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Re: Washington Redskins thread (2013)
« Reply #3100 on: January 07, 2014, 11:58:32 am »
Snyder and Griffin will be running the draft war room.

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Re: Washington Redskins thread (2013)
« Reply #3101 on: January 07, 2014, 12:00:29 pm »
Snyder and Griffin will be running the draft war room.

I don't know about griffen, but Allen seems to me like Vinny + cap knoweldge

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Re: Washington Redskins thread (2013)
« Reply #3102 on: January 07, 2014, 12:03:56 pm »
but Allen seems to me like Vinny + cap knoweldge

So basically another Snyder sock puppet but this one is "good at math". I hope you're wrong.

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Re: Washington Redskins thread (2013)
« Reply #3103 on: January 07, 2014, 12:08:45 pm »
So basically another Snyder sock puppet but this one is "good at math". I hope you're wrong.

he was Davis and Gruden's puppet, then Shanny's, I guess we can believe that he's now empowered

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Re: Washington Redskins thread (2013)
« Reply #3104 on: January 07, 2014, 12:18:39 pm »
I don't know about griffen, but Allen seems to me like Vinny + cap knoweldge

he was Davis and Gruden's puppet, then Shanny's, I guess we can believe that he's now empowered

Was he?  Got examples that helped you come to this conclusion?

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Re: Washington Redskins thread (2013)
« Reply #3105 on: January 07, 2014, 12:40:30 pm »
Was he?  Got examples that helped you come to this conclusion?

under Shanny, it was explicit that he had control of player personal decisions. Allen has never been the one in charge, he's a cap specialist - http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/12/30/bruce-allen-takes-control-of-the-redskins/

unless you have a cite more credible than Florio?

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Re: Washington Redskins thread (2013)
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Re: Washington Redskins thread (2013)
« Reply #3107 on: January 07, 2014, 02:48:35 pm »
I don't know about griffen, but Allen seems to me like Vinny + cap knoweldge

This is why I want a real GM

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Re: Washington Redskins thread (2013)
« Reply #3109 on: January 07, 2014, 03:51:23 pm »
I'm not right.  The dude's track record isn't very good on making GM type decisions (see Bay, Tampa), but I'm hedging my bet that surrounded by good talent evaluators he can make a more informed decision.  That is what I'm hoping for.  There are plenty of people in football that failed the first time around but given another chance elsewhere they have succeeded. 

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Re: Washington Redskins thread (2013)
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Re: Washington Redskins thread (2013)
« Reply #3111 on: January 07, 2014, 09:29:45 pm »
http://www.csnwashington.com/football-washington-redskins/talk/rg3-voted-redskins-ed-block-courage-award-recipient

RGIII the recipient for the Ed Block Courage Award. Voted by the players.

you mean sally Jenkins's unsourced article is crap? I would have expected.more from such a talented sycophant

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Re: Washington Redskins thread (2013)
« Reply #3112 on: January 08, 2014, 07:26:12 am »
He might have only got 20 votes or so; just no one else was higher. 

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Re: Washington Redskins thread (2013)
« Reply #3113 on: January 08, 2014, 07:46:08 am »
He might have only got 20 votes or so; just no one else was higher. 

38% of the popular vote

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Re: Washington Redskins thread (2013)
« Reply #3114 on: January 08, 2014, 07:51:57 am »
38% of the vote or 38% of the team?  they all might not have voted.  Don't see this in the article.  If things had turned out better he would have gotten like 90%.  38% is pretty underwhleming when one thinks of a QB who came back earlier than expected from a major knee surgery.


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Re: Washington Redskins thread (2013)
« Reply #3116 on: January 08, 2014, 11:32:42 am »
38% of the vote or 38% of the team?  they all might not have voted.  Don't see this in the article.  If things had turned out better he would have gotten like 90%.  38% is pretty underwhleming when one thinks of a QB who came back earlier than expected from a major knee surgery.

...   RGIII won the Electoral College

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Re: Washington Redskins thread (2013)
« Reply #3117 on: January 08, 2014, 11:40:53 am »
38% of the vote or 38% of the team?  they all might not have voted.  Don't see this in the article.  If things had turned out better he would have gotten like 90%.  38% is pretty underwhleming when one thinks of a QB who came back earlier than expected from a major knee surgery.



20 of 53 = 38% (37.7

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Re: Washington Redskins thread (2013)
« Reply #3118 on: January 08, 2014, 11:59:23 am »
Do you know for sure they all voted or is it 38% of some lesser number of guys who actually voted? 

at max, he had 20 guys vote for him at the max--not that much and does not contradict any reports that some guys on the team resent him.  I thought Santana Moss comments during the season made it clear that he for one was not too happy with RG III.

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Re: Washington Redskins thread (2013)
« Reply #3119 on: January 08, 2014, 12:04:31 pm »
Well, if things go like I hope they do, half the team will be gone next year anyway. Crazy how things can change so drastically in a year. Last December Santana Moss was on the sideline on the verge of crying thanking RGIII for carrying them to a division title, now he supposedly doesn't like the guy.

Then again, nobody on here has a clue as to who likes RG3 or not. Except Sally Jenkins of course.

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Re: Washington Redskins thread (2013)
« Reply #3120 on: January 08, 2014, 12:07:23 pm »

at max, he had 20 guys vote for him at the max--not that much and does not contradict any reports that some guys on the team resent him.  I thought Santana Moss comments during the season made it clear that he for one was not too happy with RG III.


Proof of this?  Moss' comments weren't clear to me.  I think it was more like leadership advice to the young QB.

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Re: Washington Redskins thread (2013)
« Reply #3121 on: January 08, 2014, 12:23:52 pm »
Do you know for sure they all voted or is it 38% of some lesser number of guys who actually voted? 

at max, he had 20 guys vote for him at the max--not that much and does not contradict any reports that some guys on the team resent him.  I thought Santana Moss comments during the season made it clear that he for one was not too happy with RG III.


The least amount it can be is 37.7%. There are only 53 players on the roster. If 20 voted for him, then the least it can be is 37.7%

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Re: Washington Redskins thread (2013)
« Reply #3122 on: January 08, 2014, 12:56:14 pm »
I am blocked from viewing the video and didn't see any numbers in the print.  Did they say 20 guys voted for him?  Or 38%? if only 40 or some lower number voted you would have a lesser number at the same %.

anyway it's still not a majority which is strange given he was the major guy to come back from a big injury. 


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Re: Washington Redskins thread (2013)
« Reply #3123 on: January 08, 2014, 01:03:01 pm »
I am blocked from viewing the video and didn't see any numbers in the print.  Did they say 20 guys voted for him?  Or 38%? if only 40 or some lower number voted you would have a lesser number at the same %.

anyway it's still not a majority which is strange given he was the major guy to come back from a big injury. 



You said 20 guys. "He might have only got 20 votes or so; just no one else was higher. "

It is a majority. The majority of the voters voted for Robert Griffin III.


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Re: Washington Redskins thread (2013)
« Reply #3124 on: January 08, 2014, 01:11:15 pm »
Ok, not an absolute majority.