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Offline sportsfan882

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Re: Washington Redskins thread (2013)
« Reply #500 on: September 09, 2013, 10:48:26 pm »
hold for now. He's their only option. No where to go but up after that game.

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Re: Washington Redskins thread (2013)
« Reply #501 on: September 09, 2013, 10:53:35 pm »
Converting 3rd downs and Penalties were a problem for us last year, and it looks like it's a problem this year too

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Re: Washington Redskins thread (2013)
« Reply #502 on: September 09, 2013, 11:03:03 pm »
K so I've got Alfred Morris on my fantasy team, you guys think last year was a fluke and I should dump him or think he'll be fine?


you're not serious are you?? One bad game? With the score as it was they pretty much had to abandon the ground attack. Give it until near mid season before you dump him. Bench him next week in fantasy? Sure but don't drop him... Well, if you were in my league I'd hope you would drop him.

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« Reply #503 on: September 09, 2013, 11:27:56 pm »
you're not serious are you?? One bad game? With the score as it was they pretty much had to abandon the ground attack
He looked atrocious and I have very little patience, but he's a local boy that i totally root for and I'm vowing not be too reactionary this year so you're right, I'll hang onto him for now.

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Re: Washington Redskins thread (2013)
« Reply #504 on: September 09, 2013, 11:33:24 pm »
No one played well tonight.   You cant base an entire season on one game .(unless you're SF screaming game and season ) ;)

I enjoyed RGIII presser.  NO EXCUSES NO RUST.  JUST DID NOT PLAY WELL.  Put it behind us and get ready for our next game.

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Re: Washington Redskins thread (2013)
« Reply #505 on: September 09, 2013, 11:51:12 pm »
RGIII needs to freaking throw the ball with authority. The defense played very well after the first quarter. Chris Thomson had a bad game. Hopefully we'll get a crap ton of pressure on Rodgers next week and get the ground game going over there.

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« Reply #506 on: September 09, 2013, 11:58:11 pm »
RGIII needs to freaking throw the ball with authority.
No matter what he says I think he was totally rusty, he played much better in the 2d half, no? I think he'll be fine.

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Re: Washington Redskins thread (2013)
« Reply #507 on: September 10, 2013, 12:09:25 am »
Just when you think we have a good quality team and a winnable opener at home vs a mediocre Eagles team this happens.

And they will be 0-2 after going to Green Bay next week.

Another prediction of yours I hope comes true.

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Re: Washington Redskins thread (2013)
« Reply #508 on: September 10, 2013, 12:16:30 am »
WTF! :wtf:

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Re: Washington Redskins thread (2013)
« Reply #509 on: September 10, 2013, 12:30:01 am »
I don't think it was rust, I think he's still hurt. He padded his #s late in the game once the Eagles took their foot off the gas.

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Re: Washington Redskins thread (2013)
« Reply #510 on: September 10, 2013, 08:18:02 am »
Griffin was not ready. Physically, mentally ... not at all. He looked scared to get out of the pocket. He threw off his back foot all night. He's not there and Dr. Andrews was right about holding him out till the 5th game of the season.

Defense is what we thought they would be. Can Redskins fans please stop pretending that Orakpo is a great pass rusher? He's not. He's a below average lineabacker, who's strength is rushing the passer. He was not being double teamed all night. He was not being held all night. He was simply ineffective.

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« Reply #511 on: September 10, 2013, 01:04:35 pm »
Kerrigan played a good game. Rambo was okay, liked what I saw out of Amerson though I wish he picked that Vick pass off in the 1st. Morris really freaked up last night. I don't know what to think about RGIII. Part of me thinks he'll be okay and we'll see more of what we saw in the 2nd half but part of me thinks he shouldn't be out there until week 4...

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Re: Washington Redskins thread (2013)
« Reply #512 on: September 10, 2013, 02:43:57 pm »
RGIII looked like crap first half, was fine in the second half. IMO we maybe win last night if RGIII plays a couple series in preseason week 4. That's hindsight though.

