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Offline GburgNatsFan

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Re: WP: Nats MASN deal renegotations will have a huge impact
« Reply #2175 on: April 16, 2019, 01:12:11 pm »
Dmitri Young and Adam Dunn contributed more to the Nationals zeitgeist than Pudge Rodriguez.

Pudge needed a GIDP percentage added to his slash line.

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Re: WP: Nats MASN deal renegotations will have a huge impact
« Reply #2176 on: April 16, 2019, 01:16:33 pm »
What makes you say the Nats aren't extending Rendon ?


At this point, why would he re-sign with us? His value is sky-high right now, only going to get higher barring a collapse or injury, and he's set to be the single best player in the FA market this winter. He has no reason to sign now and not see what else is out there. how many teams would bid against each other for a prime 3B who is an all-around stud?

he hired Boras and we all know what Boras' MO is.

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Re: WP: Nats MASN deal renegotations will have a huge impact
« Reply #2177 on: April 16, 2019, 02:40:27 pm »
What makes you say the Nats aren't extending Rendon ?


They already low-balled him and he passed, don't know why I would hope they would treat him any different from their other homegrown players

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Re: WP: Nats MASN deal renegotations will have a huge impact
« Reply #2178 on: April 16, 2019, 02:45:18 pm »
They already low-balled him and he passed, don't know why I would hope they would treat him any different from their other homegrown players


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Re: WP: Nats MASN deal renegotations will have a huge impact
« Reply #2179 on: April 16, 2019, 05:05:08 pm »
https://blogs.fangraphs.com/the-orioles-and-nationals-are-suing-each-other-again/

recap of the history of the contract / litigation / arbitration

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Despite the deal, which the Sports Business Daily called “one of the most lopsided deals in sports TV history,” Angelos still voted against the Expos’ move to Washington, D.C. And since that deal was struck, the Orioles have resisted MASN’s obligation to pay the Nationals anything close to “fair market value” as required by the contract for Washington’s broadcast rights. Remember, the Orioles still own better than 70% of the network, so they control how much the network pays.
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It would seem that the Orioles’ lawyers have a much better batting average than their first basemen. And yes, this is now the second time the Orioles have gone around the clause in the MLB Constitution that says that teams aren’t allowed to sue each other or the league.

What’s next? Probably more litigation. The dividend dispute will be heard before the American Arbitration Association. Any decision by MLB’s arbitration panel will almost certainly be appealed. And the MASN dispute has grown so heated that whispers have begun that Angelos would rather move the team than lose the fight, though it is unclear how credible those whispers are. Portland has been mentioned among several cities as a potential destination, along with – ironically enough – Montreal.

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Re: WP: Nats MASN deal renegotations will have a huge impact
« Reply #2180 on: April 16, 2019, 05:46:20 pm »
I don't see the Orioles moving. That seems super extreme, though I could see the Angelos family deciding that Baltimore isn't big enough to really milk the cash cow, and moving the team to a more profitable/growing city could seem attractive especially if/when they lose the MASN dispute. Do they really care about Baltimore sports and the history of the Orioles? I don't know enough about the Angelos' ties to the city. 


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Re: WP: Nats MASN deal renegotations will have a huge impact
« Reply #2181 on: April 16, 2019, 05:55:26 pm »
I've taken many out of town guests (all predisposed to liking Washington over Baltimore as a city) to both stadiums. I have yet to have one prefer Nats Park. It's shiny and new but ... nothing particularly "charming" or memorable about it.


i have too and many prefer the Nats game because of the surrounding night life and of course we were a better team.

Dc nightlife shyts in Baltimore’s

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« Reply #2182 on: April 16, 2019, 08:06:16 pm »
i have too and many prefer the Nats game because of the surrounding night life and of course we were a better team.

Dc nightlife shyts in Baltimore’s
At 75, I wouldn't know or care about the "night life" but ... from what I see, what exists within walking distance of the park appears to be about the same as around OPACY environs.

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Re: WP: Nats MASN deal renegotations will have a huge impact
« Reply #2183 on: April 16, 2019, 10:39:06 pm »
I don't know enough about the Angelos' ties to the city.

Pretty simple.  He became the foremost expert on ambulance routes.

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Re: WP: Nats MASN deal renegotations will have a huge impact
« Reply #2184 on: April 17, 2019, 04:02:01 am »
How about safety issues ?  I would be interested in crime statistics around each of the areas.

At 75, I wouldn't know or care about the "night life" but ... from what I see, what exists within walking distance of the park appears to be about the same as around OPACY environs.

