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Offline MarquisDeSade

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Re: Fielder.
« Reply #2800 on: January 14, 2012, 07:22:55 pm »
But they have the mega-TV contract. :stir:

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Re: Fielder.
« Reply #2801 on: January 14, 2012, 07:25:35 pm »
Why would anyone who's already a star in their own right want to play next to a cocky kid who's never heard anything but how great he is?

Precisely what I thought when that idiocy was posted.

Now repeat this with "Nationals" in place of "Texas", but leave off the second sentence.

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Offline natsfan4evr

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Re: Fielder.
« Reply #2802 on: January 14, 2012, 07:25:58 pm »
If the Nats offer any more than 7 years, I'll be ticked off. I will not be mad if they lose him to a 8+ year deal, because that's just too much of a risk to take.

The Marlins again? They can't offer him a no-trade because they refused to give one to Reyes and Buerhle, so we have a huge advantage in that department.

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« Reply #2803 on: January 14, 2012, 07:27:01 pm »
They can't offer him a no-trade because they refused to give one to Reyes and Buerhle, so we have a huge advantage in that department.

I think you mean disadvantage. 

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Re: Fielder.
« Reply #2804 on: January 14, 2012, 07:28:23 pm »
When it comes to not landing Fielder, we have a huge advantage.

Offline natsfan4evr

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Re: Fielder.
« Reply #2805 on: January 14, 2012, 07:29:22 pm »
I think you mean disadvantage. 

No, players want no-trade clauses, not teams. Players like to know that they will be with one team for a long time so that they won't have to constantly relocate their families.

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Re: Fielder.
« Reply #2806 on: January 14, 2012, 07:29:26 pm »
Sign Prince.

Offline JMW IV

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Re: Fielder.
« Reply #2807 on: January 14, 2012, 07:31:03 pm »
I am sorry, but what is the huge major difference between 7 years and 8 years?

Offline MarquisDeSade

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Re: Fielder.
« Reply #2808 on: January 14, 2012, 07:31:15 pm »
No, players want no-trade clauses, not teams. Players like to know that they will be with one team for a long time so that they won't have to constantly relocate their families.

When you make over $50m you don't worry about that though.

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« Reply #2809 on: January 14, 2012, 07:31:46 pm »
I am sorry, but what is the huge major difference between 7 years and 8 years?

IMO, nothing. I guess one year less is better since we won't have to be "stuck" with him if he goes downhill greatly.

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Re: Fielder.
« Reply #2810 on: January 14, 2012, 07:33:50 pm »
I am sorry, but what is the huge major difference between 7 years and 8 years?

20+ million dollars for another year of someone who will almost certainly be a diminished player at that point.
I mean I know there's no salary cap but that is still a ton of money.

Offline MarquisDeSade

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Re: Fielder.
« Reply #2811 on: January 14, 2012, 07:35:10 pm »
If you plan to win and get fannies in the seat that's the price of doing business.

Offline natsfan4evr

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Re: Fielder.
« Reply #2812 on: January 14, 2012, 07:35:18 pm »
I am sorry, but what is the huge major difference between 7 years and 8 years?
If you believe he has 5 good years left, you only have to stick with him for 2 extra years not 3. I know he is still young, but with his body type, he is going to most likely regress in his early 30's.

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« Reply #2813 on: January 14, 2012, 07:37:40 pm »
Yeah, 8 years is a ton and I doubt anyone else is offering more than 6 years at the MOST.

If the 6th year doesn't get the deal done, there's no way the 7th wouldn't.

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Re: Fielder.
« Reply #2814 on: January 14, 2012, 07:42:10 pm »
Yeah, 8 years is a ton and I doubt anyone else is offering more than 6 years at the MOST.

If the 6th year doesn't get the deal done, there's no way the 7th wouldn't.

Agreed, you have to say no eventually. The Nats are not at the stage anymore where they need to significantly outbid the competition.

Offline Tyler Durden

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« Reply #2815 on: January 14, 2012, 07:42:11 pm »
Why be like that about it?  It's an obviously terrible comparison, that's all.  Nobody's saying any this.

