Author Topic: Washington Redskins thread (2013) (Read 101642 times)

Smithian · « **Reply #1975 on:** December 08, 2013, 04:22:32 pm »

That press conference. Damn.

Slateman · « **Reply #1976 on:** December 08, 2013, 04:22:55 pm »

This just in: Jason Campbel passed for 350+ yards and 3 TDs

HalfSmokes · « **Reply #1977 on:** December 08, 2013, 04:26:17 pm »

So does new coach get to draft a qb? The Shanahan regime took the pile of garbage viny left poured some gasoline on it and left the next coach a flaming pile of crap

Terpfan76 · « **Reply #1978 on:** December 08, 2013, 04:32:27 pm »

Quote from: HalfSmokes on December 08, 2013, 04:26:17 pm

So does new coach get to draft a qb? The Shanahan regime took the pile of garbage viny left poured some gasoline on it and left the next coach a flaming pile of crap

perhaps we should find out if anyone with any kind of pedigree actually wants to coach this team.

hell, you are to RGIII as MDS is to Rexy...

Slateman · « **Reply #1979 on:** December 08, 2013, 04:32:58 pm »

Did anyone else catch the post game presser?

Terpfan76 · « **Reply #1980 on:** December 08, 2013, 04:34:25 pm »

Quote from: Slateman on December 08, 2013, 04:32:58 pm

Did anyone else catch the post game presser?

no. Funny?

Slateman · « **Reply #1981 on:** December 08, 2013, 04:35:55 pm »

Quote from: Terpfan76 on December 08, 2013, 04:34:25 pm

no. Funny?

I'm sure it will be used in the sports shows on ESPN Radio and WJFK. But, yea, it was kind of awesome. He wouldn't name a starter for next week

HalfSmokes · « **Reply #1982 on:** December 08, 2013, 04:36:43 pm »

Quote from: Terpfan76 on December 08, 2013, 04:32:27 pm

perhaps we should find out if anyone with any kind of pedigree actually wants to coach this team.

hell, you are to RGIII as MDS is to Rexy...

Hopefully not, retreads seldom end well (how many coaches have rings with multiple teams?), is there anyone promising who was recently fired, sometimes a guy who fails in their first shot still has some left over drive. Snyder isn't selling any time soon, so hopefully having one of 32 jobs, an owner willing to spend, and the prospect of coaching RG3 is enough to get someone

Terpfan76 · « **Reply #1983 on:** December 08, 2013, 04:39:30 pm »

Art Briles, come on down. I'm not advocating it Spidey but seriously, you know Snyder will try it.

HalfSmokes · « **Reply #1984 on:** December 08, 2013, 04:41:14 pm »

Quote from: Terpfan76 on December 08, 2013, 04:39:30 pm

Art Briles, come on down. I'm not advocating it Spidey but seriously, you know Snyder will try it.

At this point, you have a lot invested in a qb, and you know he and rg3 can work together - I'd take him over a gruden

Terpfan76 · « **Reply #1985 on:** December 08, 2013, 04:46:24 pm »

Quote from: HalfSmokes on December 08, 2013, 04:41:14 pm

At this point, you have a lot invested in a qb, and you know he and rg3 can work together - I'd take him over a gruden

while I agree that they have a good history together, you're probably just gonna create another disaster.

mitlen · « **Reply #1986 on:** December 08, 2013, 05:00:16 pm »

Quote from: Terpfan76 on December 08, 2013, 04:46:24 pm

while I agree that they have a good history together, you're probably just gonna create another disaster.

This ... ya need someone who's a good QB/offensive coach with no history with RGIII. IMHO ... RGIII ain't gonna take ya to the promised land.

Terpfan76 · « **Reply #1987 on:** December 08, 2013, 05:04:00 pm »

Quote from: mitlen on December 08, 2013, 05:00:16 pm

This ... ya need someone who's a good QB/offensive coach with no history with RGIII. IMHO ... RGIII ain't gonna take ya to the promised land.

I think its way too early to say that but I fear that he may not get the chance as dysfunctional as the organization is.

mitlen · « **Reply #1988 on:** December 08, 2013, 05:09:28 pm »

Quote from: Terpfan76 on December 08, 2013, 05:04:00 pm

I think its way too early to say that but I fear that he may not get the chance as dysfunctional as the organization is.

I can say it 'cause I got no dog in the fight.

The new coach has to have the balls to say to Danny, "I'm in charge." I keep thinking about "The Tuna" who told Jerry Jones, "Don't come into the locker room. Don't come on the sidelines." If you want an attitude as a coach, you need someone like Cowher.

