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Offline HalfSmokes

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Re: WP: Nats MASN deal renegotations will have a huge impact
« Reply #1475 on: February 04, 2016, 11:12:25 am »
his agent doesn't get to make that decision. If the next best offer is significantly lower, maybe payments for life are worth it. If he can get it indexed for inflation, it's probably the smart choice

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« Reply #1476 on: February 04, 2016, 11:20:00 am »
his agent doesn't get to make that decision. If the next best offer is significantly lower, maybe payments for life are worth it. If he can get it indexed for inflation, it's probably the smart choice
Touche, I hope you're right.  For that matter, why not allow him to ensure an income for his descendants.  Offer him a cool billion dollars, 5 million a year for 200 years.  Great deal for both sides IMO.  Index it for inflation if you want, I'm okay with that.

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Re: WP: Nats MASN deal renegotations will have a huge impact
« Reply #1477 on: February 04, 2016, 11:58:56 am »
Sixteen days ago marked the fourth anniversary of the launching of this thread...still waiting for that 'deal' and that 'huge impact'....

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« Reply #1478 on: February 04, 2016, 12:16:03 pm »
Sixteen days ago marked the fourth anniversary of the launching of this thread...still waiting for that 'deal' and that 'huge impact'....

It is having a huge impact. Zobrist, Hayward, Cespedes, etc. This entire offseason was hugely impacted by the renegotiations.

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Re: WP: Nats MASN deal renegotations will have a huge impact
« Reply #1479 on: February 04, 2016, 12:17:29 pm »
It is having a huge impact. Zobrist, Hayward, Cespedes, etc. This entire offseason was hugely impacted by the renegotiations.

Looking at it from that angle, that is true.

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« Reply #1480 on: February 04, 2016, 01:44:01 pm »
It is having a huge impact. Zobrist, Hayward, Cespedes, etc. This entire offseason was hugely impacted by the renegotiations.
The biggest problem with the whole Cespedes thing is not so much that we didn't sign him, but that the Mets did.  That will haunt the Nats all season.  If we lose the division by 2 games, and Werth has another injury-riddled crapfest of a season, we'll all know that Cespedes playing for the Nats instead of the Mets would've won it for us easily.

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Re: WP: Nats MASN deal renegotations will have a huge impact
« Reply #1481 on: February 04, 2016, 06:28:55 pm »
Barry Svrluga was just on MLB Network, and was asked why the Nats weren't able to get the FA they were after. He told them straight up that it has nothing to do with any notion of "clubhouse toxicity", but more about being forced to offer deferred payment contract as a result of the MASN mess. The truth is finally getting out there.

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Re: WP: Nats MASN deal renegotations will have a huge impact
« Reply #1482 on: February 04, 2016, 06:30:09 pm »
Boycott Baltimore

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Re: WP: Nats MASN deal renegotations will have a huge impact
« Reply #1484 on: February 04, 2016, 06:56:24 pm »
Boo Phil woods when you see him at the park

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Re: WP: Nats MASN deal renegotations will have a huge impact
« Reply #1485 on: February 04, 2016, 07:04:06 pm »
I see Wood, FP and Carpenter as moles   ....  not sure for which side though.

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Re: WP: Nats MASN deal renegotations will have a huge impact
« Reply #1486 on: February 04, 2016, 07:50:03 pm »
Because he works for MASN? He works for 106.7 too.

I like Phil Woods. :shrug:


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Re: WP: Nats MASN deal renegotations will have a huge impact
« Reply #1487 on: February 04, 2016, 07:52:27 pm »
Because he works for MASN? He works for 106.7 too.

I like Phil Woods. :shrug:



Though I think he's a dual fan, I like Phil too.

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Re: WP: Nats MASN deal renegotations will have a huge impact
« Reply #1488 on: February 04, 2016, 08:50:48 pm »
Maybe. But he grew up a DC fan, and does a pretty good job focusing solely on the Nats.

Though I think he's a dual fan, I like Phil too.

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« Reply #1489 on: February 04, 2016, 09:01:53 pm »
Maybe. But he grew up a DC fan, and does a pretty good job focusing solely on the Nats.


I think he slipped to the dark side during the Oreos days.   But he's DC baseball through and through.  OT  ...  has anyone ever heard him discuss the MASN deal in depth on the Saturday show?

