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Offline aBaltoNat

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Re: 2018-2019 Offseason Moves
« Reply #1275 on: January 22, 2019, 11:34:57 pm »
I like how you think Elvir. I think I agree.

Re: 2018-2019 Offseason Moves
« Reply #1276 on: January 23, 2019, 05:12:16 pm »
LOOGYs are my single biggest axe to grind about roster construction.  You only have 25 roster spots.  There are not 30 lefthanded pitchers out there who are good enough to justify a roster spot for getting 1 or 2 outs 3 times a week and who are not good enough to justify a roster spot for other reasons.   There might not be 5.  Blevins and Perez are not among that 5, Perez's freakish season last year notwithstanding. 

If a guy is not good enough to be on a roster for another reason (for example, as a standard middle reliever) and can't reliably get lefthanders out, he doesn't deserve a spot merely because he is lefthanded.  That is where Solis is.

I agree with Elvir 100% here. There are plenty of righties out there who get LHB out more effectively than many LHP do. And on top of that in the case of Solis, he's been far better at getting RHB out the last 2 years than he has LHB. Splits in that regard were .224/.329 (L/R) last year and .218/.227 in 2017. He does walk RHB a bit more but also Ks them more often as well. So the argument that he should be on the roster because "he's specifically supposed to get LHB out" is just dumb. Go with your best 7/8 relievers and be done with it because chances are most if not all of them do better vs LHB than the situational lefty does. Case and point, 2018 Nats pen BAA vs LHB:

RHP
Madson - 20/76  .263  (.292 vs RHB)
Kelley - 9/40  .225      (.210 vs RHB)
Holland - 2/26  .077    (.163 vs RHB)
Kintzler - 16/66  .242  (.261 vs RHB)
J. Miller - 17/73  .233  (.208 vs RHB)
Herrera - 11/38  .289   (.317 vs RHB)
Gott - 6/22  .273        (.271 vs RHB)
McGowin - 2/14  .143   (.286 vs RHB)
Cordero - 6/31  .194   (.347 vs RHB)
Suero - 18/76  .237   (.243 vs RHB)
Glover - 2/21  .095     (.282 vs RHB)
Austen Williams - 1/13  .077 (.375 vs RHB)

LHP
Grace - 23/89  .258   (.229 vs RHB)
Collins - 10/45  .222  (.310 vs RHB)
Solis - 26/79  .329    (.224 vs RHB)
Doolittle - 1/30  .033 (.160 vs RHB)


Offline Mattionals

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Re: 2018-2019 Offseason Moves
« Reply #1277 on: January 23, 2019, 06:28:56 pm »
Imma steal yo' post here

RHP
Madson - 20/76  .263  (.292 vs RHB) Don't bring back
Kelley - 9/40  .225      (.210 vs RHB) Not bad, but not coming back
Holland - 2/26  .077    (.163 vs RHB) I understand being afraid of his season prior to the Nats, but something looked like it clicked, should bring him back
Kintzler - 16/66  .242  (.261 vs RHB) Not awful, but he is now the Cubs' turd
J. Miller - 17/73  .233  (.208 vs RHB) The homers really hurt him
Herrera - 11/38  .289   (.317 vs RHB) He is broken now
Gott - 6/22  .273        (.271 vs RHB) VaRK was right
McGowin - 2/14  .143   (.286 vs RHB) SSS
Cordero - 6/31  .194   (.347 vs RHB) Throws hard, but where is the ball going?
Suero - 18/76  .237   (.243 vs RHB) Keeper
Glover - 2/21  .095     (.282 vs RHB) Minor league stats don't translate
Austen Williams - 1/13  .077 (.375 vs RHB) SSS

LHP
Grace - 23/89  .258   (.229 vs RHB) Keeper
Collins - 10/45  .222  (.310 vs RHB) Scrap heap
Solis - 26/79  .329    (.224 vs RHB) Lost potential
Doolittle - 1/30  .033 (.160 vs RHB) Best closer since the Chief

Offline sixthree175

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Re: 2018-2019 Offseason Moves
« Reply #1278 on: January 24, 2019, 12:03:01 am »
It sucks in September when the games drag on due to multiple pitching changes per inning in order to get the left-on-left or right-on-right match-ups (especially when it's the Phillies).  Didn't work for Kapler last year.  He'll probably do it all again this year.

Looks like two more relievers are needed in 2019.  Due to competition in the NL East, it's not wise to wait until mid-season to trade for them both.   
To hedge the bet, it's best to sign one more now and look for another in July. 



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Re: 2018-2019 Offseason Moves
« Reply #1279 on: January 24, 2019, 12:09:48 pm »
This bum signed with anyone yet?

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Re: 2018-2019 Offseason Moves
« Reply #1280 on: January 24, 2019, 12:13:32 pm »
This bum signed with anyone yet?
Gio? No. Not yet.

Offline Senatorswin

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Re: 2018-2019 Offseason Moves
« Reply #1281 on: January 24, 2019, 12:29:24 pm »
Word is whatever Rendon signs for it will be a little less than what Machado signs for. So once Machado signs his deal it would make sense for the Nats to approach Rendon about a fair deal under what Machado signs for. Both would know what the market is. The one holdup could be since Machado left Boras and Rendon is represented by Boras, Boras might try to get more for Rendon than Machado to one up Machado.

Offline hotshot

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Re: 2018-2019 Offseason Moves
« Reply #1282 on: January 24, 2019, 01:56:36 pm »
Don't think many GMs would view Rendon's value as only "a little less" than Manny's. Think they'd see a significantly bigger gap between these players than you apparently do. Wild card is how much Machado is devalued for his questionable attitude.

