2018-2019 Offseason Moves

[imref]

Solis has competition. Thank God.

yeah, uh, not sure that's the kind of competition we need.

[NatsAllThe Way]

Hopefully we get the Tampa Bay version of Vidal Nuño and not the Baltimore version.

[imref]

Hopefully we get the Tampa Bay version of Vidal Nuño and not the Baltimore version.

he had something like a .216 BA on balls in play against him last year, that seems unsustainable.

[CoryTheFormerExposFan]

Of course the hype is there but Harper and Boras were already the most famous MLB player and most famous agent already. I think he'll get a really fat deal but if the hype ends in a wet fart and an obvious face-saving deal he'll get questioned. I know if I'm a player I'm looking at this situation going, "It's mid-January and it looks like only 1-2 teams are even interested in Harper - what the hell?" These aren't the days of the Yankees throwing around 7-year deals to anyone with a .300 BA.

Also his hype for Harper is pretty much just Harper himself and the circumstances around him. Boras hasn't done anything on his own beyond throw out enormous numbers. What if he gets a Giancarlo Stanton-type deal, maybe $10 million more overall? He looks like a maroon. I just think Boras may have overplayed his hand. His client is arguably the #2 free agent in his own class and what if he gets a smaller deal than Manny?

Dude, he's going to get 30 plus million a year and somewhere around 300 million total to play baseball.  That's a "wet fart?"

[NJ Ave]

Of course the hype is there but Harper and Boras were already the most famous MLB player and most famous agent already. I think he'll get a really fat deal but if the hype ends in a wet fart and an obvious face-saving deal he'll get questioned. I know if I'm a player I'm looking at this situation going, "It's mid-January and it looks like only 1-2 teams are even interested in Harper - what the hell?" These aren't the days of the Yankees throwing around 7-year deals to anyone with a .300 BA.

Also his hype for Harper is pretty much just Harper himself and the circumstances around him. Boras hasn't done anything on his own beyond throw out enormous numbers. What if he gets a Giancarlo Stanton-type deal, maybe $10 million more overall? He looks like a maroon. I just think Boras may have overplayed his hand. His client is arguably the #2 free agent in his own class and what if he gets a smaller deal than Manny?

Reminder that Giancarlo Stanton is STILL under contract for 9 years/$270 million. At this point I wouldn't be surprised if Harper and Machado don't even break what *remains* on Stanton's deal, even after he earned his first $55 million from it.

[GburgNatsFan]

Boras is Manny's agent too, no?

Of course the hype is there but Harper and Boras were already the most famous MLB player and most famous agent already. I think he'll get a really fat deal but if the hype ends in a wet fart and an obvious face-saving deal he'll get questioned. I know if I'm a player I'm looking at this situation going, "It's mid-January and it looks like only 1-2 teams are even interested in Harper - what the hell?" These aren't the days of the Yankees throwing around 7-year deals to anyone with a .300 BA.

Also his hype for Harper is pretty much just Harper himself and the circumstances around him. Boras hasn't done anything on his own beyond throw out enormous numbers. What if he gets a Giancarlo Stanton-type deal, maybe $10 million more overall? He looks like a maroon. I just think Boras may have overplayed his hand. His client is arguably the #2 free agent in his own class and what if he gets a smaller deal than Manny?

[bluestreak]

Boras is Manny's agent too, no?

No. Dan Lozano

[UMDNats]

Dude, he's going to get 30 plus million a year and somewhere around 300 million total to play baseball.  That's a "wet fart?"

Dude, both Boras and Harper have played up the "biggest free agent in history" angle for the last 2 years. Getting a lesser deal than a power-hitting OF got from the Marlins would be a total embarrassment. Obviously he/they can be embarrassed all they want while they count their money but you're crazy if you don't think that is a black mark against Boras should that happen. Harper's legacy/brand is vital to him and to get a contract that is boilerplate after 2-3 years of huge, huge hype would cause people to be like, "lol, as always Harper is more hype than substance."

Honestly, if he gets less than Machado even that alone is enough for people to question Boras.

[hotshot]

Based on age and stats, Manny and Bryce should command pretty much the same deal. Manny plays the more valued position(s), but Camden Yards has to be factored into his offensive numbers.

[CoryTheFormerExposFan]

Dude, both Boras and Harper have played up the "biggest free agent in history" angle for the last 2 years. Getting a lesser deal than a power-hitting OF got from the Marlins would be a total embarrassment. Obviously he/they can be embarrassed all they want while they count their money but you're crazy if you don't think that is a black mark against Boras should that happen. Harper's legacy/brand is vital to him and to get a contract that is boilerplate after 2-3 years of huge, huge hype would cause people to be like, "lol, as always Harper is more hype than substance."

