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Offline dracnal

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Re: WP: Nats MASN deal renegotations will have a huge impact
« Reply #2225 on: May 14, 2019, 03:48:06 pm »
Best interest of baseball means nothing while Angelos has a court ordered injunction in place. Manfred and the Nats can do nothing but wait. The appeal goes directly to the NY Supreme Court, so no more winding through the appeal process. Angelos has very limited grounds for appeal and he'll lose. But it will take a while because that court was very slow last time.

It won't be $100 million. MASN will be refunded profit sharing distributions based on revised numbers. MLB takes 30% of TV fees. Still, about fifty million isn't nothing.

The big question is the new reset number starting in 2017. If the 2012 fees started at $59 million could they be $80+ now?

The real question is, will MASN be solvent given the clause that the Os get the same increase the Nats do.

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« Reply #2226 on: May 14, 2019, 04:26:17 pm »
The NY Supreme Court is a trial court below their appeals court

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« Reply #2227 on: May 14, 2019, 04:57:44 pm »
The NY Supreme Court is a trial court below their appeals court

Er, weird? I kinda thought the word 'Supreme' usually had a specific meaning...

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« Reply #2228 on: May 14, 2019, 05:03:10 pm »
Er, weird? I kinda thought the word 'Supreme' usually had a specific meaning...


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« Reply #2229 on: May 15, 2019, 05:49:58 pm »
https://sports.yahoo.com/mlb-panel-cuts-value-nats-tv-rights-dispute-185417804--mlb.html

MASN is done.  It's only a question of how long the Angelos family can keep postponing the matter in litigation.

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« Reply #2230 on: May 16, 2019, 08:23:11 am »
https://sports.yahoo.com/mlb-panel-cuts-value-nats-tv-rights-dispute-185417804--mlb.html

MASN is done.  It's only a question of how long the Angelos family can keep postponing the matter in litigation.


MASN's revenues are probably in the neighborhood of 180-200 million per year for now.   There is no reason they can't pay those rights fees to both teams.   Cord cutting is going to hit them hard though pretty quickly.

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Re: WP: Nats MASN deal renegotations will have a huge impact
« Reply #2231 on: May 16, 2019, 09:08:04 am »
When you take a step back, it is so on-brand for Angelos to spend all his energy milking every last penny out of a crappy MASN product, rather than actually making the product better and simply sharing the revenues more equally.

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« Reply #2232 on: May 16, 2019, 09:44:41 am »
When you take a step back, it is so on-brand for Angelos to spend all his energy milking every last penny out of a crappy MASN product, rather than actually making the product better and simply sharing the revenues more equally.
What's the incentive to make the product any better?   Revenue is almost entirely carriage fees, so it doesn't matter if anyone is watching or not.   Also, the best way to improve ratings is to have the 2 baseball teams win more!

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Re: WP: Nats MASN deal renegotations will have a huge impact
« Reply #2233 on: May 16, 2019, 10:13:26 am »
Its funny how this thread was started in 2012, and now that the Nats' window is closing, they might actually get some of the money they needed five years ago.

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« Reply #2234 on: May 16, 2019, 10:17:32 am »
Its funny how this thread was started in 2012, and now that the Nats' window is closing, they might actually get some of the money they needed five years ago.

They currently have the 5th highest payroll in baseball. More MASN money wouldn’t have pushed that any higher.

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« Reply #2235 on: May 16, 2019, 11:03:39 am »
They currently have the 5th highest payroll in baseball. More MASN money wouldn’t have pushed that any higher.
Except it would have allowed them to do less deferred money. Bryce Harper is likely still here if the Lerners werent' married to the idea of deferred money.

Now, maybe that's more the Lerners than the MASN money, but in the end, the Nationals have had to be more creative with contracts than their major market counterparts.

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« Reply #2236 on: May 16, 2019, 11:06:31 am »
Except it would have allowed them to do less deferred money. Bryce Harper is likely still here if the Lerners werent' married to the idea of deferred money.

None of us will never know the answer to that one. ;)

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« Reply #2237 on: May 16, 2019, 12:35:11 pm »
Er, weird? I kinda thought the word 'Supreme' usually had a specific meaning...

New York's highest court is the Court of Appeals. Maryland is the same way in terms of nomenclature, but in Maryland the trial courts aren't called "Supreme Court." New York is unique in that respect. New York and Maryland are the only states to call their highest courts the "Court of Appeals," although West Virginia's highest court is the "Supreme Court of Appeals," a name that comes from the former name of Virginia's highest court.

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Re: WP: Nats MASN deal renegotations will have a huge impact
« Reply #2238 on: May 16, 2019, 01:44:23 pm »
New York's highest court is the Court of Appeals. Maryland is the same way in terms of nomenclature, but in Maryland the trial courts aren't called "Supreme Court." New York is unique in that respect. New York and Maryland are the only states to call their highest courts the "Court of Appeals," although West Virginia's highest court is the "Supreme Court of Appeals," a name that comes from the former name of Virginia's highest court.

Neat - thanks for the great answer.

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« Reply #2239 on: May 16, 2019, 03:22:33 pm »
Kentucky spent the 1820's with two rival courts each claiming to be the supreme court

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Court_%E2%80%93_New_Court_controversy

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« Reply #2240 on: May 17, 2019, 09:41:10 am »
Slightly off-topic but this IS the MASN thread ....
Is MASN carrying Saturday night's game?  Bob or PF  (don't remember which) said they would be sitting out two games.  I know Sunday is Nationally televised.  But what about Saturday?

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« Reply #2241 on: May 17, 2019, 09:53:05 am »
Slightly off-topic but this IS the MASN thread ....
Is MASN carrying Saturday night's game?  Bob or PF  (don't remember which) said they would be sitting out two games.  I know Sunday is Nationally televised.  But what about Saturday?
Saturday night's game is on Fox; Sunday it's ESPN.

Offline Duke of Earl

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« Reply #2242 on: May 17, 2019, 10:09:44 am »
Saturday night's game is on Fox; Sunday it's ESPN.
Thanks.   (Not looking forward to listening to those Fox idiots.  They make you appreciate Bob and FP.)

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« Reply #2243 on: May 17, 2019, 10:22:22 am »
Coverage map and announcer teams for Saturday:

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Re: WP: Nats MASN deal renegotations will have a huge impact
« Reply #2244 on: May 17, 2019, 10:29:51 am »
looks like I have to drive to South Boston to watch the Sox.

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« Reply #2245 on: May 17, 2019, 10:32:34 am »
looks like I have to drive to South Boston to watch the Sox.
Or Raleigh.

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« Reply #2246 on: May 17, 2019, 10:36:33 am »
Or Raleigh.

South Boston will be an hour closer for him...

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« Reply #2247 on: May 17, 2019, 10:44:14 am »
Coverage map and announcer teams for Saturday:


I don't understand the logic behind this map. What's up with Raleigh and Philadelphia?

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« Reply #2248 on: May 17, 2019, 10:48:32 am »
Thanks.   (Not looking forward to listening to those Fox idiots.  They make you appreciate Bob and FP.)
Girardi does a great job.

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« Reply #2249 on: May 17, 2019, 10:51:50 am »
Girardi does a great job.
Yeah I like him, there are a couple of those Fox guys who are insufferable, but I don't know their names.