Fire Matt Williams! (2015) - Standard Decision.

[Matugi]

Lobaton played today. To be fair, who should be hitting fifth?

Platoon Robinson/Espinosa batting 5th as Espinosa plays against LHPs and Robinson against RHPs.  Of course, this is in the event they don't bench Desi or simply send Robinson back to the bench full time.

[whytev]

I'm getting tired of Matt's shtick.  His pitcher handling is one thing, I'm neither here nor there about yesterday simply because it was bad luck, but my god why the freak does he keep batting one of the worst offensive catchers in the league fifth?  Ramos is absolutely terrible offensively, he's only a 7 hole hitter because we happen to have an even worse offensive player on the team who should be batting 8th but is idiotically batting 7th.  I have no idea how many offensive runs Ramos has cost us with GIDPs but it's got to be toward's the league's top.  He has been, statistically, the worst offensive catcher in baseball, and overall he's last in WAR among regular catchers.

Remember when we lost game 3 against the Braves, who drove in the only run? Also when we won game 1 against them, who drove in the first one? You might be crazy.

Edit:

http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=c&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=150&type=1&season=2015&month=0&season1=2015&ind=0&team=0&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0&sort=10,d

Okay he's just out of the top half of the majors in OPS among starting catchers. What a bum.

[Matugi]

Remember when we lost game 3 against the Braves, who drove in the only run? Also when we won game 1 against them, who drove in the first one? You might be crazy.

Edit:

http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=c&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=150&type=1&season=2015&month=0&season1=2015&ind=0&team=0&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0&sort=10,d

Okay he's just out of the top half of the majors in OPS among starting catchers. What a bum.

RBIs as a qualification for a hitter are absolutely meaningless.

That being said, we can cherry pick stats all day.

6th worst K/BB ratio, 13th worst ISO, 12th worst wOBA, 10th worst wRAA, 11th worst wRC+.

This is, of course, JUST looking at catchers and has nil to do with where he bats in the lineup.  And he got two damn homeruns against position players.

[CALSGR8]

I click on this so it becomes the the bottom thread

[whytev]

RBIs as a qualification for a hitter are absolutely meaningless.

That being said, we can cherry pick stats all day.

6th worst K/BB ratio, 13th worst ISO, 12th worst wOBA, 10th worst wRAA, 11th worst wRC+.

This is, of course, JUST looking at catchers and has nil to do with where he bats in the lineup.  And he got two damn homeruns against position players.

Minimum same number of plate appearances?

Seattle's starting catcher isn't even batting .200. He's good defensively and basically all his hits are homers so nobody cares.

[skippy1999]

Seattle's starting catcher isn't even batting .200. He's good defensively and basically all his hits are homers so nobody cares.

Hasn't lack of offense been a chronic problem for the Mariners for years now? Maybe somebody should care. 

[whytev]

Hasn't lack of offense been a chronic problem for the Mariners for years now? Maybe somebody should care.

It's about managing expectations. Few catchers are elite offensive players, and most of those who are get moved positions.

[skippy1999]

It's about managing expectations. Few catchers are elite offensive players, and most of those who are get moved positions.

Ah ok.  But Wilson doesn't really seem to be elite at catching either

[whytev]

Ah ok.  But Wilson doesn't really seem to be elite at catching either

Lobaton starts on a lot of other teams. We're doing ok.

Remember, Wilson has caught two no nos. Many catchers never get a chance to catch one.

[DPMOmaha]

Thomas Boswell @ThomasBoswellWP
In a 9-3 game, 6-1 early by 6th, Williams got Carpenter, Trienan and Rivera warm without bringing them in.

[Ray D]

Thomas Boswell @ThomasBoswellWP
In a 9-3 game, 6-1 early by 6th, Williams got Carpenter, Trienan and Rivera warm without bringing them in.

Maybe they needed the work.

[Smithian]

Maybe they needed the work.

Very possible. And maybe Roark just got out of jams

[blue911]

Very possible. And maybe Roark just got out of jams

And very possible Roark struggles again. Without context, Boswell sounds like an idiot. No matter how bad Williams is, you have to paint the whole picture if you want your criticism to be taken seriously

[whytev]

RBIs as a qualification for a hitter are absolutely meaningless.

That being said, we can cherry pick stats all day.

6th worst K/BB ratio, 13th worst ISO, 12th worst wOBA, 10th worst wRAA, 11th worst wRC+.

This is, of course, JUST looking at catchers and has nil to do with where he bats in the lineup.  And he got two damn homeruns against position players.

Hi.

[whytev]

Hasn't lack of offense been a chronic problem for the Mariners for years now? Maybe somebody should care.

LOL

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/07/mariners-nearing-deal-for-catcher.html

[skippy1999]

LOL

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/07/mariners-nearing-deal-for-catcher.html

haha, I should so be a GM

[whytev]

haha, I should so be a GM

I'm not going to stop being a Ramos apologist.

[Matugi]

Hi.

What's your point?  He's still trash.

[PC]

Mark Zuckerman        ✔ @ZuckermanCSN

Williams says decision to hold Scherzer til Sunday was with long-term in mind, not matchups. "His workload has been immense."

[PC]

Mark Zuckerman        ✔ @ZuckermanCSN

Williams says decision to hold Scherzer til Sunday was with long-term in mind, not matchups. "His workload has been immense."

Who gives the go ahead for his "immense" workload???

[PebbleBall]

Bump

[whytev]

Bump

Based on...?

[PebbleBall]

Based on...?

[Clever]

[whytev]

If only Williams had the magic secret to making Greinke hittable.