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Re: 2018-2019 Offseason Moves
« Reply #200 on: October 29, 2018, 06:01:55 pm »
Lol at Kimbrel not being elite

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« Reply #201 on: October 29, 2018, 06:14:50 pm »
Lol at Kimbrel not being elite

Certainly could do much worse than him.

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« Reply #202 on: October 29, 2018, 06:31:33 pm »
Certainly could do much worse than him.

Cant wait to pay him 17 million AAV

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« Reply #203 on: October 29, 2018, 07:51:00 pm »
I judge closers by how they make me feel protecting a lead. Preferably clean innings. Rooting in this Series for the Sawx, Kimbrel made me feel about as comfortable as Chad Cordero or Tyler Clippard once did.


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« Reply #206 on: October 31, 2018, 01:19:37 pm »
From Morosi:

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#Nats, reliever Trevor Rosenthal are making progress on a free-agent contract, source confirms. @BNightengale first reported the sides are finalizing a deal. @MLBNetwork @MLB

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« Reply #207 on: October 31, 2018, 01:20:16 pm »
From Morosi:


Sure, sounds good.  If we get the 2015 version I'll be very pleased.

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« Reply #208 on: October 31, 2018, 01:23:33 pm »
Looks like deal is finalized. This is a good move.

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« Reply #209 on: October 31, 2018, 01:25:49 pm »
Already using the freed up Harper money :stir:

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« Reply #210 on: October 31, 2018, 01:25:55 pm »
Looks like deal is finalized. This is a good move.

Just 28, coming off TJ, was throwing in the upper 90s in a recent showcase.  A bit risky, but tons of upside.

guess that means no Herrera or Holland next year.

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« Reply #211 on: October 31, 2018, 01:51:41 pm »
How much?

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« Reply #212 on: October 31, 2018, 01:52:40 pm »
Just 28, coming off TJ, was throwing in the upper 90s in a recent showcase.  A bit risky, but tons of upside.

guess that means no Herrera or Holland next year.

If Holland gets more than 7 million AAV next season, it's a joke

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« Reply #213 on: October 31, 2018, 02:21:15 pm »
@Joelsherman1
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Trevor Rosenthal, who missed last yr after Tommy John surgery, is close to a deal as @BNightengale. 1st reported. It is a major league deal. Hear it is similar to 1-yr, $6M deal that Greg Holland signed with #Rockies after Tommy John surgery.

With buyout on '19 option Rosenthal is guaranteed no less than $7M. Mutual option vests with 50Gs or 30 finished would guarantee another $7M in '19, plus Gs/GF bonuses could make whole deal worth 2 years at about $28M if Rosenthal is healthy and pitches regularly #Nationals

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« Reply #214 on: October 31, 2018, 02:30:23 pm »
From MLB Trade Rumors:

12:58pm: Unsurprisingly, Joel Sherman of the New York Post tweets, it’ll be a MLB deal that’s structured similarly to the contract that Greg Holland signed with the Rockies for the 2016 campaign. Holland, another Boras client and former closer who was returning from Tommy John surgery on a similar timeline, received a $7MM guarantee in his deal, which also included a hefty incentives package and vesting player option.

In this case, Rosenthal will also be promised $7MM. He can earn up to $14MM in salary for the 2019 campaign, through operation of incentives, and the deal includes a vesting player option that will seemingly be valued at $15MM. Sherman and Jon Heyman of Fancred (Twitter link) both provided relevant information, with Jeff Passan of Yahoo Sports (Twitter link) seemingly resolving some inconsistencies from those reports.

Of course, it’s relatively rare in these cases that the second season makes sense for both sides. If Rosenthal throws well enough to trigger the player option, he could well end up deciding to test the open market, though that might also mean he’d draw a qualifying offer from the Nats. In any event, those possibilities will certainly depend upon his performance in the season to come.

12:00pm: The Nationals are “finalizing” a contract with free agent right-hander Trevor Rosenthal, according to Bob Nightengale of USA Today (Twitter link). Terms of the prospective agreement are not yet known.



Rosenthal, a client of the Boras Corporation, recently put on a showcase to exhibit his form after rehabbing from Tommy John surgery. Evidently, he impressed the Washington brass, who’ll take a shot on the hard-throwing former Cardinals late-inning standby.

While it’s not yet clear just what role will be given to Rosenthal, who’s still just 28 years of age, the report suggests he’ll “anchor the bullpen.” Though southpaw Sean Doolittle figures to have the inside track on the ninth inning, given his outstanding (albeit injury-shortened) 2018 showing, the Nats could certainly use Rosenthal as their top set-up option or perhaps get more creative in their pen usage based upon situations.

The chance at high-leverage innings seems to have been a motivating factor for Rosenthal, who said as much in an interesting recent chat with Rob Rains of STLSportsPage.com. Rosenthal also held true to his stated desire to put pen to paper before the start of November.

Rosenthal’s TJ procedure took place in late August of 2017, so he is now already about 14 months out from the operating table. There’s every reason to think that he’ll be a full go for Spring Training, particularly since he has already shown that he’s capable of working in his customary upper-nineties velocity.

Of course, the real question with Rosenthal has never been one of arm strength. He has at times dealt with control issues, dishing out 5.4 walks per nine in the 2014 season and a hefty 6.5 free passes per nine in 2016. That latter campaign was a rough one for the flamethrower: he also surrendered a whopping .425 BABIP, lost his closing job, and ended the season with a 4.46 ERA.

In camp in 2017, Rosenthal dabbled with a return to a starting role — he functioned in that capacity in the minors, but never in the bigs — but ultimately returned to the St. Louis relief corps. Before going down to a torn UCL, Rosenthal threw 47 2/3 innings of 3.40 ERA ball with a career-high 14.3 K/9 against 3.8 BB/9. Rosenthal carried a personal-high 15.9% swinging-strike rate for the season, finding an extra gear as he completely abandoned his curve in favor of his slider.

For the Nats, the move represents the second interesting relief addition of the still-early offseason. Previously, the club added Kyle Barracough via trade. These two righties both come with their share of uncertainty, but will unquestionably add a ton of velocity to the Washington pen.

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« Reply #215 on: October 31, 2018, 02:33:34 pm »
That's a great deal for us. Love to see Rizzo attacking the bullpen market early.

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« Reply #216 on: October 31, 2018, 02:36:55 pm »
In before Slate nages and moans about the deal.

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« Reply #217 on: October 31, 2018, 02:38:48 pm »
I'd love to see Doo, Rosenthal and Holland as our late innings guys. Not so much Herrera

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« Reply #218 on: October 31, 2018, 02:39:17 pm »
In before Slate nages and moans about the deal.

I am honestly surprised he hasn't already. And called somebody stupid in the process.

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Re: 2018-2019 Offseason Moves
« Reply #219 on: October 31, 2018, 02:43:20 pm »
Well between him and Doolittle, we might have a closer for the whole season.

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« Reply #220 on: October 31, 2018, 03:03:17 pm »
I'd love to see Doo, Rosenthal and Holland as our late innings guys. Not so much Herrera

Doubt Holland or any other really high-priced reliever is in play after this pick up.

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« Reply #221 on: October 31, 2018, 03:05:51 pm »
So who’s going to close 2021?

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« Reply #222 on: October 31, 2018, 03:38:40 pm »
So who’s going to close 2021?

Jhon Romero

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« Reply #223 on: October 31, 2018, 03:40:34 pm »
So who’s going to close 2021?

well koda glover is due to break out any day now

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« Reply #224 on: October 31, 2018, 04:21:12 pm »