, 2007, 11:33:22 am »

Quote from: shoeshineboy on June 14, 2007, 11:51:38 am

Maxwell would have to be promoted pretty quickly from Potomac.

Especially if he continues with his hot pace since joining the P'Nats. The numbers will come down, but three multi-hit games in 3 games played is still a pretty impressive start.

shoeshineboy · « **Reply #189 on:** June 15, 2007, 11:45:55 am »

Quote from: Kenz aFan on June 15, 2007, 11:33:22 am

Especially if he continues with his hot pace since joining the P'Nats. The numbers will come down, but three multi-hit games in 3 games played is still a pretty impressive start.

Yes it is. I'm trying not to get overly optimistic, but as discussed in the "Mark my words thread" it's hard not to have high hopes for what a kid like Maxwell could mean to this club as an everday CF.

Kenz aFan · « **Reply #190 on:** June 15, 2007, 11:58:48 am »

There's no question that Maxwell has the potential and the tools to make it. Oddly enough, he reminds me a lot of another up and coming minor league center fielder back in the Expos days. That center fielder was Andre Dawson, and what would the Nats do with an Andre Dawson type player in their lineup everyday. I believe Maxwell may even outdo Dawson, because I believe Dawson was brought up too fast. The Expos were too impressed with his numbers. I think had he played another half season in AAA, Dawson would have been a monster in the bigs.

Dave B · « **Reply #191 on:** June 15, 2007, 01:55:52 pm »

Quote from: Kenz aFan on June 15, 2007, 11:58:48 am

There's no question that Maxwell has the potential and the tools to make it. Oddly enough, he reminds me a lot of another up and coming minor league center fielder back in the Expos days. That center fielder was Andre Dawson, and what would the Nats do with an Andre Dawson type player in their lineup everyday. I believe Maxwell may even outdo Dawson...

I'd have to check my records, but I'm pretty sure that is the most glowing endorsement you have ever given of any of the Nats players/prospects. You feeling alright?

NatMan · « **Reply #192 on:** June 15, 2007, 02:54:55 pm »

it would be hard for me to except cheering for Duke......I usually boo everyime the name Duke is referneced.

kimnat · « **Reply #193 on:** June 15, 2007, 02:58:31 pm »

Yeah, so does my husband, and Tomterp. It's part of the terp dna.

heatchucker · « **Reply #194 on:** June 15, 2007, 03:22:24 pm »

would it be possible to petition the nats to NOT get this guy?!

spidernat · « **Reply #195 on:** June 15, 2007, 04:59:57 pm »

Quote from: heatchucker on June 15, 2007, 03:22:24 pm

would it be possible to petition the nats to NOT get this guy?!

Yeah just put together a lits of players you want and don't want and email it, with your resume, to the front office.

Kenz aFan · « **Reply #196 on:** June 16, 2007, 04:03:46 am »

Quote from: Dave B on June 15, 2007, 01:55:52 pm

I'd have to check my records, but I'm pretty sure that is the most glowing endorsement you have ever given of any of the Nats players/prospects. You feeling alright?

I may be been still half asleep, after all I posted the message before noon.

2k6nats · « **Reply #197 on:** June 16, 2007, 03:05:04 pm »

Dukes is leading in the Hit Tracker "Golden Sledgehammer" rankings. This measures a HR's average distance.

http://www.hittrackeronline.com/golden_sledgehammer.php

KnorrForYourMoney · « **Reply #198 on:** June 16, 2007, 04:08:42 pm »

That's a really telling stat for a guy who could play at RFK. That means most, if not all, of those shots would still be homers even at this cavernous stadium.

Kenz aFan · « **Reply #199 on:** June 16, 2007, 07:46:00 pm »

Quote from: nospinzone1 on June 12, 2007, 03:41:30 pm

blasphemous. even the jewish prince takes ofense to taking the name of Jesus in vain.

nospin, the picture and the caption posted by NOTLD simply means that Jesus was tough enough, ready and able to take on all comers. There is nothing blasphemous about it.

To find out, I send a screen capture of it a priest friend I've know for decades, and his response was, and I quote, "Right on, Jesus. Ken, do you remember when you were young and I told you that Jesus was tough, because of what he had to endure for us. Well, now the word is getting out and that just shows it."

He said he was going keep the image I sent, because it was a another way of saying God is powerful and fears nothing.