Author Topic: 2018-2019 Offseason Moves (Read 118510 times)

Natsinpwc · « **Reply #1550 on:** March 03, 2019, 10:48:40 am »

Quote from: imref on March 03, 2019, 10:44:14 am

I'd imagine next year's 2B plan will depend on Garcia's development.

The way I figure one of Kieboom or Garcia will be a good MLB player.

DCFan · « **Reply #1551 on:** March 03, 2019, 11:08:22 am »

Quote from: Natsinpwc on March 03, 2019, 10:48:40 am

The way I figure one of Kieboom or Garcia will be a good MLB player.

Are you guaranteeing that? (since it's something that you think that applies in baseball)

DCFan · « **Reply #1552 on:** March 03, 2019, 11:12:59 am »

Quote from: Slateman on March 03, 2019, 09:59:18 am

Because both of those guys are premiere in the regular season. Kimbrel isnt.

It's a new day and you're still being as ignorant as you were yesterday. Kimbrel finished 2nd in the AL in saves last year and 3rd the year before so if that doesn't merit premiere status I don't know what does. I'd love to chat further with you but I'm worried that your ignorance is contagious. Ciao.

Natsinpwc · « **Reply #1553 on:** March 03, 2019, 11:16:11 am »

Quote from: DCFan on March 03, 2019, 11:08:22 am

Are you guaranteeing that? (since it's something that you think that applies in baseball)

I only guarantee death and taxes.

DCFan · « **Reply #1554 on:** March 03, 2019, 11:16:53 am »

Quote from: Natsinpwc on March 03, 2019, 11:16:11 am

I only guarantee death and taxes.

So enough with the stupid questions then.

Natsinpwc · « **Reply #1555 on:** March 03, 2019, 11:17:23 am »

Quote from: DCFan on March 03, 2019, 11:12:59 am

It's a new day and you're still being as ignorant as you were yesterday. Kimbrel finished 2nd in the AL in saves last year and 3rd the year before so if that doesn't merit premiere status I don't know what does. I'd love to chat further with you but I'm worried that your ignorance is contagious. Ciao.

Maybe the fact that he pitched for the best team helped his save totals? Just a thought. I hate it when you make me agree with Slate.

Natsinpwc · « **Reply #1556 on:** March 03, 2019, 11:18:59 am »

Quote from: DCFan on March 03, 2019, 11:16:53 am

So enough with the stupid questions then.

What question?

DCFan · « **Reply #1557 on:** March 03, 2019, 11:24:01 am »

Quote from: Natsinpwc on March 03, 2019, 11:17:23 am

Maybe the fact that he pitched for the best team helped his save totals? Just a thought. I hate it when you make me agree with Slate.

Maybe he's the reason they're the best team. (Damn I'm talking with idiots this morning)

Natsinpwc · « **Reply #1558 on:** March 03, 2019, 12:04:41 pm »

Quote from: DCFan on March 03, 2019, 11:24:01 am

Maybe he's the reason they're the best team. (Damn I'm talking with idiots this morning)

Yea. The best offensive team in baseball. And he was the reason.

Slateman · « **Reply #1559 on:** March 03, 2019, 01:01:15 pm »

Quote from: Natsinpwc on March 03, 2019, 10:47:32 am

Don’t be so sure. Corbin has one good year and look what he got. If Strasburg has a good year teams will figure he has learned how to pitch.

No one is going to pay him as much for 20-25 starts a season

mach1ne · « **Reply #1560 on:** March 03, 2019, 02:21:38 pm »

Quote from: Slateman on March 03, 2019, 01:01:15 pm

No one is going to pay him as much for 20-25 starts a season

Agreed. He is a Nat for the long-term with his injury history. He still hasn't shown his velocity is back either.

imref · « **Reply #1561 on:** March 03, 2019, 08:51:34 pm »

Kerzel confirms the Nats' interest in Kimbrel, but says that the ownership doesn't want to go over the luxury tax threshold again:

http://www.masnsports.com/nationals-pastime/2019/03/on-the-nationals-interest-in-signing-craig-kimbrel.html

Expos · « **Reply #1562 on:** March 03, 2019, 09:18:33 pm »

I don't understand the hate for signing a top 3 closer. Our pen was a complete mess last year and was arguably the biggest reason we were so inconsistent.

Closer- Craig Kimbrel
8th- (L) Sean Doolittle
7th- Trevor Rosenthal
(L) Mark Grace
Justin Miller
Kyle Barraclough
(L) Sammy Solis

AAA

Koda Glover
Wander Suero
Tanner Rainey

We'd finally have some pitching depth.