Our defense held early and then finally wore down before collecting themselves once the offense started holding onto the ball.

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« Reply #513 on: September 10, 2013, 02:44:42 pm »
My concern with RG3 is that it's not as much rust as it is that he's hurt due to his poor mechanics.

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« Reply #514 on: September 10, 2013, 02:49:47 pm »
Now that was a sweet throw from Robert.


:lmao:  That last TD pass was not a good pass. It was an awful decision that happened to work because the eagles safety looked like Madieu Williams and totally misplayed the throw.

This was a game they completely gave away because they were not prepared to play for one reason or another. Griffin looked bad for most of the game. He made horrid decisions which led to two interceptions and that cost the defense. Griffin was definitely rusty but I have to see what he'll bring over the next couple of games because he still is not 100%. They tried to turn him into a complete pocket passer and it hurt the running game because philly knew was much and centered around Morris and he often had no chance to get going. Having said that Morris' fumble was absolutely inexcusable! Then there was the missed pitch (a play they barely ran last season but for some reason they tried a handful of times last night with no success) but that was not a good pitch so that was both Griffin's and Morris fault. Of course what started all that freaking sequence was stupid ass Chris Thompson fair catching a punt at the freaking 4 yard line! When he did that I told my brother that was going to result in a safety.  :smh:  Then the idiot didn't learn his lesson and ended up doing the same crap and fair caught a punt at the 6. That's why he got benched. The timing with the WR's was off too but that should be OK with time IF Griffin holds up. I hope I'm wrong but Griffin looks like it's just a matter of time before he breaks down. They need to hold on to Cousins. They gave away two points on the safety because of a rookie decision and bad rb/qb execution. Forbath missed a FG that he has to make. And the coaches also failed. This pisses me off probably more than anything because it happens so frequently. Coaches panic under stress and they did so last night. Driving late in the game with 4th and 10 they hesitated too long on deciding which play to call and the Redskins were not able to break the huddle quickly enough to get to the line of scrimmage. They broke the huddle with 12 seconds remaining on the play clock and had to rush which led to Williams' false start and to a 4th and 15. That is on the coaches!  :bang:  The defense was forced to play 20 minutes in the first half! They were the guinea pig for the rest of the NFL in facing the fast paced offense the eagles will be running. You know they were gassed when they had players faking injury.  :hang:  All things considered the defense held up OK. They did have some tackling issues that need to be addressed. I know people are ripping Orakpo but he wasn't that bad last night. On a positive note Kerrigan passed the concussion tests and should be OK to play on Sunday in GB. Somebody ban TF already!  :stir:

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Re: Washington Redskins thread (2013)
« Reply #515 on: September 10, 2013, 03:18:15 pm »
Please don't allow Spider to ever become a Mod.  He will have this place down to 15ish posters instantly.   :roll:

How many times have you requested my banning?!   :evil:

What better place to watch the Pack take on the Skins than Sin City itself.  Saturday morning I fly out of BWI to see the Chippewa take on the Running Rebel.

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Re: Washington Redskins thread (2013)
« Reply #516 on: September 10, 2013, 03:21:00 pm »
All things considered the defense held up OK. They did have some tackling issues that need to be addressed. I know people are ripping Orakpo but he wasn't that bad last night. On a positive note Kerrigan passed the concussion tests and should be OK to play on Sunday in GB. Somebody ban TF already!  :stir:

the secondary looked god awful - it's a patch job and it shows

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Re: Washington Redskins thread (2013)
« Reply #517 on: September 10, 2013, 04:05:06 pm »
the secondary looked god awful - it's a patch job and it shows
I didn't think the secondary could be worse than last season and it isn't. Just bad. Again. At least this season the sucky players are young instead of old.

We'll need to really get after the passer this season or our defense will be the same as last season, which isn't bad but could be a heck of a lot better.