Honestly, if he gets less than Machado even that alone is enough for people to question Boras.

Boras has 1.9 BILLION in client contracts.  I think his rep is safe for showing them the money. 

[UMDNats]

Boras has 1.9 BILLION in client contracts.  I think his rep is safe for showing them the money. 

Of course, I meant more about Harper than anyone (his brand takes the biggest hit) but I think some of the shine will come off Boras too. 5-6 years ago there was no one better at convincing owners to spend huge money on veterans but now the landscape is different. We'll see.

[CoryTheFormerExposFan]

Of course, I meant more about Harper than anyone (his brand takes the biggest hit) but I think some of the shine will come off Boras too. 5-6 years ago there was no one better at convincing owners to spend huge money on veterans but now the landscape is different. We'll see.

I think it's more a league-wide trend to spend smarter, so Boras just happens to rep those guys that used to get those deals. 

[GburgNatsFan]

That power hitting OF from the Marlins plays a significantly better OF, too.   

Dude, both Boras and Harper have played up the "biggest free agent in history" angle for the last 2 years. Getting a lesser deal than a power-hitting OF got from the Marlins would be a total embarrassment. Obviously he/they can be embarrassed all they want while they count their money but you're crazy if you don't think that is a black mark against Boras should that happen. Harper's legacy/brand is vital to him and to get a contract that is boilerplate after 2-3 years of huge, huge hype would cause people to be like, "lol, as always Harper is more hype than substance."

Honestly, if he gets less than Machado even that alone is enough for people to question Boras.

[Copecwby20]

This whole crap is reminding me a lot of a girl that dicks you around and tugs on your heart strings when you are trying to lock it up.

freaking sign somewhere already... I really want Bryce to come back, but I'd rather have the whole matter settled.


Stop freaking with my emotions.

Also, anything that makes Boras look like a kangaroo is a bonus.

[sixthree175]

This whole crap is reminding me a lot of a girl that dicks you around and tugs on your heart strings when you are trying to lock it up.

freaking sign somewhere already... I really want Bryce to come back, but I'd rather have the whole matter settled.

Stop freaking with my emotions.

Also, anything that makes Boras look like a kangaroo is a bonus.

I guess five expletives at Four in the Morning is appropriate.

[Slateman]

I guess five expletives at Four in the Morning is appropriate.

There is no time when Cope's profanity is not appopriate

[JCA-CrystalCity]

I guess five expletives at Four in the Morning is appropriate.

the default on the system is to censor those words.  Anyone who is a member and elects not to have the autocensor on can't complain about the profanity. 

[Slateman]

the default on the system is to censor those words.  Anyone who is a member and elects not to have the autocensor on can't complain about the profanity. 

freak yeah

[Truconfidence]

After seeing what the Reds traded for Sonny Gray. I am upset , we should have been in on that.

[Copecwby20]

I guess five expletives at Four in the Morning is appropriate.

crap, that's me being nice.

[aBaltoNat]

Wonder if we have the money for a Shawn Kelley signing?

[sixthree175]

Lefty specialist -- Jerry Blevins or Olie Perez?  Will Matt Grace suffice?  Who else?   

Assumption: can't rely on Sammy Solis. 

Every roster spot is precious!

[Slateman]

I dont think Blevins is welcome back

[JCA-CrystalCity]

I would not mind Ollie, TBH.  Just use him right.

[Elvir Ovcina]

crap, that's me being nice.

The best part of this is that the autocensor turns it into "makes Boras look like a kangaroo..." 

Lefty specialist -- Jerry Blevins or Olie Perez?  Will Matt Grace suffice?  Who else?   

Assumption: can't rely on Sammy Solis. 

Every roster spot is precious!

LOOGYs are my single biggest axe to grind about roster construction.  You only have 25 roster spots.  There are not 30 lefthanded pitchers out there who are good enough to justify a roster spot for getting 1 or 2 outs 3 times a week and who are not good enough to justify a roster spot for other reasons.   There might not be 5.  Blevins and Perez are not among that 5, Perez's freakish season last year notwithstanding. 

If a guy is not good enough to be on a roster for another reason (for example, as a standard middle reliever) and can't reliably get lefthanders out, he doesn't deserve a spot merely because he is lefthanded.  That is where Solis is.