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Offline Count Walewski

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Re: Offseason moves?
« Reply #2175 on: December 28, 2013, 07:30:37 pm »
I suppose I'd be ok with Tanaka if it means we'd flip another starter for a quality bat.

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« Reply #2176 on: December 28, 2013, 07:45:50 pm »
because it's ovy's fault that his team around him is always crap. just because he hasn't won one yet doesn't mean he's any less of a superstar.


I didn't ever imply that it makes him any less of a superstar...all I've said is that the awards are less important without a Cup...nothing more, nothing less.

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« Reply #2177 on: December 29, 2013, 06:01:38 am »
Does anyone think the braves make a run at him?

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« Reply #2178 on: December 29, 2013, 06:17:10 am »
Does anyone think the braves make a run at him?
Look for it.  Also the Angels have been quiet so far.

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« Reply #2179 on: December 29, 2013, 08:47:53 am »
Does anyone think the braves make a run at him?

Braves ownership doesn't spend money other than Upton who proved to be a huge bust last year. I see them getting a starter through a trade.

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« Reply #2180 on: December 30, 2013, 07:26:17 pm »
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The Nationals have re-signed second baseman Will Rhymes to a minor-league deal with a spring training invite, according to his agency, Beverly Hills Sports Council (on Twitter). Rhymes, 30, hit .274/.360/.349 in 530 plate appearances at Triple-A Syracuse last season. He has a .266/.328/.343 line in 449 career big-league plate appearances with the Tigers and Rays.

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« Reply #2181 on: December 30, 2013, 07:39:06 pm »


I hope they give him a shot. Maybe they will trade Espy now.

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« Reply #2182 on: December 31, 2013, 07:14:50 am »
I hope they give him a shot. Maybe they will trade Espy now.

Would rather keep Espi. Can fill the utility infielder role nicely. And who knows, maybe if we don't let him play full time, he'll heal.

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« Reply #2183 on: December 31, 2013, 08:10:59 am »
it looks like they are lining up a lot of depth at 2d right now.  With Burris and Rhymes, plus Walters, Kobernus, and Espinosa, they have options if one of Rendon, Zimmerman, or LaRoche has problems.  Right now, are Rendon and Espinosa the backup SSs?

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« Reply #2184 on: December 31, 2013, 08:37:30 am »
it looks like they are lining up a lot of depth at 2d right now.  With Burris and Rhymes, plus Walters, Kobernus, and Espinosa, they have options if one of Rendon, Zimmerman, or LaRoche has problems.  Right now, are Rendon and Espinosa the backup SSs?

Espinosa is. Rendon . . . no

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« Reply #2185 on: December 31, 2013, 08:53:50 am »
You can't have everything, but maybe the long term DL / suspension I think would hurt the team the most this year among the position players would be Desmond.  In contrast to 2012, when Desi's DL stint coincided with a healthy Espinosa being able to slide over, if Desi were to go down for any stretch, we'd be stuck with hoping Espinosa returns to form he has not shown since 8/2012.

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« Reply #2186 on: December 31, 2013, 09:14:29 am »
You can't have everything, but maybe the long term DL / suspension I think would hurt the team the most this year among the position players would be Desmond.  In contrast to 2012, when Desi's DL stint coincided with a healthy Espinosa being able to slide over, if Desi were to go down for any stretch, we'd be stuck with hoping Espinosa returns to form he has not shown since 8/2012.

If, and it's a big if, Zimmerman and Rendon are healthy along with Laroche producing, we could survive a short DL stint from Desmond. We could live with Espinosa playing very good defense and being a black hole.

Now, if we're talking about Zimmemran going down too, and Laroche sucking like last year, yea, Desi is a problem. Someone will have to step up. But I think Espinosa and Walters provide depth at shortstop.

I still am waiting to pass judgement on Danny Espinosa. I want to see what he looks like in Spring Training.

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« Reply #2187 on: December 31, 2013, 10:57:51 am »
  Right now, are Rendon and Espinosa the backup SSs?

Rendon cannot play shortstop.

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« Reply #2188 on: December 31, 2013, 11:33:36 am »
I thought they gave him a few innings last spring, but yes, I would not leave him there longer than a few innings in an emergency.

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« Reply #2189 on: December 31, 2013, 11:54:24 am »
He played 4 games at short last year.  He'd be fine in a pinch.

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« Reply #2190 on: December 31, 2013, 12:08:24 pm »
He played 4 games at short last year.

And my recollection is that he looked very uncomfortable there, did not have the range or arm for shortstop, and didn't get rid of the ball quickly enough.  Shortstop is the most important defensive postion (besides pitcher of course), you don't want to mess around.  This is an argument for keeping Espinosa around.

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« Reply #2191 on: December 31, 2013, 12:14:20 pm »
And my recollection is that he looked very uncomfortable there, did not have the range or arm for shortstop, and didn't get rid of the ball quickly enough.  Shortstop is the most important defensive postion (besides pitcher of course), you don't want to mess around.  This is an argument for keeping Espinosa around.

Yes, keep Espinosa...but he hits like Kevin Elster. Ugh.

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« Reply #2192 on: December 31, 2013, 12:18:54 pm »
He played 4 games at short last year.  He'd be fine in a pinch.



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« Reply #2193 on: December 31, 2013, 12:41:46 pm »
And my recollection is that he looked very uncomfortable there, did not have the range or arm for shortstop, and didn't get rid of the ball quickly enough.  Shortstop is the most important defensive postion (besides pitcher of course), you don't want to mess around.  This is an argument for keeping Espinosa around.
Rendon has the arm for sure, definitely doesn't have the range though.

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« Reply #2194 on: December 31, 2013, 12:45:37 pm »
Rendon has the arm for sure,

Maybe, a barely adequate arm for shortstop.  But when you look at Espinosa or Desmond throw, the difference is quite profound.
Yes, keep Espinosa...but he hits like Kevin Elster. Ugh.

I believe that Espinosa will give you as much or more production against lefthanders than LaRoche.   It should be Zimmernan, Espinosa, Rendon, at first, second, third, against lefties.   Nothing else makes sense.

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« Reply #2195 on: December 31, 2013, 12:47:38 pm »
And my recollection is that he looked very uncomfortable there, did not have the range or arm for shortstop, and didn't get rid of the ball quickly enough.  Shortstop is the most important defensive postion (besides pitcher of course), you don't want to mess around.  This is an argument for keeping Espinosa around.
I'm just saying, if Desi went down for three days with the flu or something where he had to miss a couple of games, he wouldn't kill us for a game or two.  I think his arm would be fine.

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« Reply #2196 on: December 31, 2013, 03:58:39 pm »
I'm just saying, if Desi went down for three days with the flu or something where he had to miss a couple of games, he wouldn't kill us for a game or two.  I think his arm would be fine.
As an emergency shortstop, ok. Like an emergency catcher.   If Desmond is out three games, I'm comfortable with Espinosa at short, with Rendon filling in in case you have to pinch hit for Espinosa.   I am not comfortable with Rendon playing shortstop all three games.

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« Reply #2197 on: December 31, 2013, 04:00:28 pm »
Rendon at SS can't be worse than Cristian Guzman in RF.

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« Reply #2198 on: December 31, 2013, 04:10:14 pm »
Shh...  We don't talk about the dark times.

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« Reply #2199 on: December 31, 2013, 04:16:00 pm »
such guzman