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Re: Washington Redskins thread (2013)
« Reply #518 on: September 10, 2013, 04:17:21 pm »
If the secondary is just as bad as last year, then the team will be worse since they're dealing with a first place schedule this year

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Re: Washington Redskins thread (2013)
« Reply #519 on: September 10, 2013, 04:27:23 pm »
Forbath missed a FG that he has to make. And the coaches also failed. This pisses me off probably more than anything because it happens so frequently. Coaches panic under stress and they did so last night. Driving late in the game with 4th and 10 they hesitated too long on deciding which play to call and the Redskins were not able to break the huddle quickly enough to get to the line of scrimmage. They broke the huddle with 12 seconds remaining on the play clock and had to rush which led to Williams' false start and to a 4th and 15. That is on the coaches!  :bang: 

That field goal miss was huge. If Forbath makes it, it's 33-24 during that drive with the false start (presumably they kick the extra point on Hankersons' 10-yard TD). They had first and 10 at the Eagles 37. Down by nine, you're play calling is different since your a few yards from being in field goal range (well, with Forbath maybe about 20 yards away) and potentially getting within six. No need for four incomplete passes in a row. Not trying to take away culpability from the coaches because they certainly deserve blame, but if that field goal is made, that drive is completely different.

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Re: Washington Redskins thread (2013)
« Reply #520 on: September 10, 2013, 07:40:09 pm »
Orakpo played pretty well. He was getting pressure on Vick and whether you want to hear it or not, he gets held a lot. Kerrigan is clearly the better player but as I said before, they benefit from each others presence. Was really impressed with Riley. I think we have a real player there. Rambo is a bit raw in coverage and all but the poor tackling is inexcusable.

I think Griffin may well have been better off playing a few series in the preseason but who knows. He did get better as the game went on. Pass protection needs to be better but then again, it probably would have been more effective if they had been able to establish any kind of running game. Hankerson is awfully inconsistent but he does have the ability to be a big time playmaker. Consistency is a must though.

I was also happy to see Griffin look for Reed and Davis. Reed looked good in the passing game. If he can become a decent blocker, he could be very good. Thompson needs to learn how to return kicks before he even considers bringing one out from the endzone again. Let Helu or Paul back there, or re sign Banks, at least he would have gotten to the 20.

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Re: Washington Redskins thread (2013)
« Reply #522 on: September 10, 2013, 08:01:44 pm »
I thought Rak played like crap. Dude got sucked in on so many option plays.

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Re: Washington Redskins thread (2013)
« Reply #523 on: September 11, 2013, 12:33:30 pm »
I thought Rak played like crap. Dude got sucked in on so many option plays.
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Re: Washington Redskins thread (2013)
« Reply #524 on: September 11, 2013, 08:23:58 pm »
Upon further review Orakpo was not good Monday night. He was pretty much handled all night by Peters. He still has not shown much more than a bullrush with no complimentary moves. The first 10 minutes of the first quarter were brutal and set up the rest of the game. I was shocked that they were only down 5 points after the first quarter. Not only did the eagles start off with a long drive but it culminated in a play that scored for the Redskins but also forced the defense to go back out again. Then Morris fumbles on the first play to force them back out again. Griffin throws an interception on the 4th play from scrimmage and they are out there yet again. Then 2 plays later they mishandle the pitch leading to a safety and the defense is out there again! To make matters worse they were ill prepared for what the eagles threw at them. They had no clue what to do with the TE and Celek ran wide open any time they wanted to target him. And they didn't adjust after the first couple times this play burned them. They looked as lost as teams did last year defending the option with Griffin and Morris. The defensive line was basically a non entity. Fletcher was not seen or heard from much. And of course Hall again confirmed that he is not a very good player.  :smh:

Rocca did not punt well. Forbath missed a FG that has to be cashed in on.

Griffin was not ready to play. The WR's didn't help much and dropped a couple of passes. And the OL was flagged for big penalties and at other times they were flat out beaten. Overall the team was not prepared to compete on Monday night. Hopefully they learned a lesson and we see a team with a different attitude on Sunday.