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Re: 2018-2019 Offseason Moves
« Reply #1283 on: January 24, 2019, 02:08:33 pm »
Don't think many GMs would view Rendon's value as only "a little less" than Manny's. Think they'd see a significantly bigger gap between these players than you apparently do. Wild card is how much Machado is devalued for his questionable attitude.

The real wild card is whether Machado can hack it at SS.  If you think he can play SS, he has a huge boost over Rendon.  If not, the gap is a lot smaller but Rendon is still 3 years older.

Offline CoryTheFormerExposFan

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Re: 2018-2019 Offseason Moves
« Reply #1284 on: January 24, 2019, 02:09:24 pm »
Rendon will also be 29 next year as a free agent (if not extended prior).  I don't think teams give him more than 6...7 years max. 

Online nfotiu

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Re: 2018-2019 Offseason Moves
« Reply #1285 on: January 24, 2019, 02:54:49 pm »
This soft free agency market the last couple years should be scaring likes Rendon into signing something now.  Boras's approach is getting a little out-dated and is doing his clients a disservice by making them hold out until free agency.   Kershaw type contracts seem like the way to go for the player and the team.  Pay a little more for some team controlled years, players give up a couple years of free agency, give the player a player option at the end for a little more security and makes for easier negotiations for extensions if the player wants to stay....Everyone's happy and rich enough.

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Re: 2018-2019 Offseason Moves
« Reply #1286 on: January 24, 2019, 05:35:27 pm »
The real wild card is whether Machado can hack it at SS.  If you think he can play SS, he has a huge boost over Rendon.  If not, the gap is a lot smaller but Rendon is still 3 years older.

Also, when you look at Machado's power numbers, specifically HRs, how much do you have to factor in his playing 81 games a year in Camden Yards?

Offline Senatorswin

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Re: 2018-2019 Offseason Moves
« Reply #1287 on: January 24, 2019, 06:38:41 pm »
Don't think many GMs would view Rendon's value as only "a little less" than Manny's. Think they'd see a significantly bigger gap between these players than you apparently do. Wild card is how much Machado is devalued for his questionable attitude.

This today from MLB.com:

"Whatever Manny Machado gets would probably exceed the ceiling for what Rendon could earn as a free agent, so any extension would come in at a bit less than that."

Online Elvir Ovcina

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Re: 2018-2019 Offseason Moves
« Reply #1288 on: January 25, 2019, 03:03:14 pm »
Also, when you look at Machado's power numbers, specifically HRs, how much do you have to factor in his playing 81 games a year in Camden Yards?

Depends who you are.  If you're the Phillies, not much.  Like Camden Yards, sitting in the left field stands there is like playing shortstop in many other parks.

Offline Trea Burner

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Re: 2018-2019 Offseason Moves
« Reply #1289 on: January 26, 2019, 12:00:13 am »
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Developing @MLB news this evening with #Padres. They are involved in pursuing Machado in free agency and Realmuto via trade, per @Feinsand. @MLBNetwork

https://twitter.com/jonmorosi/status/1088945536881831936?s=21

Oh the madness!!

Offline imref

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Re: 2018-2019 Offseason Moves
« Reply #1290 on: January 26, 2019, 05:13:39 pm »
Mets sign Justin Wilson to a two year / $10 million deal. Held LBB to a .188 average last year. Would have been a good fit here.  Oliver Perez is off the market too

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Re: 2018-2019 Offseason Moves
« Reply #1291 on: January 26, 2019, 06:17:44 pm »
https://twitter.com/jonmorosi/status/1088945536881831936?s=21

Oh the madness!!

It continually amazes me that AJ Preller still has a job running a major league baseball team.  His first offseason was like watching a 12-year-old pick stocks.

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Re: 2018-2019 Offseason Moves
« Reply #1292 on: January 27, 2019, 09:25:08 am »
Boz, today, thinks it'll take $125M or thereabouts to "extend" Rendon. Thinks Machado might get $200M total and Bryce $250-300M. Philly for BH and CWS for Manny. LA out with the Pollock signing.

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Re: 2018-2019 Offseason Moves
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Re: 2018-2019 Offseason Moves
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Offline sixthree175

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Re: 2018-2019 Offseason Moves
« Reply #1296 on: January 27, 2019, 06:49:18 pm »
Mets sign Justin Wilson to a two year / $10 million deal. Held LBB to a .188 average last year. Would have been a good fit here.  Oliver Perez is off the market too
Justin Wilson is no LOOGY.  He can pitch multiple innings and has much upside. NL East looks like it will be a 4-team race, especially after the Phillies sign Harper or Machado. 

I'm not in favor of the LOOGY, but I think it's important be able to match up as needed in critical situations, depending on the specific splits of both the batter and the pitcher.  The Nats need at least one more established arm in that bullpen before the start of the regular season. 

Offline aBaltoNat

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Re: 2018-2019 Offseason Moves
« Reply #1297 on: January 27, 2019, 08:10:03 pm »
Strickland off the market. To the Mariners. Would've loved to have him in the pen.

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Re: 2018-2019 Offseason Moves
« Reply #1298 on: January 27, 2019, 08:24:01 pm »
Strickland off the market. To the Mariners. Would've loved to have him in the pen.

He got non-tendered from a bad team for a reason.  He's such a dick that even a big-market team in desperate need of righthanded relievers non-tendered him in his first arbitration year and he then hung out in the market until now.