1- Max Scherzer
2- Patrick Corbin
3- Stephen Strasburg
4- Anibal Sanchez
5- Jeremy Hellickson

AAA

Joe Ross
Erik Fedde

bluestreak · « **Reply #1563 on:** March 03, 2019, 09:33:45 pm »

I think people think a 31 year old closer with declining velocity that walks a lot of batters is concerning for a long contract.

Slateman · « **Reply #1564 on:** March 03, 2019, 09:50:58 pm »

Quote from: bluestreak on March 03, 2019, 09:33:45 pm

I think people think a 31 year old closer with declining velocity that walks a lot of batters is concerning for a long contract.

Exactly. Imagine signing Soriano to a five year deal

Natsinpwc · « **Reply #1565 on:** March 03, 2019, 10:02:21 pm »

Quote from: imref on March 03, 2019, 08:51:34 pm

Kerzel confirms the Nats' interest in Kimbrel, but says that the ownership doesn't want to go over the luxury tax threshold again:

http://www.masnsports.com/nationals-pastime/2019/03/on-the-nationals-interest-in-signing-craig-kimbrel.html

So they are interested. But not interested.

imref · « **Reply #1566 on:** March 03, 2019, 10:29:07 pm »

Quote from: Natsinpwc on March 03, 2019, 10:02:21 pm

So they are interested. But not interested.

If he’d take four million a year we’d sign him.

UMDNats · « **Reply #1567 on:** March 03, 2019, 11:24:39 pm »

our bullpen could be really, really, really bad. there's 0 proven guys beyond Doolittle. rosenthal just missed a season. miller probably is a turd in 2019. solis sucks. Glover is awful. Grace is alright. Barrclough? who knows.

Expos · « **Reply #1568 on:** March 03, 2019, 11:33:20 pm »

Quote

Negotiations between the Nationals and free agent closer Craig Kimbrel are "further down the road" than previously reported, hears ESPN's Keith Law. Law clarifies that means the two sides are progressing toward a deal.

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/mlb-rumors-nationals-craig-kimbrel-progressing-toward-deal-marcus-stroman-trade-talks-quiet-for-blue-jays/

Expos · « **Reply #1569 on:** March 03, 2019, 11:38:23 pm »

Quote from: bluestreak on March 03, 2019, 09:33:45 pm

I think people think a 31 year old closer with declining velocity that walks a lot of batters is concerning for a long contract.

Meh. Give it a rest. He is still an elite pitcher.

.995 whip
13.9 K/9
42 saves

Doolittle is a great pitcher but he isn't near the closer that Kimbrel is. A 1/2 punch of Kimbrel / Doolittle would be lites out.

Expos · « **Reply #1570 on:** March 03, 2019, 11:42:15 pm »

I doubt 1.3 MPH decreased velocity means anything.

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In 2017, he averaged 98.7 mph on the heater and, in 2018, it has fallen to 97.4 mph

https://thegruelingtruth.net/baseball/craig-kimbrel-has-struggled-with-his-fastball-in-2018/

I'd take 97.4 mph any day of the week.

Trea Burner · « **Reply #1571 on:** March 04, 2019, 12:46:59 am »

I don’t trust Kimbrel not to fall off a cliff like other closers have in the past, but it’s not my money and they have some to spend now that Harper is gone.

It’s worth a gamble I guess...the nats bullpen has always sucked with no name guys who buckle under pressure.

Expos · « **Reply #1572 on:** March 04, 2019, 07:58:42 am »

Quote from: Trea Burner on March 04, 2019, 12:46:59 am

I don’t trust Kimbrel not to fall off a cliff like other closers have in the past, but it’s not my money and they have some to spend now that Harper is gone.

It’s worth a gamble I guess...the nats bullpen has always sucked with no name guys who buckle under pressure.

8 years. That's how long Kimbrel has been the best closer in the league. Even last year when his numbers dropped he was a top 3 closer.

He had a rough few post-season games. It happens. But he didn't blow any games and closed them out. That's all that counts.

hotshot · « **Reply #1573 on:** March 04, 2019, 08:24:42 am »

Quote from: DCFan on March 03, 2019, 11:12:59 am

It's a new day and you're still being as ignorant as you were yesterday. Kimbrel finished 2nd in the AL in saves last year and 3rd the year before so if that doesn't merit premiere status I don't know what does. I'd love to chat further with you but I'm worried that your ignorance is contagious. Ciao.

Ask Sox fans how they liked him. You don't want your supposedly elite reliever living on the edge like Kimbrel has the last several years. The idea is to put out fires, not start them. VERY reminiscent of a declining Papelbon in his last two years in MLB.

bluestreak · « **Reply #1574 on:** March 04, 2019, 08:36:31 am »

It’s pretty clear to me that DCFan knows very little about baseball other than what someone told him in the 80s. Hence why he responds to lots of thoughtful data with “but he’s got saves.” Being stuck in attitudes of 30 years ago seems to be his schitck.