Smithian · « **Reply #1989 on:** December 08, 2013, 05:14:25 pm »

The Redskins have invested way too much in RGIII and saw way too much promise from him as a rookie to give up on him in his second year after he missed the whole offseason and was on a team that sucked in almost every single way. Barring something crazy he will be our starter next season and beyond. I am sick of his off field act but this team needs to develop him instead of looking for yet another guy.

mitlen · « **Reply #1990 on:** December 08, 2013, 05:15:42 pm »

Quote from: Smithian on December 08, 2013, 05:14:25 pm

The Redskins have invested way too much out of RGIII and saw way too much promise from him as a rookie to give up on him in his second year after he missed the whole offseason and was on a team that sucked in almost every single way. Barring something crazy he will be our starter next season and beyond. I am sick of his off field act but this team needs to develop him instead of looking for yet another guy.

Don't give up on him but somebody needs the John Thompson school of thought, "Shut up and sit down. You're not in charge son."

HalfSmokes · « **Reply #1991 on:** December 08, 2013, 05:16:47 pm »

Quote from: Terpfan76 on December 08, 2013, 05:04:00 pm

I think its way too early to say that but I fear that he may not get the chance as dysfunctional as the organization is.

For the past four years the owner has left an experienced coach and gm in charge. That coach has failed- what 'functional' organization would keep shanny around after this run? (then again what functional organization trades three firsts and a second for the second best prospect in a draft)

spidernat · « **Reply #1992 on:** December 08, 2013, 05:16:55 pm »

Quote from: Terpfan76 on December 08, 2013, 02:37:37 pm

Wonder if Steve Tasker wants to coach special teams??

Smithian · « **Reply #1993 on:** December 08, 2013, 05:18:26 pm »

Quote from: mitlen on December 08, 2013, 05:00:16 pm

This ... ya need someone who's a good QB/offensive coach with no history with RGIII. IMHO ... RGIII ain't gonna take ya to the promised land.

Again, he looked like a stud last season and then missed the whole offseason and is on a team collapsing all over the place. This isn't all on him. and if Rex Grossman can take a team to the Super Bowl, I think RGIII will be just fine.

mitlen · « **Reply #1994 on:** December 08, 2013, 05:19:44 pm »

Quote from: Smithian on December 08, 2013, 05:18:26 pm

Again, he looked like a stud last season and then missed the whole offseason and is on a team collapsing all over the place. This isn't all on him. and if Rex Grossman can take a team to the Super Bowl, I think RGIII will be just fine.

We're on the same page Smithian. However, the coach needs to be in charge, not a 2nd year QB. I know I'm an outsider but that's the way I see it.

Kevrock · « **Reply #1995 on:** December 08, 2013, 05:21:11 pm »

Just keep losing for draft position.

spidernat · « **Reply #1996 on:** December 08, 2013, 05:21:43 pm »

Quote from: mitlen on December 08, 2013, 04:15:42 pm

Tomlin may be available.

That should improve the special teams unit.

I think Shanahan gets what he wants and gets fired tomorrow leaving Halsett as interim coach. Griffin may be a diva who will get coaches fired when he doesn't get his way but Shanahan is also a piece of crap (IMO). This was a toxic match from the outset destined to fail.

spidernat · « **Reply #1997 on:** December 08, 2013, 05:22:55 pm »

Quote from: Terpfan76 on December 08, 2013, 04:32:27 pm

perhaps we should find out if anyone with any kind of pedigree actually wants to coach this team.

hell, you are to RGIII as MDS is to Rexy...

HS is puzzling. He doesn't seem to like anyone with the organization (except for maybe Snyder).

mitlen · « **Reply #1998 on:** December 08, 2013, 05:23:23 pm »

Quote from: spidernat on December 08, 2013, 05:21:43 pm

That should improve the special teams unit.

He's hell on the sidelines on kickoffs.

Smithian · « **Reply #1999 on:** December 08, 2013, 05:23:56 pm »

Quote from: mitlen on December 08, 2013, 05:19:44 pm

We're on the same page Smithian. However, the coach needs to be in charge, not a 2nd year QB.

I agree. And I think some of this team's problems can be traced back to RGIII being a massive distraction throughout the offseason. It got ridiculous in training camp.

By every indication, he's a very smart and courteous person. Hopefully he learned from this offseason or Allen/new GM can pull him aside and let him know the power starts with a head coach and goes on down. It isn't shared.

I hope the new coach comes in with a plan to mold this franchise around RGIII for the next decade while also letting him know who is in charge, a la a Belichick/Brady or Coughlin/Manning. The QB may be a star but you know who is in charge.