Coming back to answer this - what about Chris Paul and Blake Griffin as an established star wanting to play with a talented but spoiled kid?  On the Clippers, no less. 

But regardless, there are reasons beyond Bryce Harper for Prince to want to play here.  Plenty of baseball people, even in the national media, point to the Nats as a team on the rise and a contender for the post season in 12 and 13. 

The Rangers sucked for 8 seasons from 2000-2007.  The Nats haven't even existed for 8 seasons. 

Offline cmdterps44

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« Reply #2816 on: January 14, 2012, 07:43:24 pm »
Coming back to answer this - what about Chris Paul and Blake Griffin as an established star wanting to play with a talented but spoiled kid?  On the Clippers, no less. 

Who's the spoiled one in this?


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Re: Fielder.
« Reply #2817 on: January 14, 2012, 07:44:32 pm »
Coming back to answer this - what about Chris Paul and Blake Griffin as an established star wanting to play with a talented but spoiled kid?  On the Clippers, no less.

I don't know basketball so someone else will have to address this. 

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But regardless, there are reasons beyond Bryce Harper for Prince to want to play here.  Plenty of baseball people, even in the national media, point to the Nats as a team on the rise and a contender for the post season in 12 and 13. 

The Rangers sucked for 8 seasons from 2000-2007.  The Nats haven't even existed for 8 seasons. 

The Rangers are at least as much of a contender as the Nats and have already been to the series twice, so I'm not sure how this is any more than a draw at best.  As for who sucked when, the Nats lucked into back-to-back generational talents.  Luck being the operative word.  It's no reflection on their skill as an organization.

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Re: Fielder.
« Reply #2818 on: January 14, 2012, 07:44:49 pm »
20+ million dollars for another year of someone who will almost certainly be a diminished player at that point.
I mean I know there's no salary cap but that is still a ton of money.

That's the market rate and it's not likely to drop in the old man's lifetime, it's the price of doing business in MLB.  Assuming of course that you are planning on competing for a title and not just banking the revenue sharing money.

Offline Tyler Durden

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Re: Fielder.
« Reply #2819 on: January 14, 2012, 07:45:06 pm »
I am sorry, but what is the huge major difference between 7 years and 8 years?

20+ million dollars is not chump change.  It could mean the difference between making some roster moves to improve the team in 2017 or having a 36 year old Prince Fielder for one more year.

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« Reply #2820 on: January 14, 2012, 07:46:40 pm »
20+ million dollars is not chump change.  It could mean the difference between making some roster moves to improve the team in 2017 or having a 36 year old Prince Fielder for one more year.

:rofl: :lmao:

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Re: Fielder.
« Reply #2821 on: January 14, 2012, 07:46:46 pm »
Coming back to answer this - what about Chris Paul and Blake Griffin as an established star wanting to play with a talented but spoiled kid?  On the Clippers, no less. 

 

Paul wanted to play for the Lakers with Bryant but the NBA stepped in and nixed the trade. He actually just wanted to get the freak out of NO. He wasn't a FA either. Somebody take TD's shovel away from him so he stops digging the hole deeper.  :lmao:


Offline MarquisDeSade

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Re: Fielder.
« Reply #2822 on: January 14, 2012, 07:47:34 pm »
Coming back to answer this - what about Chris Paul and Blake Griffin as an established star wanting to play with a talented but spoiled kid?  On the Clippers, no less. 

Blake Griffin has played a full season in the NBA, Bryce Harper hasn't struck out in MLB yet. 

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Re: Fielder.
« Reply #2823 on: January 14, 2012, 07:48:06 pm »
But they have the mega-TV contract. :stir:

No doubt. Their ownership group has no problem with spending to build a winner. Oh well, I guess I'm converting to a Rangers fan then.

Offline Tyler Durden

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Re: Fielder.
« Reply #2824 on: January 14, 2012, 07:49:11 pm »
Why is that funny?  I honestly don't get it.  The budget is what it is.  Even if everyone thinks it's too low.  If, given the low budget, Prince prevents you from doing things to improve the team, it's not worth it.  Why is that funny?  Just post LAC LAC 500 times won't change that.