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« Reply #2185 on: April 17, 2019, 10:05:11 am »
How about safety issues ?  I would be interested in crime statistics around each of the areas.


That's probably a draw.

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Re: WP: Nats MASN deal renegotations will have a huge impact
« Reply #2186 on: April 17, 2019, 02:23:42 pm »
At 75, I wouldn't know or care about the "night life" but ... from what I see, what exists within walking distance of the park appears to be about the same as around OPACY environs.
I think Pratt street and inner harbor blows away anything near Nats Park now, including the stuff behind DOT towards the Navy yard.

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« Reply #2187 on: April 17, 2019, 03:51:44 pm »
How about safety issues ?  I would be interested in crime statistics around each of the areas.

Don't think there is a difference in crime. Not like OPACY is situated at North & Pennsylvania Avenues!

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« Reply #2188 on: April 17, 2019, 04:01:42 pm »
Don't think there is a difference in crime. Not like OPACY is situated at North & Pennsylvania Avenues!

Neither neighborhood is a dangerous for fans as the dodgers parking lot

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« Reply #2189 on: April 17, 2019, 11:59:12 pm »
Don't think there is a difference in crime. Not like OPACY is situated at North & Pennsylvania Avenues!

I’ll give the nod to the balpark where fans were trapped and some attacked because of a riot. (The politicos’ response to the riot is why I have not been back there since, after going multiple times since its pre-Angelos opening.


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Re: WP: Nats MASN deal renegotations will have a huge impact
« Reply #2191 on: April 23, 2019, 06:26:12 pm »
Ruling issued.
And sealed.
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“Public disclosure of such sensitive and confidential business and financial information would also have a detrimental impact on the parties. In addition, the public has no legitimate interest in such information,” Neuwirth wrote.

https://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/orioles/bs-sp-masn-arbitration-decision-sealed-20190423-story.html

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Re: WP: Nats MASN deal renegotations will have a huge impact
« Reply #2192 on: April 23, 2019, 08:15:11 pm »
i have too and many prefer the Nats game because of the surrounding night life and of course we were a better team.

Dc nightlife shyts in Baltimore’s
But that's like saying a normal turd is way better than the runs.

DC's nightlife sucks. THere is nothing in the city that would be an asset to retain players.

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Re: WP: Nats MASN deal renegotations will have a huge impact
« Reply #2193 on: April 23, 2019, 08:34:43 pm »
Ruling issued.
And sealed.
https://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/orioles/bs-sp-masn-arbitration-decision-sealed-20190423-story.html

The public has no interest? That's bullcrap, the Nats have used MASN as an excuse for their low payroll (back when it was lower), as a plan holder that makes it in my interest.

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Re: WP: Nats MASN deal renegotations will have a huge impact
« Reply #2194 on: April 23, 2019, 08:55:09 pm »
The Os aren’t publicly traded, MASN isn’t publicly traded and the nats are t publicly traded

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Re: WP: Nats MASN deal renegotations will have a huge impact
« Reply #2195 on: April 23, 2019, 08:56:58 pm »
So can we afford Kimbrel now?

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Re: WP: Nats MASN deal renegotations will have a huge impact
« Reply #2196 on: April 23, 2019, 09:02:46 pm »
Ruling issued.
And sealed.
https://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/orioles/bs-sp-masn-arbitration-decision-sealed-20190423-story.html

Apparently it can be appealed, which means it will be and this thread will live on longer than any of us.

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Re: WP: Nats MASN deal renegotations will have a huge impact
« Reply #2197 on: April 23, 2019, 09:28:32 pm »
At least we know who’s winning based on who files the appeal and appeal decisions are much less likely to be sealed, somtheres that

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Re: WP: Nats MASN deal renegotations will have a huge impact
« Reply #2198 on: April 24, 2019, 01:36:01 pm »
Ruling issued.
And sealed.
https://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/orioles/bs-sp-masn-arbitration-decision-sealed-20190423-story.html

"“Public disclosure of such sensitive and confidential business and financial information would also have a detrimental impact on the parties. In addition, the public has no legitimate interest in such information,” Neuwirth wrote."


The public that financed stadiums for private entities has no legitimate interest in such information? How autocratic of you! Journalists (if there are any willing to do their jobs), get to it...



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Re: WP: Nats MASN deal renegotations will have a huge impact
« Reply #2199 on: April 24, 2019, 01:47:31 pm »
The public that financed stadiums for private entities has no legitimate interest in such information? How autocratic of you! Journalists (if there are any willing to do their jobs), get to it...




It’s a great argument for cities to get nominal stakes in teams in exchange for financing - that way their sunshine laws would make a whole lot of stuff public