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« Reply #1490 on: February 04, 2016, 09:15:05 pm »
I think he slipped to the dark side during the Oreos days.   But he's DC baseball through and through.  OT  ...  has anyone ever heard him discuss the MASN deal in depth on the Saturday show?
Never, apparently that's not allowed. It has been discussed on the weekday 5 PM show with Baltimore boy Tom Davis screaming for 5 minutes about how bad the Nats are behaving.

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« Reply #1491 on: February 04, 2016, 09:19:10 pm »
Never, apparently that's not allowed. It has been discussed on the weekday 5 PM show with Baltimore boy Tom Davis screaming for 5 minutes about how bad the Nats are behaving.

I try to catch him every Saturday (though he's off professin' in Tennessee).    It would be interesting if one of us planted a question.    :)

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« Reply #1492 on: February 04, 2016, 10:38:42 pm »
I tend to believe what Svrluga writes. I heard somewhere that the Cespedes' offer was for 7 Million in his first year, then it got bigger after the opt out. Add that to the deferred money and now it really makes sense why the Nats have failed to sign guys.

Time to form a human blockade in front of Angelos methinks.

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« Reply #1493 on: February 04, 2016, 10:42:44 pm »
Worst nightmare: The O's get Harper with our money.

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Re: WP: Nats MASN deal renegotations will have a huge impact
« Reply #1494 on: February 05, 2016, 08:33:47 am »
I tend to believe what Svrluga writes. I heard somewhere that the Cespedes' offer was for 7 Million in his first year, then it got bigger after the opt out. Add that to the deferred money and now it really makes sense why the Nats have failed to sign guys.

Time to form a human blockade in front of Angelos methinks.

I hope not, that would be a pathetic offer.

This crap needs to be resolved. Screwing up a team's competition window and ability to extend homegrown talent has enormous monetary consequences that extend for years.

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Re: WP: Nats MASN deal renegotations will have a huge impact
« Reply #1495 on: February 05, 2016, 08:42:57 am »
I don't know if this is possible, but I'd love to see MASN placed in receivership and enjoin the receiver from allowing either team to be paid while the dispute is ongoing.  That would give Angelos an incentive to bargain instead of stall and light a fire under the arbitration.

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« Reply #1496 on: February 05, 2016, 09:00:25 am »
I don't know if this is possible, but I'd love to see MASN placed in receivership and enjoin the receiver from allowing either team to be paid while the dispute is ongoing.  That would give Angelos an incentive to bargain instead of stall and light a fire under the arbitration.

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« Reply #1497 on: February 05, 2016, 09:03:46 am »
I don't know if this is possible, but I'd love to see MASN placed in receivership and enjoin the receiver from allowing either team to be paid while the dispute is ongoing.  That would give Angelos an incentive to bargain instead of stall and light a fire under the arbitration.

I'd like to see it get to the point where the interest (multiple years at this point) on the judgment is enough to bankrupt MASN

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« Reply #1498 on: February 05, 2016, 10:22:55 am »
I think he slipped to the dark side during the Oreos days.   

I'm not going to fault Wood for that.

  33 years without a team and he's a baseball man.  When my son came of age (baseball wise) I talked often about the Washington Senators and he had no idea what I was talking about and didn't care.  He became an Oriole fan. What was I supposed to do, tell him he couldn't root for the Orioles, rather, he had to wait for a Washington team?  In fact, I have to admit, for a short period of time I rooted for them, mostly for my son's sake (a VERY short period of time, then I came to my senses).   When the Nats came into existence, for one season (2005) he rooted for both teams, and after that (2006 and beyond) he's strictly a Nats fan and hates the Os as much as I do.

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« Reply #1499 on: February 05, 2016, 10:25:02 am »
I'm not going to fault Wood for that.

  33 years without a team and he's a baseball man.  When my son came of age (baseball wise) I talked often about the Washington Senators and he had no idea what I was talking about and didn't care.  He became an Oriole fan. What was I supposed to do, tell him he couldn't root for the Orioles, rather, he had to wait for a Washington team?  In fact, I have to admit, for a short period of time I rooted for them, mostly for my son's sake (a VERY short period of time, then I came to my senses).   When the Nats came into existence, for one season (2005) he rooted for both teams, and after that (2006 and beyond) he's strictly a Nats fan and hates the Os as much as I do.

That's not a bad thing for Wood.    I understand.    Hell, I went to Oreos games and pulled for them  ...   until Albert Belle.   I had been losing interest in them but Belle was the end.