NL East Race Watch

[GburgNatsFan]

They didn't dominate us last night. Strasburg crap the bed like he often does in Atlanta. Otherwise, we put up six against their "A" pitching.

It appears that the Braves will continue to dominate us this year.  We have 8 games remaining with them.  Our best hope for a division title is to hope the rest of the NL beats up on them.

[TigerFan]

He refuses to quit you.

STOP posting with my avatar.  I'm sending a C&D posthaste.

[Slateman]

STOP posting with my avatar.  I'm sending a C&D posthaste.

You love me and you know it

[TigerFan]

You love me and you know it

As much as that avatar is a cocksmithian choice I like it 100% better than mine.  I was going freaking nuts seeing my crap saying things only a special child would say 

[Slateman]

As much as that avatar is a cocksmithian choice I like it 100% better than mine.  I was going freaking nuts seeing my crap saying things only a special child would say 

We both know Alan Trammel was overrated

[TigerFan]

We both know Alan Trammel was overrated

As a coach, perhaps he has bitten off more than he could chew.  As a player I would take him 99/100 times against Sweet Lou

[Slateman]

As a coach, perhaps he has bitten off more than he could chew.  As a player I would take him 99/100 times against Sweet Lou

Most overrated player in baseball history

[TigerFan]

Most overrated player in baseball history

Whitaker?  He was overrated but not that much...

[Slateman]

Whitaker?  He was overrated but not that much...

Trammel.

Whitaker was awesome and silky smooth

[Mathguy]

Cal Ripken

Most overrated player in baseball history

[TigerFan]

Most overrated player in baseball history

Bryce Harper

[mitlen]

Cal Ripken

I thought I was the only one.

[Slateman]

I thought I was the only one.

Somewhere, hammonds is sharpening his pitchfork

[mitlen]

Somewhere, hammonds is sharpening his pitchfork

Can't hurt Santa.   

[tomterp]

Cal Ripken

I recall BP did a thing on his defense where they ended up ranking him the 2nd best defensive shortstop in the recent past few decades, behind only the Wiz.  Cal was a master of positioning, he could read the pitches vs the hitter and seemed always to be shading the right way.  And he was a decent slugger at a position that didn't have many. 

[TigerFan]

I recall BP did a thing on his defense where they ended up ranking him the 2nd best defensive shortstop in the recent past few decades, behind only the Wiz.  Cal was a master of positioning, he could read the pitches vs the hitter and seemed always to be shading the right way.  And he was a decent slugger at a position that didn't have many.

I'm pretty sure/hoping that is more of a local hatred than true hating on someone like Cal who helped to revolutionize the position into more than a defense only position.

[whytev]

I recall BP did a thing on his defense where they ended up ranking him the 2nd best defensive shortstop in the recent past few decades, behind only the Wiz.  Cal was a master of positioning, he could read the pitches vs the hitter and seemed always to be shading the right way.  And he was a decent slugger at a position that didn't have many.

Ordoñez is #2. Hands down.

[Slateman]

I'm pretty sure/hoping that is more of a local hatred than true hating on someone like Cal who helped to revolutionize the position into more than a defense only position.

Nobody locally hates Cal

[Mathguy]

Sorry, but this claim of shortstop once being only a defense position is silly.  Anyone remember Honus Wagner ?

I'm pretty sure/hoping that is more of a local hatred than true hating on someone like Cal who helped to revolutionize the position into more than a defense only position.

[TigerFan]

Sorry, but this claim of shortstop once being only a defense position is silly.  Anyone remember Honus Wagner ?

If your best choice of SS not being defensive forward is someone that played over 100 years ago, you're not convincing me.

[Mathguy]

Nice spin, but the position hasn't been just defensive for over 100 years

If your best choice of SS not being defensive forward is someone that played over 100 years ago, you're not convincing me.

[TigerFan]

Nice spin, but the position hasn't been just defensive for over 100 years

No spin at all.

I would imagine that as far as offensive output goes, over the last 100 years, or 20 years it would look something like:

1B
RF
LF
3B
2B
CF
C/SS

[tomterp]

Ordoñez is #2. Hands down.

I'm open to persuasive evidence.   

[slhubic]

Most overrated player in baseball history

'derek jeter'

[tomterp]

Most overrated player in baseball history

Joe Carter